| IVOD_ID |
166135 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/166135 |
| 日期 |
2025-12-03 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-4-19-14 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第4會期經濟委員會第14次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
4 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
14 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
19 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
經濟委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第4會期經濟委員會第14次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-12-03T11:26:49+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-12-03T11:33:14+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:06:25 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/d5a4ce084af309d67221f0ca60c70cc64cd0246cdf0bd28ba14720b4e10c82cb1f8b1bbbc21182005ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
葉元之 |
| 委員發言時間 |
11:26:49 - 11:33:14 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-12-03T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第4會期經濟委員會第14次全體委員會議（事由：審查：
本院委員林宜瑾等22人、委員劉建國等16人、委員徐巧芯等17人、委員李坤城等22人、委員廖先翔等19人、台灣民眾黨黨團、委員羅廷瑋等18人、委員郭昱晴等16人、委員林思銘等18人、委員洪孟楷等16人、蘇巧慧等17人、委員吳琪銘等17人、委員陳亭妃等16人分別擬具「動物保護法部分條文修正草案」、委員呂玉玲等16人、委員張智倫等16人、委員葉元之等17人分別擬具「動物保護法第十條條文修正草案」、台灣民眾黨黨團、委員葉元之等17人分別擬具「動物保護法第二十五條之二條文修正草案」、委員林岱樺等21人擬具「動物保護法第十四條之一、第十四條之二及第三十條條文修正草案」、委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等16人擬具「動物保護法第二條及第十條條文修正草案」、委員呂玉玲等16人、委員楊瓊瓔等21人、委員張宏陸等17人、委員郭昱晴等16人分別擬具「動物保護法第二十五條及第二十五條之一條文修正草案」、委員陳亭妃等18人擬具「動物保護法第五條、第二十條及第二十五條條文修正草案」、委員葉元之等17人、委員郭昱晴等21人分別擬具「動物保護法增訂第十四條之三條文草案」、委員葉元之等17人、委員吳沛憶等16人分別擬具「動物保護法第二十五條條文修正草案」、委員游顥等23人擬具「動物保護法第二十五條之一條文修正草案」、台灣民眾黨黨團擬具「動物保護法第二條及第五條條文修正草案」、委員吳沛憶等17人擬具「動物保護法第二十二條之四條文修正草案」、委員賴瑞隆等17人擬具「動物保護法第二條及第六條之二條文修正草案」、委員鄭正鈐等19人擬具「動物保護法第三十二條條文修正草案」、委員羅智強等16人擬具「動物保護法第二十三條條文修正草案」以及委員郭昱晴等19人擬具「動物保護法第二十五條之二及第三十三條之二條文修正草案」、本院委員賴瑞隆等16人擬具「動物保護法第三條及第五條條文修正草案」及本院委員邱若華等16人擬具「動物保護法第二十五條之二、第三十三條之二及第三十三條之三條文修正草案」
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我們請葉元之委員請做詢答主席好 請找農業部請杜志 |
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委員好市長因為大家都非常關心動物保護啦然後也提了很多動保法的修正法案那為什麼你們的那個版本都一直不送來啊是為什麼啊有人覺得大家提的沒有什麼意義還是還是動保不重要還是怎麼樣因為我發現現在 |
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其實台灣的社會蠻重視動物保護這一塊的尤其是如果有看到動物被虐待啊甚至於有一些其他的傷害的情勢其實大家都很憤慨你們有注意到台灣社會的這樣的大家關心這個議題嗎 |
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其实不止社会其实我们这个委员会里面大家也都很重视对当然啊所以提了38个那为什么只有农业部不重视啊没有我们也很重视啊那为什么法案为什么不赶快提来呢我们是把这个大家提的意见其实有经验过啦因为有共识的希望所以你们不会有版本了 |
