| IVOD_ID |
166304 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/166304 |
| 日期 |
2025-12-10 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-4-20-12 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第4會期財政委員會第12次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
4 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
12 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
20 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
財政委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第4會期財政委員會第12次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-12-10T11:45:22+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-12-10T11:57:51+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:12:29 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/a128e1119a2c25c093ee447b74eb84ca9ecb9f93c172c55119f30473e88220b3adbe9fa3377f5b155ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
王世堅 |
| 委員發言時間 |
11:45:22 - 11:57:51 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-12-10T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第4會期財政委員會第12次全體委員會議（事由：一、審查「財政收支劃分法」7案：（僅詢答）
(一) 本院委員郭國文等17人、委員賴瑞隆等19人、委員賴瑞隆等17人分別擬具「財政收支劃分法部分條文修正草案」等3案。
(二) 本院委員陳玉珍等19人擬具「財政收支劃分法第八條條文修正草案」案。
(三) 本院委員邱議瑩等26人擬具「財政收支劃分法第十六條之一條文修正草案」案。
(四) 本院委員蔡易餘等17人擬具「財政收支劃分法第十六條之一及第三十條條文修正草案」案。
(五) 本院委員陳玉珍等24人擬具「財政收支劃分法第三十條條文修正草案」案。
二、審查「國家金融安定基金設置及管理條例」2案：（僅詢答）
(一)本院委員郭國文等18人擬具「國家金融安定基金設置及管理條例第四條條文修正草案」案。
(二)本院委員李坤城等18人擬具「國家金融安定基金設置及管理條例第四條及第五條條文修正草案」案。
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法務部廖參事 |
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部長我記得這一年來我大概跟你提了有三次就是說關於促參法應該納入強制仲裁這個規定讓公益最大化那麼我當時 |
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根據你的答覆其實你本身你蠻贊成的你並不反對因為我們看得到現在促參這個爭議頻頻那要解決這些爭議如果讓他們用一般訴訟的方式那會是曠日廢食損害公益 |
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所以我就提了說那是不是我們就強制仲裁來處理那當時你給我的答覆你跟我說其實你有問了最關鍵的就是法務部法務部他們反對他們說認為說如果把促參案件納入強制仲裁的話他說這是違憲 |
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說這個是我們強制政府機關訴訟變成好像說這個是違憲就對了所以今天法務部來了我就問一下法務部為什麼將強制仲裁納入就叫做違憲叫做強制政府機關訴訟為什麼 |
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因為這個議題我先前沒有參與過了就我所知的目前的仲裁法採取的是合一仲裁為原則但是仲裁法也有好 你把問題帶回去我告訴你 政府採購法 |
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就是有強制仲裁啊政府採購法第85條寫的這麼清楚如果你們法務部還說吐參案納入強制仲裁叫做違憲的話那請問啊政府採購法也違憲嗎就這個問題你待會去問 |
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好不好好謝謝你不能說你以後上台答覆拜託你也說一些比較古典的那表示哪有說你今天來開會啦四射的是財政部國發會我們會提到的所有的議題那你現在一問三不知你說是因為你沒有參與 |
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報告委員 我剛剛要說明的就是說我們的仲裁法的規定制度上就是原則上它是以合一仲裁 依仲裁法來進行但是仲裁法也有允許法律如果有特別規定的話是可以允許的 |
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政府的採購法這就規定的很清楚啊機關不同意自調解不成立者廠商提交仲裁機關不得拒絕這是不是強制仲裁就這麼簡單嘛條文寫這麼清楚剛剛的那一個答案是不是容我會後了解一下就是說到底那個背景是怎麼樣問題就是剛才講的這麼簡單你回去那你什麼多久可以給我答覆 |
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我們一個禮拜內可以給委員長然後你把當初答覆莊部長那拒絕這個案子到底源頭是誰你也告訴我好不好我覺得這是很莫名其妙那個莊部長你知道嗎這麼多年來我們有多少曠日廢食導致損害公益的這些促餐案 |
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我隨便唸幾句前年你們財政部有推要不然說如果有爭議那先用爭議調解但是前年推了到去年8月為止只有11件提出才4件有通過調解成立 |
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再來我們把時間更拉長的話從去年8月算起到今年8月去年8月到今年8月總共197件 |
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那解約的有1293億還在促進民間資金參與公共建設這樣子的大前提之下竟然這麼多的案子有爭議然後去年8月到今年8月提前解約的就215件1421億那麼 |
