| IVOD_ID |
166219 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/166219 |
| 日期 |
2025-12-08 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-4-19-15 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第4會期經濟委員會第15次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
4 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
15 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
19 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
經濟委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第4會期經濟委員會第15次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-12-08T10:32:28+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-12-08T10:40:15+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:07:47 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/e238918248e277b3d3b4c8abd195a8f046ee6dd7c9e9cb52dc54cac4b90edbf5450105506708a8dc5ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
陳超明 |
| 委員發言時間 |
10:32:28 - 10:40:15 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-12-08T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第4會期經濟委員會第15次全體委員會議（事由：審查：
一、本院委員謝衣鳯等16人擬具「農民退休儲金條例第七條條文修正草案」案。
二、本院委員郭國文等17人擬具「農民退休儲金條例第七條條文修正草案」案。
三、本院委員蔡易餘等20人擬具「農民退休儲金條例第二條及第七條條文修正草案」案。
四、本院委員陳亭妃等19人擬具「農民退休儲金條例第二條及第七條條文修正草案」案。
(第四案如未接獲院會交付審查之議事處來文，則不予審查) (詢答及處理)
【12月8日及10日二天一次會】） |
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主席好 現在有請陳部長我們請陳部長您好先幾言辛苦 |
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你向我們的召委明年才要請縣長現在聲音就沙啞了要好好保重身體堅持到最後部長你笑了你的閃腰也要保重自己你是下鄉閃腰還是打高爾夫球閃腰我不會打高爾夫球不會打高爾夫球下鄉閃腰好 我了解那剛剛有談到執意的問題 |
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你谈到饲料有补贴但是池液里面变成有机肥料好像没有补贴因为那个环境部说原料来源不明很多种混杂其实池液里面可以做很多很好的有机肥料这个有没有办法突破 |
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我跟委員報告就是用廚餘去做成肥料的時候最大的一個困擾就是因為廚餘的料源它的成分不穩定那成分不穩定做成飼料的時候他可能還要再添加因為飼料是一個規格品所以最大的問題是有沒有辦法規格化 |
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你飼料如果有機肥料你也可以檢查出來我是提供一個idea其實我聽他們很多人講這個有機肥料非常有效環境部不敢認定我覺得以臺灣的生物科技你有機肥料一定能檢查出來嘛你要只要要檢查灰粥汁你看它的裡面有沒有含那種細菌在裡面嘛不要環境部一講你們就萎縮了其實通道有機肥料比飼料還要 |
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重要而且銷售的時候比較不會有困難了解我我謝謝委員的提醒就是有機就是廚藝變成堆肥的部分那那個部分我們來推廣那我們不會不會說因為裡面可能是不是要檢查什麼非洲豬瘟病毒因為他不是在非洲豬瘟的傳播鏈裡面 |
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所以這個部分最重要是它的品規有沒有一致性這樣的話農民用的時候才可以用這方面再精進一下了解一定有辦法去分析出來的感謝多元的用途大家的壓力才不會那麼大而且選擇高單價了解這永遠是在競爭裡面生物科技的一環 |
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今天我們只要是農民退休執政條例我記得上個會期謝用委員就有召開了對不對你說要版本趕快送過來我說下個會期就這個會期啊上個會期謝用委員上個會期我說下個會期會送進來啊這下個會期現在快要結束了1月31號啊還拍拚了啦會 我會努力但是這裡面 |
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我說現在選舉時間政治很敏感郭國文是台南市長候選人 |
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那個先用你彰化縣縣長候選人我們的陳田輝召委您台南市市長候選人我們的蔡義儀是你嘉義縣縣長候選人還有一個臨時通案我們的楊瓊威委員是台中市你候選人現在你問題大 |
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所以你老生選到這個選舉你這招就做了不要讓大家痛苦開始都在唱了那我今天聽你報告你說要政府吃多農民吃少你建議的剛好農民吃40% |
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政府吃60% 兩個都是綠色的 你選擇它當初我記得上個會期你跟我挨啦 不能增加多少啦我現在就大放開了那這邊我們不是要參選市長 縣長我們提30到70最公正百姓吃30 政府吃70 這樣好不好所以你心機很重耶我跟委員報告我在上個會期的時候就提出來了 |
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那時候委員的版本都還沒有 我就提出來說是不是可以用一個保障不變的之下 比例可以做調整我們現在在代理的版本 現在出來 你看這競選到我厲害了我跟他說 你現在這個時候 給大家去搶不要說這幾個人功勞 他們也會拿出來不會啊 我想我們在做這個設計 |
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你這樣一次來4.6到時候變成3.7還是其他調整比例先想好啊明年選舉連啊 官位要保得住啊這個你說你不會啦你一定很公平我們是用專業的角度去設計一個包括財政的問題啦趕快送出來快要結束了會 會剛才趙委員已經有說過了我們進可能會跟行政院來協調你要比委員的版本 |
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行政院要比委員的版本早一點送進來啦這個心機很深我告訴你不是我能夠控制的這個在行政院卡住啦另外也想你會注到排付條款 |
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這幾年我一直在鄉下 突然存款每一年綜合所得不得超過五十萬第二個 個人土地及房屋價格不得超過五百萬我走到台 風涼到台 |
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現在地價上漲 公告的限值也在上漲你不趕快改 現在管理局長的候選人一定會被頭一條迷你蚱蜢把你踢出來我跟委員報告你覺得要改嗎 我記得楊清雄我們幾個選舉委員會的人一直反映這個問題我跟委員報告你都要等到選舉年要踢出來 沒有提早動作 |
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動機不純正 心機不正你買 你才大方一點我告訴你 你這個問題十幾天什麼 乖乖你就要照顧我告訴你 老農經貸大概三個部分 額度的部分一個是所得的部分 一個是財產的部分的排付那這個排付我們都已經設計好了 我們從 |
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去年十月多一直到今年的三四月的時候都跟院長報告八月的時候最後一次報告已經送到縣政院去的您也趕快提出來 我們要提出來不然功勞都是那些選舉人 你看都在這個時候出來 把他踢出來 |
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法案早一點提出來啦要到明年選舉再提出來啦不會啦什麼不會 就已經到了還不會你要不要改那個排污條款什麼時候提出來我們有做修正然後我們也把版本送到行政院去了我很尊重你耶你講話都很福氣耶真的 我已經送到行政院去啦那要趕快拿出來不然我們走到台下所有人都為了這樣就算了我會再跟行政院報告看看可不可以儘快 |
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盡快的時候 這些人會跳下來把你農業部包圍起來吧盡早準備盡快送出來 減輕他們的負擔 謝謝好 謝謝 謝謝委員謝謝陳昌明委員質詢 謝謝 |