| IVOD_ID |
166239 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/166239 |
| 日期 |
2025-12-08 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-4-23-10 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第4會期交通委員會第10次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
4 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
10 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
23 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
交通委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第4會期交通委員會第10次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-12-08T12:05:55+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-12-08T12:14:24+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:08:29 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/e238918248e277b3d35c8db18dcba56bb5dd3a7969bdec96955b66d75a5d59689958b8a00feea6e15ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
張啓楷 |
| 委員發言時間 |
12:05:55 - 12:14:24 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-12-08T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第4會期交通委員會第10次全體委員會議（事由：審查一、委員羅智強等55人、二、台灣民眾黨黨團及三、委員翁曉玲等24人分別擬具「衛星廣播電視法部分條文修正草案」案、四、委員陳雪生等23人及五、委員傅崐萁等24人分別擬具「衛星廣播電視法第五條條文修正草案」案、六、委員葉元之等22人擬具「衛星廣播電視法第十一條條文修正草案」案、七、委員翁曉玲等16人擬具「衛星廣播電視法刪除第五十條條文草案」案、八、委員許智傑等27人及九、委員洪孟楷等22人分別擬具「衛星廣播電視法第六十四條條文修正草案」案。
【本次會議僅進行詢答】
【12月8日及10日二天一次會】） |
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來 請陳志偉來 陳代主委請文豪主委 那是法治社會啦是我剛剛聽你的答詢我要給你高度的肯定你至少沒有像那個違法亂紀的那個周鴻泰行政院長說立法院通過了三讀的條文不執行 |
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像中天可能赴台這個題目他等於要過三個我想他還有三關要過啦他有三關要過第一個當然就是今天這個修法對不對如果修法過了這是一個第二個過了以後還要行政院不願意做總統要不要公告第三個真的要做就是回到你剛剛講的要委員會開會嘛對不對NCJ委員會開會嘛要過這三關對不對不過實際上我們是一個法治社會就是叫不來就好了啦 |
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法治社會就照法來做啦因為老實講這本來就是個行政救濟的一個管道嘛對不對法院後來怎麼判過了以後立法院就修法就完全照法裡面來走好不好好OK不要又搞出一個到時候那個什麼行政院長又不依法執行這個事情好 今天談衛星廣播電視法修正這個是台灣民眾黨重中之重我早在去年的3月份就代表台灣民眾黨 |
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八位委員我們就提出了修正案我們有所謂的改革三件最重要就是要公開透明整個資訊的這個揭露它所謂三支箭有就是包括衛星的電視跟廣播它都是要公開發行的要公開發行公開發行以後就會出現第二支箭了所以它的股權資訊還有它的財務的資訊對外就會揭露為什麼要有這兩個非常重要的因為老實講現在很難過的是 |
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地視權 衛星電視跟廣播對國家發展影響是很大的可是現在某些電視台現在都變副業了變副業了他們肯定做了其他很多非常多的這個行業土地開發啦還有去買遊樂園的 |
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這是非常嚴重的這很畸形的發展在全世界的全世界民主國家很少這樣子所以我們會明確要求他必須要公開發行接受全民的監督讓他們不要再走後門讓他們善盡第四權的權利不要把第四權幫成復原去謀自己的福利這是前面兩支箭第三個也很重要就是這段時間引起非常多人過病了正媒變成一體了甚至是黨檢媒師變成一體了 |
