| IVOD_ID |
166225 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/166225 |
| 日期 |
2025-12-08 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-4-19-15 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第4會期經濟委員會第15次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
4 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
15 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
19 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
經濟委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第4會期經濟委員會第15次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-12-08T11:16:45+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-12-08T11:26:19+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:09:34 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/e238918248e277b3a27f7f5448515be846ee6dd7c9e9cb529da9d853841b9c5bb268d5fed35f2e155ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
張啓楷 |
| 委員發言時間 |
11:16:45 - 11:26:19 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-12-08T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第4會期經濟委員會第15次全體委員會議（事由：審查：
一、本院委員謝衣鳯等16人擬具「農民退休儲金條例第七條條文修正草案」案。
二、本院委員郭國文等17人擬具「農民退休儲金條例第七條條文修正草案」案。
三、本院委員蔡易餘等20人擬具「農民退休儲金條例第二條及第七條條文修正草案」案。
四、本院委員陳亭妃等19人擬具「農民退休儲金條例第二條及第七條條文修正草案」案。
(第四案如未接獲院會交付審查之議事處來文，則不予審查) (詢答及處理)
【12月8日及10日二天一次會】） |
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謝謝主席 部長就坐著啦部長 高麗菜啊 今年高麗菜啊產量過剩那個價格價格大跌現在這個農民很辛苦而且無助所以啊最近啊我一方面為了幫助這個幫助這個農民一方面也幫我們嘉義鄉親加菜 所以我這禮拜 |
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我就買了一些高麗菜回去送給這個鄉親 讓這個農民不要那麼辛苦不要那麼辛苦那透過八位里長在家裡來領的人也很多那很多農民就在問齊凱一件事情 他就說要靜靜 要靜的時候農業部應該可以適度跟他們提醒可是我看了一下 現在有兩個大的問題你看喔 來我們看下一張來 你看一下 |
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除了燈號之外 我看你們花了五個紅燈然後三個黃燈以後 後來紅燈又掉下來嘛那很多專家寫者就在建議啊他說高麗菜差不多等年都有產銷適合這個事情嘛對不對啊 幾乎每年都發生啊那農業部能不能在這個外銷上面多去幫助農民尤其是東北亞這個亞洲的這個東北亞很多都需要一些蔬菜嘛 因為高麗菜這個農業部可以做嗎 |
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我跟你們報告第一個部分就是我們相對的如果到了東南亞東北亞日本還有韓國還有機會有一部分但是那個量比較少因為我們的高利貸的硬度跟國外的是不太一樣的部分但是成本的問題是比較困難但是我們還是會努力拉一些外交的還有一些簡易的問題我去探討以後我發現外交是一條很重要的路你看看 |
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下一張那個整個那個外銷台你看其實陳吉仲在1862年他曾經提過他跟全民宣誓說在108年的時候啊我們外銷農產品的這個 |
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金額要達到60億美金 你看喔這條就是我們外銷歷年來從民國100年一直到112年農產品外銷的十幾年來都是幾乎是一個平的線而且到了最近這幾年還是往下降沒有達到陳其中當初跟全民保證跟農民保證了 |
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60億美金沒有一年達到對不對你看這個108年也沒有達到然後更嚴重的所以這幾年還在掉外銷外銷這部分能不能趕快加強好不好 |
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我跟委員報告這幾年外銷有稍微下滑那最主要幾個因素就是第一個部分就是因為其實去年跟特別是去年跟今年我們遇到很多颱風我們自己的生命就不太夠了有沒有因為外銷的這些品項受到因為颱風的影響所以減少了部分所以這個部分我想我們還會更精準的去走高端市場讓他的量比較少但是他的價格是不是可以比較高一點來維持這個我們會來努力 |
