| IVOD_ID |
166132 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/166132 |
| 日期 |
2025-12-03 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-4-19-14 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第4會期經濟委員會第14次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
4 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
14 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
19 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
經濟委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第4會期經濟委員會第14次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-12-03T11:18:50+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-12-03T11:26:40+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:07:50 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/d5a4ce084af309d641d428cd8e5a1fe54cd0246cdf0bd28ba14720b4e10c82cbb268d5fed35f2e155ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
呂玉玲 |
| 委員發言時間 |
11:18:50 - 11:26:40 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-12-03T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第4會期經濟委員會第14次全體委員會議（事由：審查：
本院委員林宜瑾等22人、委員劉建國等16人、委員徐巧芯等17人、委員李坤城等22人、委員廖先翔等19人、台灣民眾黨黨團、委員羅廷瑋等18人、委員郭昱晴等16人、委員林思銘等18人、委員洪孟楷等16人、蘇巧慧等17人、委員吳琪銘等17人、委員陳亭妃等16人分別擬具「動物保護法部分條文修正草案」、委員呂玉玲等16人、委員張智倫等16人、委員葉元之等17人分別擬具「動物保護法第十條條文修正草案」、台灣民眾黨黨團、委員葉元之等17人分別擬具「動物保護法第二十五條之二條文修正草案」、委員林岱樺等21人擬具「動物保護法第十四條之一、第十四條之二及第三十條條文修正草案」、委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等16人擬具「動物保護法第二條及第十條條文修正草案」、委員呂玉玲等16人、委員楊瓊瓔等21人、委員張宏陸等17人、委員郭昱晴等16人分別擬具「動物保護法第二十五條及第二十五條之一條文修正草案」、委員陳亭妃等18人擬具「動物保護法第五條、第二十條及第二十五條條文修正草案」、委員葉元之等17人、委員郭昱晴等21人分別擬具「動物保護法增訂第十四條之三條文草案」、委員葉元之等17人、委員吳沛憶等16人分別擬具「動物保護法第二十五條條文修正草案」、委員游顥等23人擬具「動物保護法第二十五條之一條文修正草案」、台灣民眾黨黨團擬具「動物保護法第二條及第五條條文修正草案」、委員吳沛憶等17人擬具「動物保護法第二十二條之四條文修正草案」、委員賴瑞隆等17人擬具「動物保護法第二條及第六條之二條文修正草案」、委員鄭正鈐等19人擬具「動物保護法第三十二條條文修正草案」、委員羅智強等16人擬具「動物保護法第二十三條條文修正草案」以及委員郭昱晴等19人擬具「動物保護法第二十五條之二及第三十三條之二條文修正草案」、本院委員賴瑞隆等16人擬具「動物保護法第三條及第五條條文修正草案」及本院委員邱若華等16人擬具「動物保護法第二十五條之二、第三十三條之二及第三十三條之三條文修正草案」
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謝謝主席 請杜長賜我們請杜賜 |
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常事很有活力还有跑步的辛苦了一个早上常事我们的动保法修法其实我们已经在112年的时候就已经农业部就已经送到行政院行政院到现在都还没有排审他的意见大概就是说很多的意见分歧非常的混乱但是本席在这边提到 |
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因為我們動保法的這個修法我們在委員會拍了多少次的諮詢就是等我們原版的版本進來那現在如果意見很分歧的話我們可不可以去盤點一下分階段分項目的來處理如果說像是這個高虐待動物的這個罰款的啊或者是說提升動物的這個保護的檢查員這個執法的這個量能這部分有共識的部分我們先提出來來做修法可不可以 |
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謝謝委員我們覺得也是應該讓有共識的先提出來不要整版都不提出來嗎謝謝我們的方向也是這樣子所以那年底可以提出來嗎已經很多有共識了有共識的我們會先來做年底可以提出來嗎應該可以現在行政院的版本應該只願會而已 |
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一直在那边112年就放到现在了非常缓慢政务会议审过只剩下院会所以我们会来再催一下所以年底可以出来吗 |
