| IVOD_ID |
166421 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/166421 |
| 日期 |
2025-12-15 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-4-19-16 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第4會期經濟委員會第16次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
4 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
16 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
19 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
經濟委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第4會期經濟委員會第16次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-12-15T11:30:08+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-12-15T11:38:43+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:08:35 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/d486c5db5da759062a3d02134bd572c53d053df696e011f8b1905849ce668176b8d54088b54cead65ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
陳亭妃 |
| 委員發言時間 |
11:30:08 - 11:38:43 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-12-15T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第4會期經濟委員會第16次全體委員會議（事由：邀請農業部部長及環境部首長就「2027年全面禁止廚餘養豬」進行報告，並備質詢。） |
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請陳廷輝委員質詢謝謝主席我們請農業部部長跟環境部次長 |
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先 部長部長我想請教一下我們現在兩位因為我們現在全國廚藝的總產量依照113年的統計是77.2萬公噸然後家戶廚藝是50.5萬公噸事業廚藝是26.7萬公噸 |
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那我們把它飼料化處理的養豬處理的大約是48.3萬公噸那現在我們禁止之後那麼這些廚餘要跑到哪裡去 |
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我們現在要怎麼處理來 我們部長市長跟委員報告一下目前的 還沒有禁止處理羊豬之前大概有六成的處理其實是我們的羊豬業者在餵羊這樣的一個方式在處理所以也有大概有四成的部分是走我們的在利用設施去處理的 |
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市長現在我們就是已經要轉型到不要再用廚餘養豬我們不論是農業部現在在推的政策我們讓他能夠自行決定到底我要不要使用還是我要繼續使用我們現在讓他有一個day line自己去決定那麼勢必我們後面要面對的這些 |
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这些量我们要怎么办跟委员报告刚刚讲的是在禁止出营之前的情况没错我说我要问现在那10月23号开始因为发生了回头之温的案件之后 |
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已經禁止廚餘養豬 全國已經禁止廚餘養豬到目前為止所以這段時間大概會有百分之五十以上的廚餘是走進魂化或野脈用緊急應變的方式在處理但是我們希望最終還是要走在利用循環所以在未來的一年 你有沒有去看現在所有的廚餘 |
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你用緊急的畢竟它的量還是不夠是那所以量不夠我們現在農環境部沒有錯你要求你編列預算處理費去讓地方政府去處理但是就沒地方了 |
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你沒有地方那你怎麼去面對這個問題那今天農業部一直鼓勵大家不要使用尤其在Daylight的時間點叫你要轉型這個勢必要轉型這個不得不轉型我們現在禁用廚餘之後我覺得這就是要變成為了我們的安全問題可是好這一段時間所發生出來的量在之後所發出來的量你要怎麼辦 |
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坤委員報告 在未來的一年之內各縣市環保局會增加600噸的再利用的量以台南市為主 它要蓋一座160噸的生殖能源設施它可以解決我們台南產生的這樣的一個好 這多久 處理的部分多久 它需要三年的時間三年啊 對 是三年啊 這段時間怎麼辦它必須要透過民間的堆毀或者是黑水門的方式來做這樣的一個處理那有部分的量還繼續要靠混化爐 市長 沒搞 |
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沒搞你現在講的是你的目標值但是實質跟我們現在所遇到的問題是無法解決的所以我一直強調沒錯我們現在要蓋一個能夠處理未來台南的廚餘的這樣的一個量體三檔這三檔咧這三檔要怎麼辦 |
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市長你們有沒有想過這三年怎麼辦然後我們看到一大堆的廚餘招不攏好招不攏了你們說有我們請地方政府再處理可是地方政府他要拿到哪裡去你說你們現在先用掩埋的進入焚化爐可是量還是無法去負擔啊 |
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我們今天講的是一個實質的問題然後當我們農業部在鼓勵我們所有過去用廚餘養豬的一定都要轉型勢必一定要轉型我們也編了轉型飼料養豬那但是呢那如果我們今天進入到家戶及社區型的廚餘乾燥機的補助呢市長部長你們認為呢 |
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如果我們進入環境部然後來督導推動地方政府去辦理家戶及社區型尤其學校的廚餘怎麼辦學校廚餘我們自己可以鼓勵他們來做廚餘乾燥機啊由政府單位來做啊我們要不要編列經費要不要是不是可以往這個方向來做由各自 |
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各自減少減少那麼我們的量體就不會那麼大我們是不是可以把這個專案提出來跟委員報告一下如果地方有提出因地制宜源頭減量的方式其實我們都希望他們可以去推廣去推動可是推廣我們中央有預算來協助他們嗎你這樣學校我覺得從學校端你們要鼓勵教育部 |
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然後鼓勵學校端編列相關預算去作為他們學校營養午餐廚餘的一個處置對不對這叫源頭我們從公部門先做嘛我們公部門如果減少了我們的一個量體 |
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那是不是減少後端的一個處理那我們再從家戶家戶其實他的這個廚藥乾燥機的補助其實補助金額不高可是他必須要變成是一個運動也就是大家願意從我自己的源頭來處理好不要說家戶是不是給我社區性 |
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家戶可能這個小規模如果我們用社區型或是餐廳餐飲我們來鼓勵他來做廚餘乾燥機的補助給他然後鼓勵他們自己來做廚餘源頭的減量這樣是不是更好我們一定要分別從我們政府去蓋大量體的然後再從小規模的 |
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源頭解決市長你認為呢跟委員報告一下你有沒有提一個計畫從 |
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產生廚餘端來看這個產生廚餘就好像是產生垃圾一樣是啊他必須要互惠來處理這是一個使用者互惠的概念但是現在是因為遇到非洲豬瘟這個事件所以我們不得不趕快去做這些源頭管控所以我們補貼一點用專案補貼一點讓他們加入這樣的一個源頭管控處理垃圾的部分 |
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這個是一個很重要的點跟委員報告 我先講這樣的一個合理性補貼這件事情 容我們來研議但是我要說明的是 如果產生源自己把這樣的廚餘因為透過乾燥機 它會減量嘛 水分就會去掉了它要處理所付的費用 自然而然就省下來了這對他來講就是一個經濟誘因 |
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這個就是相輔相成我們用這個概念去推動也就是我們政府在這個關鍵時刻因為沒有人想到會發生台中非中豬瘟這件事情所以既然發生了我們現在也正式我們禁止用廚餘來餵豬那這個部分我們就應該要配套 |
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那這個配套如果可以相對性的補助一點他又減少了他自己事業廚餘的這個處理費那就是相輔相成這才有誘因啊好不好讓我們來研議了好不好 市長再拜託了謝謝 |