| IVOD_ID |
166038 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/166038 |
| 日期 |
2025-12-01 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-4-35-19 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第4會期外交及國防委員會第19次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
4 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
19 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
35 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
外交及國防委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第4會期外交及國防委員會第19次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-12-01T12:10:32+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-12-01T12:20:23+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:09:51 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/3f8163f3efc01af7d758a0c7b697f69796d3b95029a3bab617e9c371ce254979bb1958f17482a95c5ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
鄭天財Sra Kacaw |
| 委員發言時間 |
12:10:32 - 12:20:23 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-12-01T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第4會期外交及國防委員會第19次全體委員會議（事由：邀請國防部部長顧立雄報告「軍人薪資待遇結構現行作法檢討及未來調整規劃」，並備質詢。） |
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主席 各位委員 還有請部長請部長部長好 是 政委好我每一次在執行國防部都會強調軍 精良的軍備要專精的國軍這是我一直在強調的部分我看這個國防預算 |
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從2015年3308億 如今每年的調增尤其是這幾年 這幾年調增的非常非常的高2025年已經到7726億 明年9495億 |
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當然還有賴總統已經宣布的行政院也已經將這個特別條例送來了也就是1.25兆這樣的一個國防的預算在這樣的一個情形之下志願役的士兵 使領的薪資待役我們看這個二等兵 |
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從這個一百一十四年四萬兩千多一等兵四萬四千多上等兵四萬五千多大家都知道軍人基本上都要在營區裡面不像一般的公教勞工每天可以回家隨時可以回家 隨時可以請假 |
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軍人不是這樣這差很多所以這個比較是很難比較的如果我們跟這個現在勞工的這個薪資2025年每人每月的經常性薪資四萬七千多都比這個志願役的軍人士兵來的勞工的平均薪資高很多 |
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所以在這樣的一個情形之下這個今天這個國防部的報告一再強調的這是你們今天的報告已完成十項加解的增加第一加解 |
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勤務加級勤務加級包含戰鬥部隊加級網路戰加級戰航管加級 電偵加級三軍儀隊加級空降特戰加級軍閥加級從退伍金從退伍金的計算不包含加級不包含這些第一加級勤務加級 |
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志願役的士兵他跟勞工不一樣 他可以做到65歲 勞工志願役的士兵部長你知道嗎 志願役的士兵可以當幾年10年10年 對不對他10年非得要離開不可除非他念了士官 對不對 當了士官他就要離開 |
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而我們士官有限都有比例都有人數的限制規定所以志願役士兵是最基本最基礎最重要的戰力的部隊增加這些家籍啊對他退伍毫無幫助 |
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有時候他退伍很難找工作 要做農 當勞工勞工要從最基層開始 從頭算所以這些都是需要去考量的部分所以我們在尊仁待遇條例裡面雖然這一次的跟這個沒有關係 但是我是要建議國防部 |
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也可以也應該不是可以應該要提軍人待遇的條例的修正將相關的本縫最主要是本縫嘛能夠給提高有很多的這個軍人不見得有這些家籍啊但是他們一樣要退伍啊所以包括一樣士官軍官也是一樣 |
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他們的這些退伍也只計算本縫這些第一家級勤務家級沒有包含在裡面部長你的意見如何 |
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跟委員報第一個就是說您剛提到那個二兵的那個我們在報告裡面有提到就是說如果你以這個基本待遇來看包括本碰專業家族跟志願家族的話二兵現在來看就這三項的基本待遇是42,150塊 |
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但是他通常會如果再加入戰鬥部隊的話所以我們這次就大幅的調高戰鬥部隊所以他如果加上戰鬥部隊他就會到達五萬四千一百五十塊我只是在說明就是說他一般像二兵啊或者是一兵或者上等兵等等他如果在戰鬥部隊啊他就會有戰鬥部隊加急所以我們之所以會調高戰鬥部隊加急也就在提高這方面的誘因 |
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那志願一加級他就您剛提到的他不會算入退休的時候的部分所以調高志願一加級也是增加他的基本待遇但是就他的退休來看的話並不會 |
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因為志願役加給的增加而提高他的退休的給予那退休的給予的部分剛剛您所提到主要在本碰的部分那本碰的部分因為是軍公教整個一體來考量的所以他有一個整個軍公教的一個整體考量的問題所以就像軍公教加薪那軍人也加薪那本碰的部分也是軍公教一體來考量的 |
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這個重點 但是事實上應該分開來講公教 公教他 我剛一開始講了 他可以隨時每天回家還有加班 他有加班費對不對 他有很多相關的這些另外一種待遇或者是叫 稱為福利所以軍人不一樣 |
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真的不一樣除了增加 你已經增加了這些第一階級 前物階級之外更應該去增加他的本諷沒有 因為他的規定是另外一條法例並沒有跟公務人員的諷刑法跟教師的諷刑法是分開的是另外一個法例 |
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跟委員報告一下 如果您去看他那個我們現在軍文通用的他都會有一個文子的一個子等然後跟我們軍中的這個階級會有一個比序所以你如果我們這個職務是軍文通用我們有時候會用文子 我們有時候會用君子所以在本碰上面來講這個比序上面不可能有過大的一個差異 |
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這個部長沒有什麼不可能要不要做而事實上像剛剛前委員在陳俊逸委員提到我們要增加文職人員的那我們就要這兩回事 文職跟武職的軍人當然你現在是一樣也不對啊所以這個部分是可以分開的就如同公務人員公務人員也有不同喔 |
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所以這個部分技術人員跟公務人員的也不一樣在公務人員裡面一般的公務人員跟技術人員的也不一樣所以這個部分給我們國防部 |
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尤其是部長這邊能夠把它列入一個很重要的一個課題我想我們會來跟行政執意溝通我只要說明就是說在國安惡法實施之後現在很多的這個職務其實都是軍文通用的所以在考量這個軍文通用的情況之下這個本碰的這個調整其實是一個是一個必須要整體規劃的一個事項部長我一開始 |
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好 謝謝 |