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如果說要全面禁止餵養的話可能會有困難有些志工要經過餵食的時候來捕抓這些流浪的動物所以我們可不可以針對人跟動物有衝突的熱區盤點這個熱區用這個熱區的地方我們來禁止餵養來先行公佈可不可以 |
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我們現在的做法是這樣子啦 其實當然對於如果跟人有衝突的 侵犯人的 去追狗的很多啊 有些被咬傷的 被追又跌倒的我們就列作優先去這個把它捕捉這些遊蕩犬控制啦 這是第一點那對於野生動物 像自然公園啦 保護區啦 |
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保護區的前面禁止餵養但是我說一般地方一般地方現在其實並沒有像我們地方縣市政府中央跟地方都可以共同來做的嘛你可以把盤點出這個熱區跟人跟這個流浪的流浪動物有衝突性比較高的地方這些地方你先請來公布執行禁止餵養有些縣市其實他們有自己做一些自治條例的一些公告有 |
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像桃園都已經有公布了其實我們都蠻歡迎的因為我覺得這樣其實算是我們中央要有制度下去啊可不可以其實整體性的可不可以說這個盤點哪些地區是熱區就我們來看其實也不叫熱區不熱區其實對我們來看其實只要不是你自己的動物真的不要去餵常常發生事情被動物咬啊或者追理論是不是自己的動物其實不要去餵它不管是狗貓或者是野生動物你要怎麼樣去公告可以公告嗎 |
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目前在中央的法規你盤點熱區盤點出來沒有哪些地方有熱區你就公告嘛優先公告做得到嗎地方自治是可以公告但是目前中央法規並沒有這樣的一條來做只有在自然公園保護區那些我們在做辦法的處理我是覺得不要什麼都推到地方啦我們中央也可以盤點一下有哪些地方是熱區我們就先行公告地方也好去執行嘛 |
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這巡檢的人員也可以有這個量能啊去做他可以做的事情 |
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可以作為是提示性的但是其實並沒有法源可以去這才可以降低這個衝突風險的地方啊可不可以我想其實你們去研議不要一下否決掉好不好我們來盤點一下研議啦中央跟地方要攜手合作把事情才可以徹底的執行下去好不好那接下來本席要提的就是常次我要問你就是進行台灣紅火與防制已經有多少年了 |
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多少年了不知道20幾年了有20幾年了2003年開始到現在我們經費一年一年編下去全台的面積 |
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是只有增加还是减少你知道吗并没有大幅增加但是在于比方说像像花莲好了这次那个烟社会的时候其实我们的那个红火与中心其实启动调查因为也怕那个水流把这些这个分布增加所以其实整个机制是有的但是防治效果必须看能不能集中火力来做集中火力有做其实都会有效果像金门效果就做得还不错效果很好 |
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這樣很好 我們都樂觀其成喔但是嘗試桃園呢桃園是全台灣總面積的一半以上其他縣市的總和還都超過桃園的面積是增加的你越防治 我們桃園增加的越多現在桃園43000多公頃 現在增加了多少增加了300公頃等於我們榮科三期的三個這麼大 |
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經費年年增加從2000多萬一直增加到3700多萬年年增加你們越防疫我們桃園增加越多那堂志有什麼防治上要檢討要盤點的經費都給你們了防治的效果沒有出來 |
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其實桃園是積極的積極的反而增加 別的地方都減少了它是因為它建設多我坦白講確實是因為桃園建設很多那其實桃園市政府是積極所以我也要替他講話建設很多因為有土方移動這是跟中央跟地方共同的合作的地方那其實像我剛剛為什麼特別提金門因為其實金門後來有用那個無人機去做頭額 |
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那所以明年也要規劃無人機的預算我們會跟桃園做方法上面的經濟因為其實是有方法那去做其實是有效果那今年是在金門事辦用無人機的方式確實有效果所以有效 那明年開始就要執行我們會跟桃園把這個方法讓他知道那我們投放無人機投放藥物的範圍會不會擴大 |
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基本上其實它是委外所以其實等於是這個委外廠商對於它的投藥的方式第一個第二個效果要去確實去盯那桃園其實對於這件事情是很重視面積很大你不能說只有那個幾公頃而已你要擴大那個面積 範圍 |
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桃園是就那個跟人有接觸的那些都會行的地方先做因為先不要傷害到人第一個那第二個就其他的地方農地也好包括那個他們是可以用無人機去做這個我們會跟桃園來希望說加大對桃園這個地區的噴灑頻率跟範圍要擴大而且桃園面積是增加的因為你原來是12個縣市現在已經減少到10個縣市有沒有其他縣市有增加的部分 |
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目前其实桃园算是比较其他县市没有增加建设很多所以请把桃园设为专案加强的地方好不好好谢谢 |