| IVOD_ID |
166457 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/166457 |
| 日期 |
2025-12-17 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-4-20-13 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第4會期財政委員會第13次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
4 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
13 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
20 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
財政委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第4會期財政委員會第13次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-12-17T09:41:20+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-12-17T09:53:52+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:12:32 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/a6d7659fd659acd01755da904e53bda4a3419a5287f8f915704993c5309c567d5195ddf4f073bf875ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
賴士葆 |
| 委員發言時間 |
09:41:20 - 09:53:52 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-12-17T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第4會期財政委員會第13次全體委員會議（事由：審查「海關進口稅則」5案：
本院委員徐富癸等17人、委員黃健豪等22人、委員徐富癸等16人、委員陳菁徽等16人、委員林思銘等16人分別擬具「海關進口稅則部分稅則修正草案」等5案。【後1案須經各黨團簽署不復議同意書】） |
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謝謝主席 一起各位先進有請財政部的莊部長好 請莊部長是 委員好部長行政院長卓榮泰在開會說開記者會不附屬啊你就在旁邊啦這個不附屬是不是你在旁邊慫恿他不附屬啊 |
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跟委員報告在11月14號三讀通過的這個財化法的再修正案我們必須要記憶因為這樣的事件通過了以後會要中央舉債2646億本來就舉債2000多啦2000多就超過債限的部分這是我們財政部的立場一定要跟長官要說明我跟你講喔你不必這個你也沒有這個權利你也不敢跟他說不啦這個東西啊 |
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中華民國總統用簡賴清德總統說行政院卓院長表明本次修正侵害行政權違憲重大且明顯 |
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怎麼會賴清德見大法官呢卓榮泰怎麼見大法官呢違不違憲是憲法法庭來定的不是卓榮泰定的也不是你莊卓穎定的這個11141114通過立法院的版本你們行政院後來的版本為什麼1114不拿來討論呢清楚來看所以現在只能夠我想你沒辦法回答我不要你回答我只是要告訴你 |
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告訴全國的我們的這個難民了立法院三讀通過的法案行政院長沒有權利不附屬他附屬是義務他們喜歡舉三十四年前的郝柏村不附屬 那是不附屬人事案李登輝前總統要提名蔣仲林為一級上將郝柏村認為資歷不夠 NO |
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只有這樣子中華民國憲法在台灣實施幾十年只有那麼一次針對人事 針對預算陳水扁當總統八年也是少數執政一個案子都沒有提過這個不復 |
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沒有所以行政院長是他的義務不是權利憲法第3條講得非常清楚他可以提復議案復印不過他就要接受所以卓榮泰明明就是迴憲亂政違憲的做法不要忘了立法院通過的法律不管你喜不喜歡你就要去實施不管你喜不喜歡所以你過程當中要跟立委要討論 |
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你不能夠無法補填目前的做法就是無法補填選擇性的你說什麼舉債多少舉債多少就很簡單啦你中央少做一點事情就可以了給地方做啊有什麼問題呢根本一點問題也沒有所以舉債多少是你隨便講講隨便講講我就問你這不是隨便講講跟你講是否違憲還是要 |
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你沒有資格講違憲的問題啦憲法大法庭來講違憲哪有資格講總統派也沒有資格講賴清德也沒有資格講更何況你莊崔瑜哪裡有資格講違不違憲 對不對不要把自己以為大頭病啊自己多大啊部長多大 沒有很大喔 |
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你們不要無法無天 目前就是無法無天 到底的獨裁到底獨裁國家 選擇性 喔 通過了 我高興了 接受 不高興了 不要不屬哪裡有這樣的民主國家 全世界 你看哪一個民主國家 你看川普多麼的強勢啊 國會 |
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不給預算通過整個就停擺啊整個政府機關就停擺啊我們的預算法裡面還客氣讓你舊的錢可以用如果我們跟美國一樣停擺啊這個就是民主國家啊人家川普不喜歡要這個預算嗎對不對 這民主國家就是依法行政依法行政 依法行政我們通過了法律 |
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你再這麼不喜歡你就是要做做了有什麼後果政治人物負責任以後選民不要選他以後負政治責任了這個才是民主國家來我們來看你就告訴我你現在115年編的統籌分配稅款台灣網是不是根據三月份通過的對不對對嘛那增加多少增加多少比去年增加多少比114年增加4198億 |
