| IVOD_ID |
166312 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/166312 |
| 日期 |
2025-12-10 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-4-15-15 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第4會期內政委員會第15次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
4 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
15 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
15 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
內政委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第4會期內政委員會第15次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-12-10T09:52:08+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-12-10T10:00:42+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:08:34 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/a128e1119a2c25c0f343fbddf681fd7f129e80178479e3604f1120d908022d4ddff46f77a105961a5ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
李柏毅 |
| 委員發言時間 |
09:52:08 - 10:00:42 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-12-10T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第4會期內政委員會第15次全體委員會議（事由：一、審查委員許智傑等38 人擬具「宗教基本法草案」案。
二、審查國民黨黨團擬具「宗教基本法草案」案。
三、審查委員葉元之等 18 人擬具「宗教基本法草案」案。） |
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謝謝有請劉部長有請劉部長李委員早 謝謝部長那個我來講一下曾經是你的選區現在是我的選區的左營萬年紀左營萬年紀在你擔任副市長的時候開始大力的去整合我想要聽一下副市長聽一下劉部長當初整合的現況他是 |
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在連池談判所有的廟宇然後由高雄市政府的民政局邀集這些廟宇一起來參與那我們把它做成一個萬年祭讓整個左營的廟宇文化特色結合觀光讓所有高雄市甚至外縣市的人來辦到今年已經十幾年了那今年度也是由原地廟來主辦 |
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這一個萬年祭就是把所有的這些廟宇有一個特色跟政府的跟政府的政策的走向慢慢走向這個萬年祭你不會看到大量的煙火跟鞭炮跟所有的廟宇的這個他們可能在遶境或者是他們可能要辦活動的時候傳統的印象會不太一樣這個就是高雄市政府當初劉部長你跟所有 |
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廟宇的這個共同用心推動今天的這個成果啦那所以今天當然跟今天的這個宗教基本法我覺得是息息相關因為當我們這些廟宇他分開辦活動的時候大家比什麼比熱鬧怎麼樣熱鬧放鞭炮放煙火怎麼樣來表達我對這個廟宇的這個支持 |
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我就是設立砲台我來放鞭炮那部長萬年紀已經這麼進步了齁那這個宗教的這個基本法如果下去的話那所有的這些我們其實地方政府跟這些廟宇都保持很良好的互動跟溝通啦如果要遶境的時候總是要跟警察局第一個先申請這些路線嘛那第二個警察局會勸導什麼會勸導說你們的煙火你們的鞭炮要怎麼放 |
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這個大家要取得一個共識那比如說共識如果晚上九點以後還是有這一些那麼熱鬧的活動的話那警察局當然必須要跟環保局必須要都全程出面監控如果萬一真的影響到人的時候必須要做一些協調必須要做一些溝通罰絕對不是我們現在主要的目的是讓這一個宗教活動可以跟社會可以共存可以讓社會也可以接受這個宗教基本法 |
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如果通過以後部長會不會抵觸到這些相關的規定 |
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如果現在的條文太籠統而且對於自由的定義是什麼有點像是說以宗教為名的話他所產生的各種各式各樣的這種禮俗活動等等這些如果侵犯到其他的包括教育勞動或者是環保等等的時候就變得不受控制那這個不是一個宗教基本法想要推動的基本的方向 |
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那那個李委員非常謝謝你就是說在左營的這個萬年祭的這個部分我們有考慮到包括文化的因為萬年不是只有左營還有鳳山所以有跨區域的還有是跟社會局譬如說我們要舉辦這些活動的時候你會請這些弱勢團體過來類似這樣子的方式那就表示說把我們宗教這種教化世人而且是照顧弱勢 |
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這樣子的一個基本的核心理念把它放到裡面去所以包括原地廟等各宮廟的負責人都覺得願意投入而且我知道他們花的這個金錢啊還比這個政府補貼的更多那這樣子的熱鬧的活動的話變得不是只有我們這個社區裡面應該出現的也變成是高雄市結合觀光 |
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非常有用的一個活動那我覺得這樣子相當好如果可以繼續推動會像剛剛有些委員提到譬如說像苗栗的這個這個超跑的模組的這個活動他就越來越多的這個國內外的觀光客會進去那這樣對廟來講也越來越輕啦所以我覺得如果有這樣個跨文化領域跨不同的領域然後他是遵守台灣的規範的話在台灣一定會受到相當多的歡迎 |
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對但是這個活動沒有牽涉到目前我們討論到的這些可能有這些宗教基本法的草案沒有都完全沒有那還是可以規劃的非常好有特色但是這個草案他主要要規劃他主要要可能會影響到的範圍有在根據部長就教大概宗教團體法或者是宗教法人法或者是宗教這個基本法就是來定義什麼叫 |
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宗教自由什麼叫宗教光是宗教的定義我覺得可能就會必須要花很多的時間跟精神來討論因為外界有很多目前我們把宗教跟勸募跟詐騙跟組織沒有辦法去分辨的這一些 |
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那會不會就跑進這個宗教基本法來受它的規範那會不會有相關的剛剛其他委員有質詢到的這些土地的問題因為這樣子有大量的國土可能因為這個宗教基本法而影響到可能未來的國土計劃法影響到水保法影響到建築法那會不會影響到國家公園法那會不會我剛剛我講的這個噪音管制法 |
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泡足煙火管制條例甚至消防法等等這些問題都會包含在這個宗教基本法裡面的宗教自由以及傳道自由以及傳播自由裡面我想這個是我們必須要很認真的去看每一個法條可能會造成的影響 |
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那所以現在內政部包含各縣市政府的民政單位對於宗教的土地財產財務等等尤其是財產財務等等是採低度管理嗎但是如果藉由這個法以後他會造成什麼樣的結果可能想像的結果部長第一個所有的內政部的宗教諮詢委員還是希望來審慎研議這個比例大概是怎樣九成以上 |
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九成以上的中華民國宗教諮詢委員希望宗教基本法沒有共識之前不要貿然推動應該是理由是這樣的那如果說有些委員說那你們內政部要去制定一個宗教基本法可是我們宗教基本法訂定下去的時候就會有我們剛剛所說的25種台灣的法律要把它納到裡面去那你納到裡面去的話呢就變成非常高度監管 |
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那既然是非常高度監管又並不符合我們憲法裡面保障這個宗教信仰的自由所以我們說在這個取捨之間是不是慢慢推進會比較好那有些戰刑條例的部分大家宗廟團體或宗教團體所碰到的困擾 |
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只要他是正向的在推廣宗教的那我們盡量來服務他像剛剛我有提到他是老廟可是碰到新的建築法規那中間一定會有一些緩衝的方式可以來處理那我們就盡量來服務就這樣謝謝所以我們內政部對宗教對這個看法還是採取高度自由但是要符合台灣信仰宗教高度自由宗教高度的自由但是還是要符合台灣目前 |
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的相關的這些法令包含土地是那包含兵役或者是包含環境等等的這些我們都還是要繼續兼顧是謝謝好謝謝委員好謝謝 |