| IVOD_ID |
166474 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/166474 |
| 日期 |
2025-12-17 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-4-20-13 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第4會期財政委員會第13次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
4 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
13 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
20 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
財政委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第4會期財政委員會第13次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-12-17T10:43:29+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-12-17T10:54:54+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:11:25 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/a6d7659fd659acd04e1d158c7d09755aa3419a5287f8f915fbddbc901a86fecfa11b46a314bfa5925ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
李坤城 |
| 委員發言時間 |
10:43:29 - 10:54:54 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-12-17T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第4會期財政委員會第13次全體委員會議（事由：審查「海關進口稅則」5案：
本院委員徐富癸等17人、委員黃健豪等22人、委員徐富癸等16人、委員陳菁徽等16人、委員林思銘等16人分別擬具「海關進口稅則部分稅則修正草案」等5案。【後1案須經各黨團簽署不復議同意書】） |
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謝謝主席我們請莊部長請莊部長委員好部長好今天我看委員有提案那我看你們的說明應該也是同意就是要調降麥芽還有啤酒花進口關稅應該是到零嘛立委提案是到零嘛對不對是的所以你們原則上是同意嗎 |
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是這樣的一個方向因為關稅雖然減少了但是呢你的這個營酒稅啦營業稅營所稅都增加嘛算了一下反而多了這個預估多了9500多萬是不是因為我們希望這樣子可以降低成本讓我們的國產的啤酒可以提高競爭力而且能夠擴大市場好那如果有降低成本的話那啤酒可以再那個便宜一點嗎 |
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部分可能就要看它在裡面佔的成本裡面的比例大概是佔它們裡面的成本是多少大概不到1%多而已比例不是很高因為它還有其他的大概比例是多少因為如果關稅調降消費者也覺得說那是不是啤酒有機會再調降售價 |
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这个部分可能因为占的比例并不是很高占成本的1%大概占成本的1.73%那就是由各个业者他们去做处理我们也从今年的7月3号临时课征反请销税也生效了我看了一下数字中国啤酒市占率较6月减少了3.2% |
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然后国产啤酒市占率有提高了增加4.38%所以客销反起销税看起来对于提升国产啤酒市占率是有提升的是有增加的然后我看了一下你们的数字以6月份做基准 |
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8月到11月的平均進口量從中國大陸進酒皮口這個進口量大概是424萬公升也減少了85.6%減少了85%左右6月份是2944萬然後到了8月到11月平均只有424萬所以可見我們這是有效的 對不對 |
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是的 謝謝委員的整理這樣非常清楚的順序所以這個對於國產啤酒來講是給予他們支持不然對於中國大陸這些低價的啤酒做傾銷而且有很多都是包裝也不實我覺得這個是 |
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五年返請銷稅的一個實施期間效果應該會再增加可能這段時間有一些季節性的因素但長期來看我認為還是會下降再請教一下部長賴總統有說過他拜託工商業要幫員工加薪因為他說加薪會促進消費是一個良性的循環台灣經濟會更好 |
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那我請教一下因為現在也12月了那我不曉得說我們的國營跟我們的公股銀行明年有加薪的機會嗎 |
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这个部分当然会有比如犯公股的他们会去做评估然后公股事业的部分他们也会评估那也跟委员报告我们的国营的银行它的加薪已经跟我们公务员的加薪去脱钩了过往是我们公务员有调多少他们才跟着调那现在事实上是脱钩而是按他们的实际的业务的绩效那才可以鼓励同仁们在的脱钩啦就是说一般来讲公务员有加薪的话我们的国营银行一定会加薪嘛 |
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如果说明年公务员没有调薪水的话我们国银行的薪水会不会跟着调所以他们已经脱钩了也就是说公务员没有调所以我就问说到底明年的国银行跟饭公务银行会不会调薪 |
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这个可能我们目前来说看各银行他们自己就是泛公股他们会有他们的一套机制那比如说台银主营他们也会把他们的调薪输入银行这三家银行内部会去先做评估然后会报财政部那有没有机会调薪啊 |
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12月了 如果要不要調薪也是這一個月的事情有沒有報上來目前對於明年的調薪還沒有我說那個三家國營銀行我說目前還沒有也還沒有報上來沒有報上來大概是沒有機會了所以也沒有報了等整年執行完成那已經12月中了 |
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要整年執行完成到明年會他們會把整個績效的情況報財政部以後那部長覺得應不應該再挑釁因為總統有說這個企業幫員工挑釁是一個良性的循環可以促進經濟消費那部長的態度咧 |
