| IVOD_ID |
166243 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/166243 |
| 日期 |
2025-12-08 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-4-23-10 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第4會期交通委員會第10次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
4 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
10 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
23 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
交通委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第4會期交通委員會第10次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-12-08T12:43:31+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-12-08T12:51:06+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:07:35 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/e238918248e277b38b092bd90c7ea5a3b5dd3a7969bdec96e205c0f991a2210e057babbb10d0fc445ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
賴士葆 |
| 委員發言時間 |
12:43:31 - 12:51:06 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-12-08T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第4會期交通委員會第10次全體委員會議（事由：審查一、委員羅智強等55人、二、台灣民眾黨黨團及三、委員翁曉玲等24人分別擬具「衛星廣播電視法部分條文修正草案」案、四、委員陳雪生等23人及五、委員傅崐萁等24人分別擬具「衛星廣播電視法第五條條文修正草案」案、六、委員葉元之等22人擬具「衛星廣播電視法第十一條條文修正草案」案、七、委員翁曉玲等16人擬具「衛星廣播電視法刪除第五十條條文草案」案、八、委員許智傑等27人及九、委員洪孟楷等22人分別擬具「衛星廣播電視法第六十四條條文修正草案」案。
【本次會議僅進行詢答】
【12月8日及10日二天一次會】） |
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那我們宣告一下交通委員會因為還有幾位委員那我們就讓他執行完畢所以我們這些相關官員大家辛苦謝謝主席 請各位先進有請我們的陳代理主委陳代理主委請 |
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廖委員午安你午安喔我就請教很簡單的問題很重要很簡單的問題今天我們主席啊拍這個題目非常好就是好幾個委員有提的這個這個廣電法衛星廣電法的修正案衛星廣電法的修正案那有人講說這些案子如果通過中天是不是可以復台是不是 |
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就目前的條文的話目前係數對關係條件符合的目前大概就是委員所提的就是如果我們今天的條文這個通過的話中間可以復台對不對這是一個另外一個是如果法院判決你們一路輸到底他也可以復台啊 |
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這個就地程序其實相關的電視台個案上的電視台他已經做過了在行政訴訟法116條第二項第三項都有規定那案官的那個案的那電視台他已經採取這個行動了只是法院都給他比較駁回的一些處理 |
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法院最好還沒有final啦我們看一下中天當初被關新聞台被關講四大原因什麼申訴太多啦內控的問題啦新聞自播受不當的干擾啦中天所提的意見不能夠具體的改善等等四大 你們發的新聞稿 四大理由其實這四大理由我敢說可以apply到現在綠美的每一家電視台他們沒有干預嗎 |
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我也不相信 顏色那麼的清楚 立場那麼的鮮明 怎麼沒有干預所以如果用這個角度來看 當時候做出中間新聞官台到底是一個政治判決 政治決定就是NCC變成扼殺新聞自由 言論自由的筷子手 |
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NCC自甘墮落變成東廠變這個樣子 你聽我講 先不要急因為大法官解釋689號也講得很清楚啊 新聞自由啊所以我們就委員提出來 |
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要換照除非有什麼條件 否則應該准以換照為原則這個立場你接受嗎 准以換照為原則 你接受嗎為了保障新聞自由我們建議說這要整體配套來看 那因為換照本身是會讓是要保證是要確保這個新聞頻道節目品質本於專業來 |
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來播送那如果說換到這邊鬆了這是結構性管制這邊鬆的話那其實結構管制那一邊其實要對應要相應的一些相應調整處理所以你還是要繼續嚴格喔這個你沒有這麼大的權力喔如果今天修法通過的話你沒這麼大權力喔你現在想要握住那個權力喔 |
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這個本來為了維護身份自由就是應該准你換照除非他犯了很大的錯誤我們委員有提案啊除非這個九次以上除非罰款累計罰款五百萬以上但是那個罰款都是要確定等於是確定之後等於法院確定之後這裡面大家可以告來告去的那我就請教你啊 |
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你們到現在為止啊 庭審啊庭審有的一次官司可能三次庭審 四次庭審 五次庭審你們26拜欸 你們一次拜啊各位報告 那是重複計算不同審級的一審二審那其實如果以中判來看的話 |
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案關電視台26件採取案目前是兩件海調輸送當中24件已經確定24件裡頭有7件NCC是敗訴另外17件裡頭是已經確定了11件NCC勝訴6件是那家電視台沒有提送其實論比例的話我們NCC目前敗訴的只有7件我請問你NCC你明年度編了多少預算要打罐師600多萬 |
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各位報告600多是包括其他電信領域的還有法律事務費包括要請專家協職的因為它是採編的太多還要給你錢來當筷子手各位報告我們也有還包括電信的來我現在問你就是說你剛剛講的是不是我要確定一下 |
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或者修法通過或者行政院最後不是律師法院法院最後判定讓中天可以復台這兩條路對吧 |
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那如果是這樣譬如說我們修法通過了請問可以直接復台嗎還是要經過你們委員會要經過委員會而且復台如果說黨團的版本的話要回到原來的平位這邊是有極大的困難度因為那是跟有線電視做商業協商那是商業機制是第三方人的利益 |
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這邊NCC不是一個行政機關說我要永電電視請你把原來的房客找回來把現在的房客請走這個不是這麼容易處理的所以也就是說用百萬文講中天新聞如果即便復台他不可能再52台這樣對吧難度很大 |
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你會講不可能嗎對 幾乎不可能幾乎不可能 換一個主委可能就可能了不是 因為他現在52台的你不可能 換別人就可能了因為52台的涵蓋率只有75% 還有25%52台現在收視率這麼低啊你有沒有看 華氏經營不好啊 |
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他是公廣集團會以公廣集團的使命為主所以他相關的製作上的取向他風格就很清楚嘛這個把中天新聞趕走由民進黨政府的手伸進來公廣集團伸進來就變這個樣子啊所以我要奉勸這個代理主委你這個 |
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我還是希望你能夠維持新聞自由能夠採取跟歐美先進國家一樣對於新聞台要低密度管理低密度管理原則要核准NC一直都擁護新聞自由 |
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哪裡有陳耀祥你們以前的主委筷子手一個是不是我們來看我們希望這個立法院能夠順利的修法通過讓中天可以復台我覺得中天復台的意義非常大就是代表我們新聞自由被殘害有撥亂反正的那麼一天我覺得這是有一定是意義的謝謝謝謝委員來謝謝賴世鮑委員 |