| IVOD_ID |
166328 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/166328 |
| 日期 |
2025-12-10 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-4-20-12 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第4會期財政委員會第12次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
4 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
12 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
20 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
財政委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第4會期財政委員會第12次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-12-10T12:19:05+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-12-10T12:26:16+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:07:11 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/a128e1119a2c25c0425f21c8a0ab50a09ecb9f93c172c5514f1120d908022d4db22339bbe58c964b5ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
張啓楷 |
| 委員發言時間 |
12:19:05 - 12:26:16 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-12-10T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第4會期財政委員會第12次全體委員會議（事由：一、審查「財政收支劃分法」7案：（僅詢答）
(一) 本院委員郭國文等17人、委員賴瑞隆等19人、委員賴瑞隆等17人分別擬具「財政收支劃分法部分條文修正草案」等3案。
(二) 本院委員陳玉珍等19人擬具「財政收支劃分法第八條條文修正草案」案。
(三) 本院委員邱議瑩等26人擬具「財政收支劃分法第十六條之一條文修正草案」案。
(四) 本院委員蔡易餘等17人擬具「財政收支劃分法第十六條之一及第三十條條文修正草案」案。
(五) 本院委員陳玉珍等24人擬具「財政收支劃分法第三十條條文修正草案」案。
二、審查「國家金融安定基金設置及管理條例」2案：（僅詢答）
(一)本院委員郭國文等18人擬具「國家金融安定基金設置及管理條例第四條條文修正草案」案。
(二)本院委員李坤城等18人擬具「國家金融安定基金設置及管理條例第四條及第五條條文修正草案」案。
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現在財經部長叫副主席長 請莊部長陳副主席長兩位好 我今天要替自己市民 叫黃明慧黃市長討一個功德這邊11月14號財化法為什麼要再次修正就是要撥正撥亂反正把被 |
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行政院亂砍地方的補助款要把這個亂撥成正的結果過了以後你們不依法行政違法亂紀還提了個復議案復議案提過來立法院投票都否決了結果現在總統在說什麼不執行把自己當土皇帝當土匪 |
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你去霸凌地方政府在全國砍了多少的地方補助款這裡面關鍵數叫做2646億2646億耶所以22個縣市一年用的總預算的規模大概一兆多一點點你砍得下手 砍2646億搶回去違法而且是用搶的將近四分之一耶加一是更是受災 嚴重的受災戶 |
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嘉義市砍掉69億這兩個關鍵數目是全國2646嘉義市就69億我今天討一個公道我問財政部長問副主席長你們憑什麼嘉義市要砍69億的地方補助款蛤 |
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委員我跟委員報告就是說我總數來看因為統籌分配稅這邊就是4165億的下放所以造成了這個貧富不均的現象更嚴重所以我們是調整我們是調整而不是刪減去調整所以讓他的差異變小你的名詞叫做調實際上就是砍 砍了69 |
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中央的錢來自於地方 來自於人民欸那不是你民進黨的錢欸 也不是你行政的我們繳了稅金上來 用三種方式回到地方一種統籌款 一種計劃型跟地方的補助款 三種對不對對 阿所以問我們在去年底 修了統籌款為了這個統籌款 爭取嘉義市這個建設增加了66億 |
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我特別跟委員報告就是說我們有特別拿300多億就是要保障三種錢不減少 |
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所以這個部分我們是有承諾會保證嘉義絕對這三種錢加在一起不少於一百一十四 黃美惠黃市長講得清清澈澈現在我告訴你你砍的是什麼錢我先問你第一個問題我們這三種就是統籌款跟地方補助款跟計劃金補助款你有什麼道理 |
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怎麼這樣面對嘉義市 面對環民委員會你為什麼統籌款 我辛辛苦苦我從去年21號當立委下來 進來你看 財政部你有沒有知道主席在那裡我執行這個統籌款的議題好幾次了對不對我當黨團的副總召 免事抄襲協商我是不是都逆增 |
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不只是各個縣市特別嘉義市連他們派副市長上來開供電會我都還爭取讓他們上來講話就在力爭因為嘉義市小而美它的錢就很少嘛我們力爭了多少經過這樣力爭 期改這樣力爭我們增加了好不容易增加66億這對嘉義市非常重要嘉義市的預算規模只有200億元在今年之前都只有180 190到今年度喔 |
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才超過兩百億 兩百零三 結果你賭六十九億我好不容易爭取到六十六 你砍了六十九你只要對得起嘉義市民嘉義絕對不會不會比一百一十四年度少三種錢加起來一定不減少你現在 你去現你現在算過來算過來 看過來 預算書你的預算書就八月送過來的預算書還有你們修的這個 |
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中央對直轄市跟各縣市的補助辦法你現在砍了這69啊就是說預算書上面總預算書你不要說謊好不好不是不是你現在總預算書上面跟預算書的資金就有29億了嘛而且金額我跟你講更要不得了你知道69億不是只有金額大喔項目是什麼 |
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窮不能窮小孩嘛苦不能哭小孩你砍的是家意事小孩子營養有差的錢學校教室的水電費還有黃油治水 清液的錢不是啦 那不是要砍啦那是要讓他用...你現在還在狡辯說要調整不是 我們保證不減少結果就減少嘛 對不對不是 只是還沒有 |
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那個還沒有要我們要均衡財政均衡那筆錢還沒分配出去分配出去以後加益絕對不會減少 |
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六個縣市統籌款都增加現在是我們這樣力爭的66億可以幫家醫師做太多事情了可是我剛才在強調200億規模的小而美的家醫師66億可以做很多事情結果你現在去砍69這太過分了啦砍了三分之一好那你現在今天要承諾第一個我現在為什麼叫財政部長來財政部長等一下你現在要提再提書面資料給張委員盡快我大概一分鐘做個結論啦我要一分鐘做個結論財政部現在說行政院有新版嘛對不對 |
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你新版如果回到舊的 還有昨天總裁自己講啦他一個人都可以解決所以我明確的要求這個砍得太離譜了 這69億不能砍啦而且他都是法定的義務支出喔很多都是延續 我剛才講的啊你叫黃龍治水清 你叫嘉義市不要清嗎 |
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營養午餐的錢 你要對不起小孩子嗎張委員 我們時間到了這個張委員他所不了解的地方再請副主席長提供資料給他因為有一些資訊是不清楚的來 謝謝等一下 財政部長問一下你的試算表 道歉沒拿出來嘉義市的試算表怎麼把69億補回來這個我第一次追 |
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好 謝謝我們張委員最嚴重的是不能砍這麼多而且都是一個聯繫性跟法定的資訊我們把詳細的資料確實的資料提供給張委員好 謝謝張委員接下來我們請顏寬恆委員顏寬恆委員顏寬恆委員不在場下一位我們請 |