| IVOD_ID |
166416 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/166416 |
| 日期 |
2025-12-15 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-4-19-16 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第4會期經濟委員會第16次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
4 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
16 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
19 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
經濟委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第4會期經濟委員會第16次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-12-15T11:11:48+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-12-15T11:22:25+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:10:37 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/d486c5db5da7590625e9d72fcddfa7c23d053df696e011f8b1905849ce66817661cd8283283c7cb85ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
陳超明 |
| 委員發言時間 |
11:11:48 - 11:22:25 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-12-15T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第4會期經濟委員會第16次全體委員會議（事由：邀請農業部部長及環境部首長就「2027年全面禁止廚餘養豬」進行報告，並備質詢。） |
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首先有請我們農業部陳部長部長我們的奈瑞農委員很優秀 |
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但是預算還沒審他就煩惱農業部的預算會被刪但是我報告部長不要完全配合在還沒有審查預算以前你這條嘴不要張得很大要把實際的情形講出來農業部的預算關乎農民所有的立委都不敢亂刪是只要用在正確的方向我希望你自在一點剛剛一講你什麼答應都好我是聽到覺得 |
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我還要報告他 賴銳龍委員問的是說如果總預算沒有審 不是三樓沒有審的話 一些新興的計畫不能進行你一想說不會 不會審嘛現在就放口風 再製造矛盾 再製造分化我希望部長記得這個原則我都希望我原則是我們農業的預算農民的預算 所謂經濟委員會 我了解不管你執政黨 不管你國民黨 |
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大家都會替農民來全力發聲這一點你放心我很感謝所有經濟委員會不管哪一位政黨的委員都支持我們列預算你現在顏色越來越重來我再請教你第二個問題 |
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那個土製的養成要到宰的時候大概要幾個月你說土黑豬大概要15個月吧15個月 白豬幾個月白豬大概180天土黑豬的話大概一年180天 6個月 7個月 對 |
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所以剛剛李議員的委員在講現在陶瓷苗養黑枝的地方最多一家茶要半年那裡的飼料費用會成本很高所以我們接到所有的反應都覺得現在農業部給養黑枝跟土枝的話飼料非常非常的貴養枝裡面飼料是佔了一個非常重大的成本 |
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保證跟大方的啦 後來這個輔導兩三年 你們就發明新的一個技師出來把池以當為飼料 你們大有這個準備你們也有研究單位 其實可以好好研究 早就要有所準備了 好不好 |
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我們已經在規劃怎麼樣把廚藝變成飼料化的一個輔導團隊現在廚藝一年一天有2100公噸以前這裡的廚藝都是養黑豬佔了六成把它吃掉 |
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你現在在說的 尤其那個環境部裡面啊說你們將來要以文化的燃燒堆毀黑水盲生態等方式你們都不可以下去上課 |
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焚化爐燒 你燒得太多太久 焚化爐很快灰掉你堆灰會臭 民眾會反對你的黑水池收集把它焚化 那裡面我整個大家會怕你不要想得很天真 很美滿再來你說生殖的功能 |
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所以這一點不要空口說白話你一定要實際的經驗實際的把這個環境以人家怎麼做做出來很好都要去學習環境部長沒有請你起來你聽好其實這幾個方案在地方會反對很大 |
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我們了解不希望連放個說廚藝的垃圾桶放在哪裡都增值的很厲害給你設那麼多你沒在整個照規都不知道這點我希望你準備一下今天農業部也不要因你為死你曉得苗栗縣有一個養殖場叫做全盛養殖場 |
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它是在苗栗以北最大的養殖場它以前跟你們申請也通過了就是全省唯一共同增值中心你們也核准它了也審查通過了在審查的時候它裡面有規劃先辦事業這個劉董有問你們審查委員如果那個非洲裔 |
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資本發生的時候 可以不可以即時使用你們說可以但是一發生的時候 你們這幾天都動了它投資了一億多現在放在那裡 每天背債 利息在那一邊我為什麼要跟你說這個事情其實它現在經營得非常好它高溫殺菌的 它是用 |
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四葉廚藝專門去收四葉廚藝過來燒了以後而且它這個廚藝它自己來養它的白豬一般廚藝養黑豬它養白豬你現在把它動起來 |
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他生死未悟天天提心吊膽保證啊你們怎麼不去看他那一場他如果做得很成功而且非常順利而且可以消化廚藝你們這樣一件事發生要全部擋起來所以你們這些做官都沒有科學的辦法安裝去成功人有什麼人做得有成功的我們就依照這樣來推展你曉得這個事情嗎 |
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所以你說觀望他在別部養殖場最大 |
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大概有四五周我也跟你確實講給我長一點時間他工廠在通宵養殖場在通宵我從那邊經過的時候我嚇了一跳他的黃色蓋的像日本式害我要進去訪問當初還沒有熟我還打個猶豫我要不要進去到裡面非常乾淨你不要講觀望 |
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他用他曾子的廚藝來養他的白豬養得又大又肥又好啊你說大家觀啊 當然是觀望啊但是你們要實地去瞭解啊所以今天我為什麼特別提出來你這樣把它丟掉 你要賠償嗎我請求你們同意你們農業部也是當初鼓勵的喔 |
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我想在整個的一個共同政治中心本身後續我們會協助他把它轉型為廚餘的飼料化的一個工廠你廚餘飼料化他說液化飼油他還特別跟我提醒你們把規範制定出來他到日本去學習也取得日本的專利的授權技術在但是我現在要做肥料化他叫做液化飼油 |
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可以养殖的但是没有标准到时候你又不承认你这个养殖物的事情什么都动掉没什么事情你没想过平常去关心人家做这个事情到底好坏他的成果如何所以你跟我讲其他的养殖物都在观望他有五六场 |
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它是北部最大的它用它的東西在養殖所以它的競爭力特別強長得又好啊你如果不要用這個讓我去想 |
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所以保留都下鄉不要只往南部走有時候提供給你一些好的一個科技資訊讓你參考其實這個全順的部分我們也一直在關心就像您剛才說的我們未來輔導他轉型成為池巫瑜的一個飼料化工廠這些法令的部分我們也會完備你現在這樣說我不會相信一發生你沒有問他你這邊怎麼樣你們就擋掉 |
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那我成立一個專案小市你親自帶隊來下鄉考察養殖物那麼多這個方式可行的話你們就要去思考了你單只聽環境部講一個文化旅那要有多貴啊你燒廚藝要有多貴啊你還要設立一個堆肥堆肥會臭餒你要在山上去堆肥啊把它封起來 |
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沒有 你都不知道抗爭我厲害的 你知道我這樣吹公公的就贏實地了解最重要 實地體驗最重要 好不好你們要選市長人還有 時間到沒 好好那個苗栗的肉品市場 上一次你們的副部長有下去 |
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那我覺得第一個 弱品市場的載出裡面的你們要把它強化 弄得乾淨我們已經有規劃了 也麻煩部長再幫忙會你懂我講的嗎我了解 那個我們的市長以前啦 他沒有注意因為負責經營的人沒有注意這一塊苗栗都沒有申請到 |
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那時前瞻100億裡面別的縣市都拿到苗栗縣根本都沒有只撥了多少 做了多少我希望這一點你們能幫我們解決苗栗縣弱品市場的問題我們儘可能來協助啊好好 聽了這句話我就停止講話停止答詢 謝謝 |