| IVOD_ID |
166208 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/166208 |
| 日期 |
2025-12-08 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-4-19-15 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第4會期經濟委員會第15次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
4 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
15 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
19 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
經濟委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第4會期經濟委員會第15次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-12-08T09:55:13+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-12-08T10:03:49+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:08:36 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/e238918248e277b3ddf47c56d8aa253846ee6dd7c9e9cb52dc54cac4b90edbf53c1fa2322f5407415ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
鄭天財Sra Kacaw |
| 委員發言時間 |
09:55:13 - 10:03:49 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-12-08T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第4會期經濟委員會第15次全體委員會議（事由：審查：
一、本院委員謝衣鳯等16人擬具「農民退休儲金條例第七條條文修正草案」案。
二、本院委員郭國文等17人擬具「農民退休儲金條例第七條條文修正草案」案。
三、本院委員蔡易餘等20人擬具「農民退休儲金條例第二條及第七條條文修正草案」案。
四、本院委員陳亭妃等19人擬具「農民退休儲金條例第二條及第七條條文修正草案」案。
(第四案如未接獲院會交付審查之議事處來文，則不予審查) (詢答及處理)
【12月8日及10日二天一次會】） |
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主席部長已經上來了謝謝部長好今天這個審查我們農民退休處境條例這個在 |
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我們農業部的一個報告裡面還特別提到擴大農業保險讓農民不再看天吃飯這樣的一個建立農民退休儲金事實上如果我們從這幾年雖然農民退休儲金已經開始實施了但是農民還是要看天吃飯 |
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從這個相關的丹納斯颱風到花架沙尤其是這個馬太安溪岩澀湖潰壩一流造成光復鄉鳳林鎮還有這個望龍鄉這麼大的一個損害這個都是除了家戶之外的農民也做了很大的損害所以 |
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還是要看天吃飯那我們看今天的農民退休儲金條例大家都很關心農業部已經擬了農民退休儲金條例相關的條文包括第七條的修正送到行政院請問一下部長什麼時候送到行政院 |
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其實在去年的時候就不斷的在院裡面討論也跟院長報告我至少跟院長報告了三次然後最後一個定案的版本是在今年8月的時候送到 |
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送到行政院去今年8月送到行政院所以之前是內部溝通不是不斷的因為有一些內容不斷的討論不斷的討論對這個事實上是要跟相關的部會然後這個政務委員 |
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我也跟委員報告其實院長蠻重視這一塊的所以我們當初的很多設計院長都覺得說都應該再放寬所以很多東西包括農民退休儲金或者是老農津貼的時候所以我們在設計這個東西的時候其實已經考慮到農民的一些因素 |
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很多事一定要強化有的法律還真的是要修正甚至法律名稱都應該要改現在還有你的法律跟你主管業務有關的還寫暫行條例知道嗎對嘛已經幾十年還暫行條例對不對所以這個部分都要改了所以這個部分要繼續加油 |
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好我们看这个这个上次 |
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我也在跟這個農業部這邊請農業部來去加強先導那有關原住民農民參加農退儲金的在112年是5.7%的經過你們的加強先導之後這個有提高了現在有8%這個是在今年4月的一個數字 |
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雖然是這樣有提高了但是比例還是相當的需要加強所以還是要請農業部這邊透過農會的系統我想跟委員報告我們後續會跟原民會一起來去勾結針對原民參加農保的部分這樣的話比較能夠精準的去做一些宣導 |
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好談到這個部分因為剛才也提到了這個花蓮光復這次馬太安西燕社府潰壩一流的這些當然這個都是農田不限於原住民非原住民更多更多所以這個農民 |
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退休儲金他本來有繳他是不是還有能力繼續繳這個部分也請這個農業部能夠並以去了解去協助他們的農保已經我們補助他六個月職債保險也是一樣就是他六個月可以免繳那個農保的部分我知道我剛剛是講那個退休儲金的部分看怎麼樣有怎麼樣協助當然很重要的就是你們 |
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接下来的这些你看这个都是这个是房子旁边的农田这个佛祖街那附近的都这么高一直到现在现在还这么高所以这个部分的让农民如何去跟踪没有办法跟踪所以这个部分要去 |
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什麼時候要把它清除啊那個部長我跟委員報告現在被淹的大概有7我沒有記錯的話大概774公頃 |
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那774公頃鳳林的部分有一部分然後光復有一部分然後真正的重災區就是土煙超過50公分以上的那我們有一部分可能就是直接看看有沒有醫院就是做照林的方式然後50公分以下的直接翻耕然後我們有個輔導團會去協助他轉做一些其他的作物部長這個當然是要那個方向是要進行 |
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我是說只有政府機關才有辦法挖走要把這個土挖走啊這個我來讓部長回憶一下紀連城總協調官 政務委員在10月20號開過協調會特別提到這個農地的垃圾的侵潤還有農地土砂的處理 |
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都是要由農業部來去處理這個要進行啊我們已經在進行農地的垃圾清潤時序在做農地土砂的處理的部分剛才說的就是50公分以下的我們現在做翻耕翻耕我們已經有一個輔導團去協助說翻耕以後是不是要做一些土壤改良這個已經在做了比較重災的就是50公分以上大概218公頃 |
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那這218公頃的話因為它腹土太高了然後看看有沒有辦法農地重劃那這個我們也已經發了問卷部長你剛剛都講過了重複了對我們都做問卷啊先解決這個好不好先解決這個要不要先把它搬走啊沒有這個我跟委員報告這個土完全不可能全部搬走啦因為全部搬走至少五年而且搬了以後不是部長你自己看嘛它那麼高啊 |
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對 所以我們才會說不同的深度的時候我們有不同的處理的方法那有些地方可以農地重劃農地重劃的時候我們也問了開始做問卷如果願意農地重劃的話這個都可以打平就是不挖但是它土地的那個土砂的高度會變高 |
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497.093 |
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好 這個部分因為時間的關係再請你們負責業務的我想我們的進度隨時跟委員報告因為我們一直不斷的跟居民做溝通 |
| transcript.whisperx[21].start |
499.039 |
| transcript.whisperx[21].end |
511.034 |
| transcript.whisperx[21].text |
這個就找你們這個是農田水利署我們有一個團隊然後這個土砂的部分是農田水利署就請你們那個團隊跟我討論一下好謝謝 |