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很多的這個電視台你在看什麼他就是完全依靠政府的採購案政府的補助而且是集中在某些在某幾家說明要明定只要是對政府這個採購還有補助跟廣告這個他收入這個來源要整個全部要揭露讓全民共同來監督提這三個那我現在很具體的來問這個內容這次裡面我們先針對一個房幣的問題 |
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這個新聞報導之前有報導過三立去經營入主 去經營了中佳集團 |
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結果以前的NCC的主委在這邊打他說依照現行法律沒辦法 沒辦法管因為他監過好幾層從母公司到子公司到孫公司弄到後來你根本就法律上沒辦法管所以這次我們在明文裡面再增加了第12條之一要求 |
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經營新聞跟財經頻道或者是自播新聞節目的衛星廣播電視事業你必須依照主管機關就是NCCNCC你指定的方式在每年的6月30號之前將前一年度的 |
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相關的這個資訊要放到指管機關指定的網站跟該事業的網站上面特別是要防避我剛提的那個事情三立層層投資去躲避這個監督我們要求徵列裡面的第七款只要是主要廣告收入來源負責人董事跟監察人經理人跟直接或者間接 |
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他持有已經發行有表決權股份的總數只要超過十分之一以上股東的這個投資事業的他全部就要公開披露這是一個黃幣喔 解決問題啊這位有贊成整列這個條文嗎 |
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這個基本原則我們是理解委員的立場跟委員補充報告委員所舉的那個例子那個個案其實我們已經處理了也罰這個MSO1440萬那剛剛委員提到的公開發行這一部分我們是不要持保留的態度為什麼 |
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因為公開發錢你們提案是說是參照郵廣法可是郵廣法的資本規模跟它商業模式它是吐息跟未廣頻道是吐逼這個相對是比較不同的我們會覺得說公開發錢這邊那現在所有的第四台都學三立然後都去宗家或者是第四台第四台做這個投資這是明文規定的可是你開了一個後門你有沒有辦法把它讀起來當然就是用這種法令用這種法令直接修法把它明定 |
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你要允許繼續再發生這個事嗎再鼓勵嗎你目前只有小法對不對沒有沒有都一千多萬一千多萬一千多萬對那個電視台賺的讓他電五天這是一個好那另外我看到你的這個書面資料裡面你特別有意思在強調說如果是採購案 |
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採購案預算法上面有規定你要清楚看一下我們的條文好不好我們的條文是你要制定一個你指定了一個方式在每年的6月30號之前將前一年度的資訊第一個是要公開揭露在你NCC指定的一個網站另外他們該事業例如說如果是三立或者民視或TBS他自己要公布好不好 |
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好 這個也跟委員補充報告採購這個預算法60條之一他是要求做兩件主要資訊公開的事情 第一個假設A機關開一個採購案給某家電視台去得標了 那A機關必須在他的官網裡頭去揭露說我這一塊的資訊揭露 另外這個一樣是預算法60條之一也要求這個主力總署那邊的官網也要同步揭露 就是兩個地方資訊已經在揭露了 |
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我們這個修法裡面明定的是三個一塊是採購一個是補助一個是廣告這三個都是要揭露的好不好那更重要的是你剛剛提的預算法裡面某部分做的這個做的公佈之後還不夠完整所以我們才訂了這個條文好不好那我今天非常鄭重的要求 主委今天有好幾個立法委員跟我們台灣民眾黨的黨團都已經提出了修正案了你剛剛有提說你們有在討論對不對 |
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我們黨政軍部分什麼時候可以提出行政院院版跟委員報告很抱歉因為這個重大政策是需要委員會議通過那目前NCC沒有委員會議所以院版 官方的版本對案是比較沒有辦法提出來的所以你剛才是講說你沒有在研究嘛那要過就是委員對啊 那NCC委員就叫行政院長總裁趕快提啊趕快提啊 他們是不是有財務法不依法行政該提的人士他不提啊 |
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前委會也不提 NCC也不提戴總統 道跑官也不提他貪玩整個國家是不是你們如果是真的需要NCC委員要通過的話請儘快趕快去跟那個賴清德講 跟那個卓中泰講趕快把NC的人事提 不只要趕快提跟時間賽跑要趕快提 影響太大了第二個提出全民可以接受的專業性過的 獨立性過的要不然 諸位 |
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NCC以前本來形象不錯所以這幾年搞到變成政治打手了趕快提出大家全民可以接受的人選趕快把 讓NCC的形象可以更好加油啦我們適當 適當實際反應謝謝委員好 謝謝張啟開委員 |