| IVOD_ID |
166094 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/166094 |
| 日期 |
2025-12-03 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-4-19-14 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第4會期經濟委員會第14次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
4 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
14 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
19 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
經濟委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第4會期經濟委員會第14次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-12-03T10:12:35+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-12-03T10:20:35+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:08:00 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/d5a4ce084af309d6f167fe8d642ec0d04cd0246cdf0bd28b7be3e8fe055fbc133c4597e45d0cb6bb5ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
張啓楷 |
| 委員發言時間 |
10:12:35 - 10:20:35 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-12-03T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第4會期經濟委員會第14次全體委員會議（事由：審查：
本院委員林宜瑾等22人、委員劉建國等16人、委員徐巧芯等17人、委員李坤城等22人、委員廖先翔等19人、台灣民眾黨黨團、委員羅廷瑋等18人、委員郭昱晴等16人、委員林思銘等18人、委員洪孟楷等16人、蘇巧慧等17人、委員吳琪銘等17人、委員陳亭妃等16人分別擬具「動物保護法部分條文修正草案」、委員呂玉玲等16人、委員張智倫等16人、委員葉元之等17人分別擬具「動物保護法第十條條文修正草案」、台灣民眾黨黨團、委員葉元之等17人分別擬具「動物保護法第二十五條之二條文修正草案」、委員林岱樺等21人擬具「動物保護法第十四條之一、第十四條之二及第三十條條文修正草案」、委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等16人擬具「動物保護法第二條及第十條條文修正草案」、委員呂玉玲等16人、委員楊瓊瓔等21人、委員張宏陸等17人、委員郭昱晴等16人分別擬具「動物保護法第二十五條及第二十五條之一條文修正草案」、委員陳亭妃等18人擬具「動物保護法第五條、第二十條及第二十五條條文修正草案」、委員葉元之等17人、委員郭昱晴等21人分別擬具「動物保護法增訂第十四條之三條文草案」、委員葉元之等17人、委員吳沛憶等16人分別擬具「動物保護法第二十五條條文修正草案」、委員游顥等23人擬具「動物保護法第二十五條之一條文修正草案」、台灣民眾黨黨團擬具「動物保護法第二條及第五條條文修正草案」、委員吳沛憶等17人擬具「動物保護法第二十二條之四條文修正草案」、委員賴瑞隆等17人擬具「動物保護法第二條及第六條之二條文修正草案」、委員鄭正鈐等19人擬具「動物保護法第三十二條條文修正草案」、委員羅智強等16人擬具「動物保護法第二十三條條文修正草案」以及委員郭昱晴等19人擬具「動物保護法第二十五條之二及第三十三條之二條文修正草案」、本院委員賴瑞隆等16人擬具「動物保護法第三條及第五條條文修正草案」及本院委員邱若華等16人擬具「動物保護法第二十五條之二、第三十三條之二及第三十三條之三條文修正草案」
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我們請張旗開委員請做巡檔好我們請杜次長 |
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委員好剛剛聲音聽得到嗎 有喔他們一直在陳情 他們很緊張他們知道你們應該明天就要公佈嘛 |
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那現在初步得到消息是說可能還有一年的落日今天執行非常非常重要他們說一定要轉達不要冒險可以的話就立即前面的禁止 |
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因為風險太大了不是只有兩千億的這個經濟的這個損失的這個問題你看一個一個牧場或一個養豬場一發生那個事情全國都受害吃肉吃麵什麼那些都沒得吃了對生活影響也很大那更重要的這幾天西班牙 |
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也爆發了那個非洲豬瘟嘛 你看西班牙 你看那個伊比利斯那個都很高級的 那個火腿都有進口到台灣的 因為都怕不聽話他說他說最有可能的感染是因為什麼那個冷切肉啦 三明治啦 受污染那個食物被弄到垃圾桶裡面去了就被處理嘛所以真的是很危險啊 真的很危險 另外今天我們在審這個動保法動保法的第五條第二項 |