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我們會儘快把行政院版本送起來你們會不會有版本一定會有 我們儘快把行政院版本送起來你們會有版本嗎我們有版本那有版本為什麼不趕快送來呢這是卡在哪裡卡在行政院哪個高官不重視動保都重視 都非常重視都重視那是卡在哪裡是還在細心雕琢那個文字還是怎麼樣還是公文旅行因為這個問題大家問很多次了就是每一次來假設大家都在問這件事情的話代表 |
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農業部或行政院不重視嗎你們農業部送到行政院沒我們過去了已經過去多久了因為其實就像剛剛委員你們出農業部多久沒有啦 我有跟他們說其實社會就是大家對這件事情的重視度很高所以行政院那邊希望把這個沒有 你們送出去多久了嘛 |
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應該11月有經過政務會議討論過了嘛11月你們11月才送出去沒有啦我們之前送進去你們之前是去年就送了你們去年就送了送進去了那行政院到底在忙什麼忙了一年多希望把大家有共識的經驗出來送進來那你們有去問要多久嗎我們一直在催因為大家都很重視 |
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那是卡在左宗泰院長不會啦 就是有共識的版本出來就一定會馬上送到立法院所以是行政院很沒共識喔謝謝委員支持不是講這個官話啦是真的是太誇張了吧你們去年就送了你們去年就送了我記得農業部長還來過這邊我們還跟他詢答過欸 |
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然後結果行政院拖一年多完全不當一回事都在忙什麼大罷免喔不是都已經結束了嗎還在忙動物保護議題因為很重要太誇張了啦現在大家幾件事情我覺得大家應該都有共識吧你如果虐待動物加重其刑或罰則 |
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還有收容廠的一些問題收容量呢都要提升嘛是沒有問題嘛是那上一次我在質詢部長的時候那時候我自己有提一個修正案啦應該是新增的就是如果說有 |
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大量動物的收容所應該要納入縣市管理啦然後可是農業部的回應文字上的回應是講說不妥啦為什麼呢因為有些收容所他可能有地木啊各種型態啊所以納管會有困難 |
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那當時我就不以為然啦因為我就印象當中之前比如說工廠也有很多地下工廠是衛利案也是有土地問題但是經濟部就可以訂一個衛利案工廠的管理辦法把它逐步納入管理那為什麼像收容所動物收容所這種就沒辦法 |
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你如果不納管的話裡面出現虐待動物各種情勢你無法你可能比較難掌握或後續的一些處理嘛那部長後來當下他覺得確實文字不妥啦那我不知道說這件事情農業部後來有朝向哪個方向 |
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应该是说不是不管啦因为其实他只要有收容动物这一块其实还是要去辅导要去理解特别是在 猎管猎管对是有猎管因为其实就是说包括他的免疫注射也好他对动物饲养的状况其实都要去所以应该嘛应该应该啦因为我在我花一个分钟问另外一个议题那个反正你们赶快送啦好不好大家才比较更能聚焦然后我问一下我听说啦那个液态炉的 |
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會有一個平益價格的委員會過去都是9月10月就開了今年到現在都還沒開可能是12月底才會開我推測這應該是跟台北的關稅談判有關可能是不是台灣這邊已經確定要開放美國的義太盧了 |
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那開放美國的液態爐因為現在的美國液態爐進來台灣是有跟是WTO的規定嘛有一定的配額是關稅15%超過配額的話關稅會更高那現在如果說是比較沒有關稅的話美國液態爐進來那一定是消費者的福音啦因為像Costco的牛奶就很便宜嘛那農業部現在的狀況怎麼樣 |
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那對農民的衝擊你們這個有提出相對應的保護措施嗎應該這樣講乳價平益委員會其實是由弱農跟乳廠組成的其實農業部不在那裡面所以價格是由農業部可以影響農業部每次都說比如說淡價委員會淡農的事跟我無關或者誰怎麼樣其實農業部都可以影響都撇一乾二淨 |
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乳價評議委員因為我們沒有在裡面啦他們要開會其實我們是樂觀其成就是大家把這個價格對接好嘛因為其實弱農生產的先好那關稅的問題欸關稅的問題要乳廠去收才能到消費者關稅的問題你不知道該不關那個吧因為一定是有關啦一定是有關的沒關係你可能不方便講啦我只是講說看起來可能對台灣的農業會衝擊很大啦相信你們應該已經做好相對應的措施了吧 |
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不管關稅怎麼談農業部絕對支持臺灣農業OK 好 謝謝 |