| IVOD_ID |
166414 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/166414 |
| 日期 |
2025-12-15 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-4-19-16 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第4會期經濟委員會第16次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
4 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
16 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
19 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
經濟委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第4會期經濟委員會第16次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-12-15T11:01:29+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-12-15T11:11:41+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:10:12 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/d486c5db5da75906950a1848538dfbb53d053df696e011f8b1905849ce668176b63d252e14d10cbe5ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
賴瑞隆 |
| 委員發言時間 |
11:01:29 - 11:11:41 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-12-15T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第4會期經濟委員會第16次全體委員會議（事由：邀請農業部部長及環境部首長就「2027年全面禁止廚餘養豬」進行報告，並備質詢。） |
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好 謝謝召委 我先請那個沈次長我們再請沈次長 |
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市長好我先請教一下現在整個廚餘的去化的狀況那我們每日可以增加每日產生2115噸那當然本來進入到養豬這個部分有家戶跟事業那家戶593這個已經禁止了這個禁止那事業的部分我們有一些落日的部分那731噸的一日計算1噸到 |
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廚藝養豬但是現在也傳出了有一些不管是星運上廚藝上這個部分環境部怎麼來處理明年1月1號起有一年的時間是緩衝期這個部分的731噸的事業廚藝其實是可以繼續養豬的對但是現在有傳出了很多因為可能不管是價格的提升或者星運上面等等它變成了有面臨到的一些困難這個環境部怎麼來協助 |
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目前的情況是因為現在是全部禁止處於養豬的所以在這兩個禮拜之內到年底之前這段時間是最辛苦的各縣市環保局都在因應這個部分那目前是因為已經有一些養豬場他接受農業部的輔導轉型他就決定明年1月1號開始他不再 |
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吃廚餘了所以他也決定這個時候就不要再去收運了是因為這樣造成的原因那在明年1月1號開始繼續廚餘養豬的部分現在已經有270幾個廠提出申請要裝智慧監控 |
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那我们设定他应该就是要继续养的那这个部分他会继续服务这样的一个产生源所以明年的部分可能这个压力会减轻那我们现在地方这种主要因应都是在这15天之内那这15天的问题可以做解决吗跟委员报告这15天各县市都有不同的方式在处理现在我们就请各县市环保局必须要提供辖内可以协助清运的量能 |
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主要就是以及清除業者或者是現在有一些貨運行他的車輛也可以來市長我要問的是環境部可以協助所有各地的環保局把這件事情處理妥善處理完畢可以嗎沒有問題吧因為環境部有跟各縣市環保局每個禮拜都有兩次在協調所以這件事情在這兩禮拜內會把它圓滿處理都有在處理圓滿處理完畢嘛是希望好我不是希望是一定要啦不要讓這件事情變成另外一個風波 |
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那當然明年1月1號之後又會有另外一個新的那我希望這件事情讓環保署要展現出你們的跟地方政府溝通協調能力把這件事情處理得完善好不好好可以了那另外其他的部分其實不管是其他的養豬除以的養豬以外的有791 |
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791噸然後包括現在進養的這個1384甚至於有些如果他不走那一條方向的話那未來的這個從明年開始的1384噸一天1384噸甚至有可能比這個再更多啦那這樣的狀況以現在的我們的處理的量有沒有問題 |
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目前我們盤點各縣市所報上來的不管是政府部門或者是民間大概可以再利用的量大概是一千一百一千一百噸左右了對再利用一千一百噸是那其實2115是去年一整年的統計量但是在從10月23號到目前為止這段時間的除以實際 |
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實際產生量 這段時間因為禁止廚餘養豬嘛所以那個量其實是可以被參考的這個部分的平均量大概是1700多噸而已不到2100噸 所以是1700噸有略減 那略減我們估計他原因可能是 |