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第二項的第一款聯名訂啊你要給動物的是乾淨的這個食物啊他們那些年輕人給我看那個養豬聯盟給我看那個廚藝裡面那個髒的真的是好不好裡面甚至有些過期的藥都丟到裡面去了所以禁止是非常非常重要的那今天也要討論一個很重要的就是我看你們的政策裡面有提到說 |
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一年如果他又裝了這個GPS或者是這個溫度跟影像的這個監視器你知不知道這要多少錢養豬賺的錢是很辛苦的你叫他現在去裝這個然後只能用一年這是菸往前啊也不最實際啊所以次長我非常明確的你現在的背景我非常明確你明天宣布之前看不能不要再一年了啦就全面立即好不好 |
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老丁 阿娜你被回答了 |
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你盡量去爭取啦 其實不是我嘛你今天聽到所有的立委都是這樣我們早上跟那個養豬協會其實也有說這個事情啦你早上他們一定都這樣說的嘛就是風險當然要儘快把它阻斷掉這個風險冒不得 冒不得不然要再載一輩啦所以我想這個共識是有的那就剛剛這個現在簡報上面這個其實環境部也同意啦因為你說農民一間中這個GPS也好整潔影像系統也好 |
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因為我們現在是加大力道然後鼓勵他趕 儘快轉型他本身就有裝的就好你現在為了這年要去裝那個齁 玩弄錢啦所以就趕緊來轉型這個政策就不切實際啦你如果是一個養豬場你假如現在去裝這個一年後就不能用所以趕緊提供轉型的飼料補貼趕緊對他吃治療而且那個補貼一定要加快 加快力道加大這邊的力道我們來看各國怎麼做啦各國怎麼做啦 |
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日本就是全部都飼料化嘛所以你現在就是一直讓他飼料化這個廚藝都是說他要處理去化過程或者飼料化其實不只最好參考嘛那政府現在做什麼事情你就是能補助力道他再加強好不好這個你要盡量去爭取好 謝謝要去幫他們爭取那另外就像韓國的處理也不錯啊韓國除了飼料之外他有肥料化甚至家庭的那個什麼燃料他都可以用啊可以能源化這生殖能啦對對好OK好來好我另外問一個我好像很重要的事情 |
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我給你談漁民的辛酸漁民啊 昏臨的漁民啊 5年前5年前喔有20多位在雲林的這個漁民啊一天的清純近百位警察湧入雲林的台子港沙雕崙台西的這個汶港到家裡面去搜索用什麼罪名 |
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逮捕了這些居堤的這些漁民可憐的漁民還把他們上銬把他們帶走檢方後來要起訴他們什麼組織犯罪詐欺企裁為什麼要問農業部因為政府在推動綠能的時候業者入侵了他們的傳統的這個漁場結果他們以往變弄壞了 |
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後來政府出面去做協調這本來就要賠嘛 本來就要賠嘛結果出現什麼事情竟然業者去告 檢方還起訴他們咧你看欺民大可憐 我長久在那邊捕魚啊你現在發展綠電結果你割破了漁網政府出面去協調 現在完以後竟然還要被告大部分的純樸的這個移民啊 |
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沒辦法就認罪協商了有三個人我現在唸出他的名字李平順 林青池跟賴品硯他們說我沒罪啊我們就很委屈啊所以我們在力爭到底後來在傅金璿的這個前夕 |
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判決沒有罪今天我為什麼要把這個拿出來做一個非常重要的質詢 大家看一下他們被用組織犯罪跟詐欺起財 大家看一下連媒體喔看下一張媒體都把他們稱為叫什麼利人蟑螂今天我要請次長做幾件很重要這個事情 |
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我們的漁民那麼的純樸他們帶有維生的儀場被入侵了結果他們叫天天不領 叫地地不應現在還好司法還給他們清白了次長你們回去討論一下是不是至少去看這幾個20幾個這個漁民 好不好 |
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農業部第一個很具體的 我很具體的要求去看看這些受害的漁民 這是第一個第二個 當政府在推動綠能的時候如果讓某些漁民或者農民生計上受到很大的衝擊你們要多幫農民跟漁民講講話 好不好 |
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感謝委員跟我們一樣 其實對我們的農民和漁民總是站在第一線 要關心 要跟他們合作我想這個案子我們去了解一下 因為要去關心一下到底發生什麼事 因為我們說台灣的漁民已經靠我們了不然就照顧我們的農民漁民而已 謝謝委員我們台灣的漁民三十二萬五千人 僱傭七萬萬 婚姻三萬萬 |
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我阿凱的故鄉嘉義也有15000人在那裡從事漁業可是他們現在在整個推動那個利潤的過程不管是光電或者是海上這個風機有受到一些衝擊請農業部要多幫忙那我今天這個個案非常非常的明確他們真的很心酸 去看看他們謝謝 |