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增加量,然後你講的很好,就是包括價格要提升,因為你隔壁財來看它在107年你看曾經7645結果到了 |
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113年竟然只剩下它十分之一然後講這個萎縮得太嚴重了那另外有一個點農民在反映的農民在外銷可以多幫他們的這個同時現在好像很多都是後來就買去就是當成那個多元循環經濟就是當肥料了 |
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我想甘藍的部分我們不做去化的部分因為甘藍的部分第一個就是我們有一些警示而且我們很多也發簡訊發到農民的手中那威華你也知道嗎因為甘藍的部分如果說維持在10塊上下過去都是因為他們都認為說量多的時候政府就會出手所以他就不斷的種多啦所以現在目前大概12塊吧現在 |
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12到15之間現在是比較穩定當然前一段時間量比較多的話是也比較節12到15這真的很慘對不對12到15應該是一個合理的利率對啦那剛才外銷其實你看剛才的外銷其實這幾年的外銷還是有成長我們會來努力就是拉到其他的國家但是檢疫的問題可能要更慎重來處理農民在歡迎說你現在去其實我包括高麗菜有些都有拿去做那個去化你看100克白泥 |
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還有到113還有一些當然盡量減少我甚至說買回來不一定買回去還是可以做很多事情啊不只是外銷啊你還是可以做充分的利用以前那個香蕉比較多跟國防部都有些合作啊 |
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買回去如果只要有一個一定的用途那價格應該有一部分可以當加工的部分加工也可以用最重要最重要的就是讓他們的價格可以提升了解我們來講另外一個就是工糧收購工糧收購那時候通過了一公斤調高五塊錢之後博定你說怕調高之後生產會過剩可是我現在很明確明確給你看事實上去年調高之後 |
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到座的面積沒有升反而往下降對不對那是因為我們的糧食產業政策有沒有我剛才說的我們只處理福島收購價格然後相對的增加相對的供糧收購量而不是用五塊去所以用我們的政策很實際的現在的糧價就支撐在那邊而且繳供糧的反而變少了表示說用民糧的方式就可以來處理 |
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你跟農民講說一下子調高太多事實證明就沒有沒有啊那是因為我們的政策才造成這樣的而不是直接拉五塊拉五塊一定不是今天這個結果政策是一部分啦我現在是跟你講說你當初跟農民講說會很多人搶著走那就沒有嘛沒有 |
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從這個數據很清楚 就是面積更多的面積反而降委員 這個誤解喔我們是用我們的政策去推動才能夠獲得這樣的成果而不是用五塊錢直接加購五塊錢加購絕對不是今天這個成果 |
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喔不對喔 你那個五塊錢是朝野協商過了民進黨也說要退你那個現在只調了一塊八對不對你當然有某些政策啦可是你陸陸續續你有答應還要陸陸續續續還要再抬不管怎麼樣 不管委員的這些提案我們的重點就是讓農民的收益變多嘛然後現在用我們的政策讓農民的收益就已經變得很穩定而且變高這是大家願意看到的嘛升高了三分之一嘛 |
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有人做了統計說我們全國農民因為這個政策可能今年多收入可能有40億那現在就是要適度再增更你要三分還欠農民三分之二沒有 這個不能這樣講這不能這樣講因為您提的提案跟我們的提案目的就是讓農民所得保障跟提高用我們的政策除了保障水稻的農民也保障了一些種雜糧的部分所以大家一起提高那是我們共同期待看到的目標 |
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就是台灣民眾黨提案 國民黨也提案我們完成了立法院 民進黨也沒有反對啊所以是三黨通過的美工經驗調高五塊那你說你用的政策很好後來做了一個決策慢慢讓農民可以收入可以增加這是好的啦而且別提起你就是沒有出現你剛剛講以前在擔心什麼面積 身高這個問題更重要的 |
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適度還應該要再提高啦因為當初立法院通過的不要像那個行政院長說什麼我就不執行這樣不好會變成憲政一個危機來保證我另外問你一個問題那個米還是外銷的問題來講這個公糧跟米米的外銷這幾年表現得不好你像咖哩 咖哩在推動這個幸福的咖哩今年米的外銷很不錯啊 |
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非常好啊今年到目前為止我給你看下一張有嗎今年114年1月到10號有嗎只有110年的一半 |
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不可能 我覺得我們會後再給你資料我們今年的米特別好 今年的米特別好OK 今天米特別好啦 兩個啦 第一個就是在減少所以在外銷米方面在加強 這是第一個第二個 你看我們嘉義推動這個嘉義平和嘉義米這是嘉義市政府幫忙 黃米會他們幫忙啊 他們就推展到日本去啦 |
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地方政府都可以做那你的资源更多嘛对不对我想我们全台湾有非常多的米销到日本我们都有协助包括跟农会协助包括跟地方政府合作我们都有在做对会 我们会一起来努力台湾的米非常好你想一份就能省米啊那多推一些到日本去外销再多一点让我们的农民收入可以增加好不好好 我们会来努力谢谢张其凯委员的咨询谢谢部长我们请张家俊委员咨询 |