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其中有47件有464億是觀光遊樂休憩現在我們國內國旅這麼差你看嘛我們國內觀光遊樂休憩這樣子引進民間參與的案子多數是失敗的 |
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那難怪國旅那麼好的一些景點設備沒辦法更新地方老舊甚至有公共危險的地方都完全沒辦法你比方說這個屏東 遠在屏東的大鵬灣那麼好的構想計畫拖了十幾年還在那邊捧一年耐一年你看 |
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所以我認為啦 既然雙方不合啦有爭執啦 那就快速解決喔 因為訴訟法院案量實在太大啦那真的是曠日廢時 好不好所以我希望這件事情 我要求法務部他說一個禮拜答覆 那你也繼續追蹤他們好 謝謝委員 是 謝謝法務部那你請回 我請那個國發會 |
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國發會是經濟發展處專門委員國發會你們整個國發會在我看兩個字我形容天兵 |
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你們對外宣稱說促餐案大成長了到今年10月你們總共說169件2246億我放一個也是你們的表格你們的表格我怎麼加 |
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怎麼加 75加57 57加就怎麼加都沒有169件金額更是沒有你說的2246億那這就算了喔我看你們從107年到現在107年前5年 107到111年有 有成長 |
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518.414 |
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從1375億每一年83件有增加到一年139件2828億但是就從隔一年112年開始你們就衰退啦一路就下滑一路就下滑那這下滑不打緊 |
| transcript.whisperx[21].start |
519.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[21].end |
547.524 |
| transcript.whisperx[21].text |
我另外兩個字形容你們所有案子虛胖你們是促參法的案子你把其他法令的大眾運輸捷運法大眾捷運法你也納入都市更新條例獎勵的你們那些其他法令的你們通通納入所以結果看起來有那麼多案子結果叫做什麼叫做虛胖嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[22].start |
548.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[22].end |
568.162 |
| transcript.whisperx[22].text |
所以我希望你們認清事實認清說你們從過去到現在很多的案子根本就是拼拼湊湊拼拼湊湊我們政府要用促成法就是希望能夠引進能夠獎勵刺激民間的資金進來 |
| transcript.whisperx[23].start |
569.947 |
| transcript.whisperx[23].end |
594.845 |
| transcript.whisperx[23].text |
現在有個大問題啦部長知道啊所以部長有跟院長都有溝通過就是我們這個受險資金我們全國受險資金餘額到去年為底35兆裡面七成被這些受險業者拿去國外買海外的基金債券那有兩大風險一個戰爭一個匯率兩個風險我們都碰到啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[24].start |
599.076 |
| transcript.whisperx[24].end |
620.558 |
| transcript.whisperx[24].text |
所以我們的財政部在我們財委委員會嚴格要求監管之下他們就是要去趕快去誘導這些受險資金就是民間資金趕快回到我們國家來參與我們國家的公共建設這是好事啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[25].start |
622.754 |
| transcript.whisperx[25].end |
642.429 |
| transcript.whisperx[25].text |
結果你拖三拉四的你想想那麼多結果沒這麼多成績那你列了這些預算預算我們倒是不會再找你們什麼麻煩啦102年開始你們這些花了7億2千萬元那花過去就算了啦因為你們成績 |
| transcript.whisperx[26].start |
643.752 |
| transcript.whisperx[26].end |
665.129 |
| transcript.whisperx[26].text |
有消也有成長這個我沒話講今天你們又再度編了五億一千七百一十萬我希望你們好好把握這些錢這些資金就是用來讓你們好好的想方設法去誘導民間的資金參與國家的公共建設可不可以 |
| transcript.whisperx[27].start |
667.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[27].end |
697.078 |
| transcript.whisperx[27].text |
是那跟委員說明就是整個兆元投資國家這個發展方案這個計劃呢基本上就是要吸引這個保險業者來做這個相關的一個投資那這個部分的一個那個他的一個計算呢那在當初方案的設定呢就是包括這促倉案件跟採用其他相關法令來吸引民間投資達到吸引民間投資的一個案件通通都記錄所以才會這個在整個的一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[28].start |
697.958 |
| transcript.whisperx[28].end |
719.685 |
| transcript.whisperx[28].text |
金額或者案件的計算上面呢跟委員如果只單從素餐案件來計算上面數字會有所不同那至於在這個基礎建設認定的這個部分呢那這個目前的因為他的一個申請是個案申請所以是由業者他們是他們需求來提出申請那我們這邊都有列管來協助業者來做認定 |
| transcript.whisperx[29].start |
721.782 |
| transcript.whisperx[29].end |
746.162 |
| transcript.whisperx[29].text |
你們有很多定義你們自己把它條列寬鬆了很多定義都不是很清楚我希望你們回去加強我剛剛念的這幾個數字都完全確實正確你們回去看清楚好不好好 謝謝王委員接下來我們請黃珊珊委員黃珊珊委員黃珊珊委員不在場下一位我們請邱奕穎委員 |