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鹽頭就減量了 因為現在不斷在呼籲大家能夠洗食 吃多少 煮多少 鹽頭減量另外有一部分的民眾是配合政府的清運政策希望他們鹽頭就把它瀝乾所以其實水分也有減少了一些在這種情形之下 真正需要處理的大概有284噸會走 |
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魂化或掩埋但是魂化或掩埋是一個過度的一個緊急應變的措施我們不希望它是一個永久性的所以我們還是希望能夠輔導再利用量能起來所以各地方政府目前有規劃在未來的一年緩衝期之內要做的就是增加再利用的量能大概有600多噸會上來 |
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所以我希望接下來這一段時間一方面持續在前端的部分鼓勵大家就減少這些的優先減量這個邀請我也希望環境部跟各個環保局都能夠更具體的一些做法更具體的做法給經濟委員會這邊那另外一方面我也希望在後端這個處理上面的能夠再找到更妥善的一些處理方式好不好 |
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這兩邊都要去同步進行台灣要成為一個更進步的國家同時間台灣也要讓我們的租資的產業能夠得到確保的時候這些都是應該要做的事情好不好我請環保署要加大力道來跟地方的環保局來合作完成這樣的一個工作好不好好 謝謝那再來我請教一下這個大概剛剛有提到的我現在是不是請教一下部長了好不好來 剩一點時間我請教部長次長先休息一下 |
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部長我們現在在中央其實我們有轉型了包括飼料的一些補助 包括大家那我先問一下如果依照現在的不管是從現在的立即來轉成飼料跟未來一年的時間之後轉用飼料的話這個總經費大家花多少經費18億左右那這經費的來源從哪裡來 |
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從行政院用那個災害應該是災害準備金所以這個經費目前沒有問題沒有問題災害準備金沒有問題那如果接下來的經費呢未來的經費會編列到政府的經費裡面嗎我想我們這個是屬於第三階段的我們經費已經報院然後院裡面大概初步上也同意用災害準備金或是用二倍金的方式來處理 |
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所以這個是明年度來運作嘛對那還會有後續需要的費用嗎後續的部分就會回到我們年度的這個租產業的韌性跟相關的升級的方案裡面所以那個會編入到整個公務預算裡面如果有需要增加的話我想我兩邊應該是互相會去支援這個經費因為如果明年這個計畫實行的順利的話那應該後面剩下的應該經費是不會太多了 |
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持續的那個租的整個續設的升級跟相關的這些設備的升級我們還是會另外有計劃去那我問一下如果現在我們的總預算此時沒有通過會不會影響到這一筆的會影響到明年度我們對租產業升級的方案的一個執行 |
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那對於現行的這個方案會受到影響嗎現行的方案我們是用今年的經費去做處理然後專案保留好 那明年度這個也注資的也很重要啦因為明年度的很多的我們要求他們要去做政府要補助他們甚至有些退場機制甚至有些扶調機制這個如果總預算只是沒有通過的話這個是新增的預算嘛那新增預算如果立法院沒有審查通過會不會產生影響 |
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一定會喔 包括剛才很多委員希望說我們中央加強力道給地方補助沒錢 什麼都不能做啦所以我們還是希望部長 這些總經費大概要多少錢明年度要做的這些對於豬吃豬場的這些改善我們明年度的話 我們編列了大概50點多億啦50億啦齁對 50億左右 4年的計畫那明年大概有15億 大概應該有15億左右是在豬產業那這是一個新興的計畫嘛 對不對 |
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這是延續性的嗎還是新新的他是沒有他是一個延續性的作為啦但是他在切割的時候是從114到117那我只問的是如果現在總預算遲遲無法審查會不會影響到明年這個15億的預算 |
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應該會啊會影響到沒有辦法來執行對有一部分的特別是在設置設備補助的部分是沒辦法執行的設置設備一定是新的嘛這一定是新的政策去補助的嘛如果沒有延續的政策我們還可以照著過去的走但是如果新的政策一定要得到立法院的同意才能夠動之嘛所以這個公務員上面不可能違法來執行嘛所以這個如果總預算沒有通過對於這個都會產生影響 |
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總預算沒通過不只是這個啦我們所有的農業的相關的那我再問一下好了明年度有新興的預算的部分總預算如果沒通過會造成的影響有大概多少經費會造成影響這個我可能還要再去了解一下初步就部長你的專業的了解啦你不可能都完全不了解到底哪些東西是重要的預算新興的預算應該是超過20億以上超過20億哪幾項比較重大的建設 |
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我覺得有非常多的像冷鏈冷鏈的計畫就是一個非常重要的還有一些 冷鏈對農民很重要特別是在治水的這些治水裡面的農水路的部分還有相關的這些剝地防災的部分那個是影響最大的 |
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所以治水包括農水路包括這個冷鏈那現在還有這個株枝的這個部分我希望農業部還是要持續對外界做說明好不好預算遲遲無法審查這不僅是立法院的這個懈怠不僅是立法院的失職同時間對於整個政府的運作會產生重大影響我認為各部會都要積極的對外界做說明 |
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會 我們會來準備一些資料好不好 你希望立法院盡速來審查讓整個很多重要對攸關人民攸關農民的一些新興的預算能夠盡速來通過這也是立法院的職責啦我希望盡速來通過好不好 部長就你們該講的要不斷讓人民知道那這樣子才能夠讓人民清楚也讓所得力我們知道不審預算這件事情對於國家的傷害跟對於政府跟對人民的傷害是很大的好不好好 謝謝部長 |