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就是中央統籌分配稅款規模到8,874億可是你減少了一般補助款呢你減少了計畫補助款呢一般性補助款維持2,501億那計畫性補助款變一點點而已啊 對不對你的標是這樣子啊 所以這個要三個一起看啦三個一起看請問你增加多少就統籌加一般加計畫全部增加多少 |
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呃 全部三項加起來是一兆一千六百八的三億增加多少了 增加多少比一百一四年增加一千五百五十二億增加一千五啦不是你講的四千多啦三個全部加起來我是說中央 您剛剛問的是中央統籌分配稅款所以我就中央統籌分配稅款來說明所以三個要一起看統籌加一般加計畫增加一千五百多億沒有你講的多偉大啦 四千多億啦來 第二個 第二個 因為我時間有限 第二個 |
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你們講了喔對外講了說今年稅收要比去年減少500億有這個意思嗎 |
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不是比去年減少是比這個預算數減少跟預算數相比那預算數今年115年114年編列的比去年的實增數增加917億這個標題講的實在是聳動啦就為了不要再發普發現金嘛大家都了解你這裡面其實有一個項目剛才有提到了銀索稅的佔繳款 |
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那個是可以操作的啦所以根本不會有這個數字說減少比預算減少500億你們一樣可以讓他不會跟預算一樣才好看啊你減少不好看啊委員我們是就事實來做說明那500億這是一個預估的數字所以跟委員報告就是說我們目前來說因為大家都比如說大家都會問那跟今年的預算數達成率是怎麼樣 |
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那達成預算數是有挑戰的還是用事實來做說明?銀索稅這個部分沒有錯銀索稅當然依照法令他要繳納好 我要問你喔稅劇剩餘剩多少現在目前來說稅劇剩餘是主計總署在估算的多少 |
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目前應該是已經沒有 我就有所知是沒有沒有稅據勝利嗎所以1.25兆那個顧立雄提出來的來清台總統要的1.25兆他說是裁員稅據勝利加取債 |
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這個叫瞞天過海 事實上就是舉債啦全數舉債 一個人要舉債5.43億 特別條例是分年編列 分期編列所以他的裁員有兩項可以錄 當然是要看整體的對手狀況OECD宣布 虛擬貨幣申報框架CRF |
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12月4號 他們說2027年有48個國家要交換文件去年財政部說你要營業 到日時機你們有沒有營業 |
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有關這所謂的虛擬貨幣或者是穩定幣那它在目前來說在金管會有定有這個虛擬資產的服務法那目前應該還在行政院嘛那等到這個法制化確認了以後它相關的性質確認那賦稅當然是跟著它最後的定位的定性的性質來做賦稅的處理那目前我們相關的相關它的定性以後以目前的稅制來說是可以有相關的可以適用的 |
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所以你告訴我們一個方向可以嗎以後是要課所得稅還是課教育稅還是怎麼樣 |
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看它是什麼樣的一個定性以後所以資產什麼叫什麼定性定性它就是看它是不是屬於支付工具還是證券對 是支付工具還是證券性質然後再用相關的訊號先穩定幣就是支付工具啊支付工具有什麼可能我想這個有關那個資產服務法裡面相關通過以後我想這個性質會更確定是 |
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這個要 因為現在這個承接量也很大啦而且穩定 必須要開始各國在發行特別是美國變成是跨境在交易都是這一塊我覺得財政部你去年已經宣布你說要延役 到現在為止都沒有延役喔要趕快延役了 可以嗎 |
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不是 你開一下麥好不好是 我們有研議那我想研議的情形也可以我們把書面提送給委員行政院的那個那個警管會提的案子通過以後你多久可以出來 |
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行政院通過以後你多久可以出來可以怎樣可以出來可以出來已經課稅制度是不是對 應該很快三個月三個月可以吧我想在立法院行政院通過版本以後在立法院審議通過之前我們一定就會出來最後一個小問題也是很重要的問題你們的國稅局都缺人我要替你替你擔心 |
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北 國 南 高 熊 國 北部 北區國稅局 中區國稅局 南區國稅局欠人 欠到這樣 你看預算年額 缺額都這樣事實上 所以這個停卡年金就很有道理啊就大家不要報考高考的人越來越少到你們的分得也越來越少 你可以看到 |
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缺了大概將近6%而且是預算數 實際上你編的還沒這麼多請問你編線筆多少 編線筆編線筆 線有編制跟實際的這個部分我們可能要 手邊沒有這個資料可能回去要再查這樣子事實上我真的是給你高估啦 預算8400人事實上你的限制沒有這麼多啦 |
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沒有八千四百人的這個資料啊這個這個這個會後會後給我們好不好編制員通常超過預算員編制員會超過像我想這樣子好呃國稅局的同仁當然缺額是有出現那我們也努力的就改善工作環境確實 |
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稅務工作非常的繁雜也非常的繁複然後民眾當然也會希望稅務同仁在服務的時候能夠多加的說明跟更有耐心那當然同仁在工作上的辛苦我們都理解我們希望你也希望委員能夠多多支持我們聽出來就是聽你講話說你們缺人啊對啊大家來報考過 |
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委員能夠多支持我們預算我們預算能夠支持那同仁才能夠獲得相對比較好的工作環境現在報考人數也少了跟公教的年金一直砍也有關係所以停砍年金是一個正確的做法讓好的人能夠進來公務體系你看這個你這個不是今年這樣而已去年也這樣子每一年都缺額財政部來講的話很辛苦的國稅局也很辛苦的 |
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750.246 |
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工作非常辛苦 要請委員支持好 謝謝賴時保委員 |