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對於我們當然鼓勵我們的企業能對員工加薪讓大家能夠分享經濟成長的一個果實因此在中小企業發展條例裡面我是說除了企業我今天問的是我們的公股銀行那當然我們是支持財政部理事長是支持公股銀行今年的績效好不好 |
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一年的績效應該不錯應該不錯所以應該是有機會調薪大部分的銀行都比去年有所成長所以如果按照這樣講有績效的話員工應該是要調薪才對我們當然有一套機制根據機制來走最晚哪時候要報上來通常都是幾月吧 |
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范工股他的條型有他公司的機制就不需要報到財政部那其他三家國營呢就台土輸嘛三家台營、土營跟輸營的話會報大概應該都會到一年的中間才會報啦對一年中間因為他們要把績效整個做匯報明年哪個時候明年大概都幾月我們大概都是幾月 |
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明年2月就過年了跟委員報告純國營是由人事處來主辦不是國庫署我是說明年2月就過年了那現在要不要調薪甚至有沒有年終獎金都還不知道明年2月大概應該不至於不會在2月之前報那年終獎金呢現在我們的這個三家國營都還是最高績效還是4.4個月就對了 |
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4.4那其他公股銀行我看這個去年的今年的年終獎金有最高兆豐應該是最高啦有到達8個月然後最低也有4.6個月都比這一個三家國營的4.4個月還高嘛對不對是對啊那我們講啦就是說這個國營其實你要給他鼓勵 |
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那重賞之下也有勇夫國營的績效如果也不錯的話其實他的績效獎金就是說年終獎金就不能永遠只停留在4.4個月我們也曾經報院建議能夠調高至少調高4.6個月以上吧至少你跟其他公股銀行要一樣 |
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那因為涉及到整個國營事業不是只有我們的金融業還有其他的國營事業那其他國營事業歸其他國營事業因為現在財政部你能管就是三家國營我知道謝謝委員能夠幫我們的國營銀行能夠爭取這樣的那因為涉及到人總那邊整體的一個考量 |
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所以那你支不支持那我们当然支持我们财政部也报寒到行政院去有报到行政院去了那目前人总还跟相关的其他的部会机关还在作业因为我看一下我们三家国营是真的蛮可怜的它也没有伙食费 |
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然後年終獎金最高就4.4個月然後也沒有員工的酬勞然後員工福利信託也沒有那你跟其他的這一個我們不要跟民營比就是飯工股銀行比那一樣國營也不好考那考進來之後發現說其他的飯工股銀行的福利待遇 |
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比這個國營還要好那以前考進去台銀是很不容易的對啊 考進去台銀也是一種榮譽那現在我們又希望說台銀能夠做龍頭那可是他的這一個不管他的績效 他的年終或是他的一些待遇等等都比其他泛公共銀行低我覺得這樣對他們來講也不公平 |
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我想謝謝委員對我們公股對於我們國營銀行的待遇的一個對那這個部分其實我們也財政部也都包含到就去做建議那4.4個月其實要突破的話因為是之前是立法院的做的決議所以我們也希望能夠有所突破那報上去以後目前人事總處那邊在做整體的一個建議那你們報這報多少 |
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我们希望能够4.6个月4.6个月对 恢复到以前的4.6个月那伙食费员工酬劳福利信托这个有吗我们都有这些案子都在我们承报的承报建议事项里面那麻烦把那个承报资料也给我一份好不好好的 没问题好 那最后一点时间问一下这个新清安市到明年的7月就入了日那我现在看媒体都在报道说我们还有新清安2.0要接续的这一个新清安开始是不是 |
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還說我們的四大支柱裡面包含年限40年寬限期5年額度1000萬都不會改變然後只有在貸款的年齡年收入是不是要排付貸款年齡因為現在沒有限制你六七十歲一樣可以去申請新清安現在也沒有排付所以新清安2.0接續下去是不是如媒體所報的這三個條件都不變除了這個貸款年齡跟年收入會做考量 |
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619.59 |
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有关新青安后面到七月届满以后后续的一些相关的一些措施要不要做调整那目前财政部会邀同相关的主管机关大家一起来讨论那表示就是说新青安七月落日之后还是会有继续有这个给年轻人的这个买房子的优惠的利率的贷款就对了 |
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619.93 |
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644.012 |
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这个部分都在讨论的范围内我们也会听取各界的意见那至于没有那部长的意思就是说我只问说会不会延续下去是不是还有类似这种新千二点年的计划那当然有一些里面的一些条件限制资格可能还要再做讨论是我想委员您提的这些都是我们未来纳入考量的时候都一并来研议的事情因为这个是你们次长讲的 |
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645.474 |
| transcript.whisperx[29].end |
656.973 |
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沒有啊 那是公股營高層認為啊公股營高層不是我們市長不是阮市長他有講嗎他就說這個新清安結束之後會有新清安2.0嗎 |
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658.359 |
| transcript.whisperx[30].end |
681.488 |
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不是啦 我覺得還是跟委員說明所以這個政策會延續下去就對了我們後續會彙整相關的意見以及各界的一些反應我們整體來考量對 那我是說這個政策就是讓年輕人買房有優惠這個政策會再延續下去就對了但是裡面的一些資格條件什麼你會再做討論至於什麼優惠或什麼我們都會聽取大家的一些意見好 謝謝謝謝委員 謝謝好 謝謝李坤城委員 |