| IVOD_ID |
166133 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/166133 |
| 日期 |
2025-12-03 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-4-35-20 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第4會期外交及國防委員會第20次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
4 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
20 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
35 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
外交及國防委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第4會期外交及國防委員會第20次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-12-03T11:18:15+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-12-03T11:26:41+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:08:26 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/d5a4ce084af309d6a42726e852efaef882f8c8e0c6b9e8aea14720b4e10c82cbb268d5fed35f2e155ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
王鴻薇 |
| 委員發言時間 |
11:18:15 - 11:26:41 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-12-03T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第4會期外交及國防委員會第20次全體委員會議（事由：邀請外交部部長林佳龍、國家安全局局長蔡明彥報告「美中領導人再次電話通聯後對國際秩序及區域情勢之發展」，並備質詢。） |
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好 謝謝主席 那我請我們林部長請林部長好 部長好 先請教您一個個人的問題就是明年是縣市長的選舉您個人會有可能參選明年的縣市長選舉嗎 |
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我目前沒有這個打算我現在的身份是外交部長我想請問 絕無可能嗎 |
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我是認為這個問題我現在的身份不適合回答啦我現在是外交部長在備詢因為我們現在這麼關心所有的外交問題情勢瞬息外面還有包含我們的邦交國我現在就是把外交部長做好所以你目前只能回答我目前沒有這樣的考慮不是絕無可能 是嗎沒有 我覺得這個問題有陷阱 |
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沒有 我覺得這個問題你再回避你再回避這個問題因為其實很重要因為你現在是外交部長就因為你現在是外交部長因為你要選明年縣市長的話可能明年這個上半年你可能就離開外交部長的位置了是不是我把外交部長的角色做好做一天和尚 壯一天忠嘛 |
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那另外部長就是有關於就是最近有關於我們的就是中日之間的關係還有面臨到台灣我們現在感謝這個高市這個他所講的就是對台灣的支持那我想請問一下您現在還會那個來鼓勵說國人要多到日本去觀光嗎 |
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有啊還是我知道當然我們出去觀光旅遊該注意的事情都要注意如果你要安排還沒有決定去處那日本會是一個很好的選擇第一件事情我個人認為我們對於日本表示感謝這個是合理的 |
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但是我們一味的去鼓勵國人到日本觀光對於我們的國旅業者來講對他們來說他們真的會非常的難過因為我們現在國旅非常慘第二點日本最近流感事實上是大蔓延大流行所以我還是要提醒我們的外交部長 |
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就是當你以外交部長的身份去鼓勵國人到日本觀光的時候還是請外交部長也能夠顧慮到你也當過交通部長嘛對不對我跟國旅也很熟啊我都很支持他們 |
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當我們的政府如果一味的去鼓勵到日本觀光那麼我們國旅的業者那對他們來講是有衝擊的那另外就是日本最近這個流感非常嚴重所以我覺得也應該要去提醒國人好另外就是 |
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就是現在我們一直在討論的包含這個洪都拉斯現在看起來我們比較樂觀因為現在青台的這個候選人雖然他們還在焦灼但是青台的候選人這兩位雖然他們倆很接近但是應該基本上他們有可能出現 |
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那所以很多人認為說那會不會呢就是洪都拉斯在政權變天之後能夠重新跟台灣跟中華民國能夠恢復邦交我不曉得對部長您的評估如果洪都拉斯他真的他的政權變天清台的候選人當選請問您有把握嗎你有信心嗎能夠重新恢復邦交 |
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外交是兩國的關係當然我們是對於特定國家如果基於平等互惠的原則下來建立邦交的關係我們是會開放的態度而且很積極來推動所以我們會積極重新拉攏回來 對不對 |
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我正在推龍邦計畫就是說有示範性比如說我們現在在宏都拉斯旁邊的瓜地馬拉跟貝里斯我們有龍邦計畫他們會看到所以我們以前是強調固邦我現在是強調龍邦我知道 我看到吳次長說你是現在歷任部長裡面最重視跟我們邦交國的關係的一個部長有人說他是不是在偷湊之前的吳釗燮部長 |
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那我想請問一下過去吳釗燮擔任外交部長的時候他也在根據他的媒體的訪問他也說好多跟我們中華民國斷交的國家後來都後悔啦都後悔因為後來發現跟這個中華民國斷交然後跟這個中華人民國建交也沒得到什麼好處可是問題是他還點名了好多個什麼馬拉威哥斯大黎加還有這邊一大堆叭叭叭叭 |
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可是問題是 沒有一個我們的前邦交國回頭 |
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目前為止 我們的困境就是我們斷交之後 他們回頭好難啊 是吧是不是 讓他們回頭很困難因為中共國際上的影響力很大那我請問一下洪都拉斯第一個 因為有白蝦問題嘛他認為台灣買的白蝦比較積極那只是一個議題 其實最重要的是中共的產品傾銷打擊他的經濟跟就業 請問一下 |
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如果洪都拉斯他變天清台的這個候選人當選美國會不會幫助台灣讓洪都拉斯重新跟中華民國建交 您的評估是什麼 |
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美國的態度當然現在很重視西半球嘛包括國務卿Marco Rubio到瓜地馬拉也講說肯定他們跟台灣也是邦交但是我們能不能跟特定國家發展邦交關係還是取決於我們這兩國的我們自己的國家的利益跟民意的支持那美國的態度當然多少會有影響可是過去的經驗也證明我們跟對象國家之間能不能建立一起互惠 |
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過去巴拿馬跟我們斷交的時候事實上美國並不希望巴拿馬跟中華民國斷交應該知道只是後來還是沒有辦法阻擋但是至少當時美國表達態度希望巴拿馬不要跟中華民國斷交 |
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那我想請問一下這一次川普大力的介入了洪都拉斯的大選好 當然他有他的很多的目的但是其中跟我們恢復邦交的部分你現在有任何的訊息或有任何的把握美國會幫助我們嗎 |
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應該說美國在川普總統更重視西半球然後包括國務卿盧比歐他也是有這樣的一個背景所以這個是比較正面的這個環境但是我意思說要恢復邦交不是簡單的事情中共的影響力很大但是我是基於說如果兩邊的國家發展我們有龍邦計畫那我們就不用建立在過去的一種 |
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比較屬於涉及到的一些大家批評的一些方式我們現在就是用這種方法在顧邦跟拓邦我們稍微站起來了 時間到了但是你的回答表示你沒有信心所以我覺得可以做一個努力也請美國來幫助我們如果我們希望能夠試圖跟孔都拉斯恢復邦交也請美國拿出很明確的態度就如同當年的巴拿馬斷交一樣 |
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拿出明確的態度來協助中華民國能夠重新讓我們把這個邦交國要回來可不可以可以好 謝謝 |