| IVOD_ID |
166228 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/166228 |
| 日期 |
2025-12-08 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-4-23-10 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第4會期交通委員會第10次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
4 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
10 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
23 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
交通委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第4會期交通委員會第10次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-12-08T11:08:06+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-12-08T11:17:08+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:09:02 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/e238918248e277b37eef73b56ef3fe6cb5dd3a7969bdec969da9d853841b9c5bced9b5e91fca9c545ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
林俊憲 |
| 委員發言時間 |
11:08:06 - 11:17:08 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-12-08T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第4會期交通委員會第10次全體委員會議（事由：審查一、委員羅智強等55人、二、台灣民眾黨黨團及三、委員翁曉玲等24人分別擬具「衛星廣播電視法部分條文修正草案」案、四、委員陳雪生等23人及五、委員傅崐萁等24人分別擬具「衛星廣播電視法第五條條文修正草案」案、六、委員葉元之等22人擬具「衛星廣播電視法第十一條條文修正草案」案、七、委員翁曉玲等16人擬具「衛星廣播電視法刪除第五十條條文草案」案、八、委員許智傑等27人及九、委員洪孟楷等22人分別擬具「衛星廣播電視法第六十四條條文修正草案」案。
【本次會議僅進行詢答】
【12月8日及10日二天一次會】） |
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本席邀請我們NCC陳代主委陳代主委請主委好主委我們今天我先跟你關心一下今天大家都很關心我們這個打炸的事情那打炸事法通過以後到底有沒有一些進步就政府的打炸的那個成效來看 |
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我看我們那個財損就被騙的財損數從去年的8月公告是138億下降到今年10月剩60億是有一些進步啦但是我覺得仍然還是要努力只要詐騙存在我們就應該要持續的來政府就打造方面不能鬆懈 |
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受理的案件數從21,244件下降到13,673件就是去年的10月跟今年6月做一個比較請問主委知道詐騙最多的是哪一類型的 |
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就是這邊購物跟投資詐騙購物最多了就是其實它NC是負責賭詐其實前面還有懲詐後面還有懲詐還有金管會的一些 |
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這五個部會都通力合作那跟委員報告在NC負責的堵炸這塊其實就是典型傳統的電信網路裡頭的電話 簡訊這些我們都做了相應的處理其實這些它的量直接在165通報裡頭它的量其實都是相對的零星那目前都轉移到網際網路那邊數位平台那邊去去從事詐騙那這邊我們都有 |
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合作啦 兩個部會合作你們本來就要合作我今天就是要講你跟蘇發部很多地方根本沒有合作啦你們跨一個單位啊那兩邊啊這個資訊就有嚴重落差啦你看網路購屋詐騙幾件 96件件數最多啦你看他財損金額雖然不高647萬但是因為啊這個會影響到民眾 |
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這個情緒很不滿 因為他建樹很多現代人很常在網路上購物買東西那就會發 有那種感覺到處都是陷阱去網路買東西就歡樂 怕遭到詐騙所以這種都會影響到國民的情緒所以既然他排名第一 網路購物詐騙那一定要優先針對他 |
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那第二就是你講的假投資詐騙假投資詐騙那更複雜第一個他必須要利用人的想投資的那個慾望或者是貪念第三他必須營造出就是他的技術會更高營造出這個真的可以讓你賺錢種種 |
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我現在講一般人民生問題最常碰到的網路詐騙這裡有個新聞2023年有一個當事人用企業的名義去向電信業者申請了30萬門的電信號碼你知道 |
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我們的法令的腳步多慢到2023年還可以用企業的名義一次就申請30萬個 |
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那個電信的門號後來就擋掉了後來現在不行了嘛對就打這條例事情前的那後來都把這個洞鎖起來了2023年還可以喔那2024年才不行嘛對不對去年就不行了因為我們打詐司法通過以後我們就有一個KYC啦你比較了解到你到底誰來申請門號可是在那之前幾乎啊你用企業的名義啊你可以申請無限量的門號好 |
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那你知道在網路上你要開一個購物平台啦你要開一個帳戶你必須要用一個手機號碼通常是這樣那一個手機號碼開一個網路購物平台上的帳號那如果啊你被發現是詐騙像我給你看了這個新聞有兩個嫌疑犯 |
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他們四個人 申辦了九萬多筆的大哥大門號你看這個很可怕四個人的清高版整個合碼然後去一個購物平台他創設了好幾萬個賬戶供詐騙集團使用結果呢被抓到 |
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被抓到以後呢 那NCC就會處理啦你就會把他申請的這幾個電信門號 你會把它給撤銷NCC有做到啦 有 好但是 事發部就沒有這個聯繫了來 我們再來看一下他用大哥大的門號一般 那個購物平台會要求你要有一個電信門號才可以申請一個購物平台的帳號 |
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好那現在被抓到了電信門號被NCC撤銷了但是這些詐騙的帳號在購物平台上仍然繼續存在繼續活躍那你說的網路現在購物平台是誰在管那伺劃部在管嘛這塊我們都有協作我們是透過高檢署把這個門號這邊設詐處理掉的我們同步請高檢署來來來我再給你看 |
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我們現在並沒有這樣的一個跨部會的聯繫我希望你們要趕快去我們加強其實跟委員報告在今年其實我們就透過高檢署把這個設在門號轉給電商平台把它的一些帳號都1.8萬個帳號都剷除掉了你們行政部門為什麼要推給你們為什麼要這樣推呢 |
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不是推 那因為我們高點數我跟你講 你不是覺得要打炸 打炸國家隊沒有 那是個合作的平台 因為高點數不是叫一個合作平台啊只要 但是只要你NCC把這個帳號給取消掉你應該就要通知另外一個管理網路的部會嘛 |
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其實我們也有同步給檢警到特別是165所以問題是蘇華部的問題目前這個協作其實都有在處理今天蘇華部不來沒有我跟你說現在就是這個事情正在發生中 |
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就是很多被破貨的詐騙他使用的當時在購物平台上在網路平台上他設立的那種詐騙帳號帳戶會繼續存在 |
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那號碼已經被你這邊撤銷了撤銷只是讓他不能再去別的平台開立帳戶而已或者他不能使用但是他已經之前在網路平台上設立的帳戶他可以繼續騙我現在今天要跟你討論的就是這一點 |
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485.614 |
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有 我們有在處理先前台灣使用最多的通訊軟體那時候透過門號的處理也把它4萬多個帳號剷除剛剛跟委員報告我們今年年中透過高點數轉給速發部電商品來處理掉也處理掉1.8萬個帳號 |
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才1.8萬嗎 不止吧是兩攤 第一攤那個是4萬多我給你看這幾個案件這些詐騙分子之前在電信公司申請的門號你看我這邊隨便貼一個9萬多個號碼之前媒體報導的也有一遍清三十幾萬在2023年以前這就都合法了 |
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我們的法令是非常落伍的我們一直到去年打詐司法以後才禁止這樣行為所以現在在外面流通的不知道幾百萬個門號他們可以很隨意的去到處開設那種詐騙帳戶難怪台灣之前的那種詐騙那麼猖獗好不好 跨部會的事情你們要趕緊幫他處理好不好這樣才像一個打詐國家隊嘛好 那就事情你做一步了好 謝謝主委 謝謝主席 |