| IVOD_ID |
166032 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/166032 |
| 日期 |
2025-12-01 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-4-19-13 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第4會期經濟委員會第13次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
4 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
13 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
19 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
經濟委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第4會期經濟委員會第13次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-12-01T11:46:41+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-12-01T11:54:50+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:08:09 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/3f8163f3efc01af70b2e42b848c6d93bb28663f7a8bd1180b5a5e9a97e51bcb8a11b46a314bfa5925ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
賴士葆 |
| 委員發言時間 |
11:46:41 - 11:54:50 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-12-01T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第4會期經濟委員會第13次全體委員會議（事由：邀請經濟部部長、國家發展委員會主任委員、行政院經貿談判辦公室首長、外交部首長及國家安全局首長就「台美關稅協議之談判方針、進度、爭議事項、雙方可能承諾及台灣產業之影響評估」進行報告，並備質詢。） |
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先請教部長我們確定要用核電了嗎 |
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現在是啟動自主安全檢查啟動了對啟動那他們如果正常一般是一年半對但是還是要跟希望啦因為還是要跟原廠就是西屋公司趕快他們有時間跟我們配合所以那個時間點就是我們自己當然會很快啦但是外國的廠商要跟我們配合我們也盡量希望趕快 |
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所以我們可不可以講就是媒體報導的最樂觀2027年可以重啟河山是不是可以這樣講嗎自主檢查完成自主檢查完成要把這個報告送到河安會那河安會會省多久這個可能是河安會一般來講半年到一年可以了吧 |
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那個我們還是要尊重他們是嘛 所以你現在一年半從現在算一年半 現在2025年底了嘛那一年半就是2027然後所以差不多2027的年底或者2028 剛剛好附上這個這個要總統大選喔 兩邊票都要囉 變這樣子囉 |
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好像不會咧什麼叫好像不會2027不會還是什麼因為2027我們送出這個自主安全檢查碼但是核安會還是要審查他可能花的時間我們就不曉得會多少所以他如果只要他可以了你們就可以啟動是不是這個意思他同意我們當然就可以啟動一般過去多久 核安會一般都剩多久如果從國外的經驗來講的話一般是 |
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一年半甚至有更長所以一年半我們現在來講的話就變成說現在開始就一年半時間自主檢驗所以就是2027的年終再加一年半那等於是2028的年底了差不多這樣子這是順利的狀況順利的狀況好 那麼這個有關於關稅談判這個請教楊總代表 |
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有沒有談到進口的部分是不是要我們美國進來的包括農產品包括汽車全部零關稅有沒有這樣子提到報告委員美國這次談判希望各國能夠大量的進口他的農產品所以他要求所有的國家都是大部分的產品應該要放在降稅的清單上面對嘛 就是是不是零關稅 |
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所以現在幾乎可以確定汽車的進口從美國進來的汽車關稅會大幅降低不排除變零我這樣這個statement對不對 |
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可以嗎因為依照國際管理還沒有簽協定簽署之前不過我們沒有辦法對外說明對嘛可是這個方向是往這個方向嘛我只能說所有的產品項目確實是大家討論的對所以這個農產品啊包括汽車這個我要提醒楊總代表這個 |
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這個農業要受保護喔全世界WTO在談的時候農業基本上都是各國保護的對象我們的農民動輒幾十萬人幾萬人幾十萬人這個要他們的生計要保護喔不然你政府怎麼補貼呢那個其實我們在做這個談判其實你全部林官司要一次到位呢那個這裡面林組建廠 |
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零組件廠有30萬人這個東西都是你要去考慮的要不要一次降為零那個我請教部長汽車一次降為零對我們的產業有沒有影響報告委員因為這個談判還沒有確定我們也不曉得現在是多少但是我同意 |
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汽車對台灣的產業的確就像您講包括零組件產業還是有30萬就業人口所以我們還是要支持我們的汽車產業的發展所以可以這樣講說如果美國要我們就給他大幅調降但是不會調為零不過因為過去的美國車進口到台灣來是比較少的因為大家習慣了未來就會多了在美國製造日本廠日本車又進來了我跟你講 |
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所以他進來有可能不是取代我們國產車是取代其他國家的進口車不是美國車喔是在美國生產的日本車台灣人還是很喜歡的喔但是他會取代從日本進口進來的這個日本車啦那再請教那個楊總代表我們現在馬上又要400億美金要跟他買武器啊這些要不要算入我們的貿易額裡面要不要算 |
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報告委員我剛有報告說在進出恐懼統計裡面我們沒有包括武器其實真的講是軍售沒有啦商售有啦但是現在幾乎都是軍售啦應該這麼講啦報告委員很多的商售現在是試單給我們國內的廠商現在 |
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但是你剛剛回到其他委員提到的是不是兩位跟隨回答一下我就結束了就是確定要對美投資換關稅的條件及不要疊加這樣的講法對不對 |
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我想是整體的談判不是這樣單一的訴說我們關心的就是投資投資多少是另外一件事投資是包括在關稅談判關稅非關稅還有經濟安全貿易環境投資商業條件那我再直接一點美國有沒有要求我們投資換關稅的降低 有沒有 |
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我還是要講這整體的談判是包括投資項目是在商業條件裡面也是在整體的環境裡面最後一小點那個部長你剛有提到說我們跟韓國不一樣不會動用外匯存底那廠商怎麼過去呢廠商錢怎麼過去他把台幣換成美金還是要找央行啊 |
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還是要找外匯存錢換過去啊他是自有資金啊還是要換美金啊自有資金是台幣啊拜託不是政府拿出我們的這個預算出來的但是我們還是要換匯啊你美金還是要減少啊你的美金就送到美國去了啊這個帳是這樣算的啊哪裡有人這樣講說這個廠商給你去那政府幹什麼當然是政府一致談的啊即便廠商過去也是要政府談 |
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還是對啊 對不對 所以這裡面來講4千億看起來就差不多板上釘釘喔 你們也不敢否認喔這個才是 我再強調一遍 現在來講的話這個這樣談下來 我們實在是圓大頭日本的GDP是我們五倍 它只要投資5500億我們只有它五分之一 我們就投資4千億 這是哪門子的生意啊 |
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這樣談下來的話 如果真的投資4千億 喪權辱國啊沒有 廠商他是基於他客戶上訂單的需求而且他過去也會賺錢啊 是這樣的啊為什麼韓國都不會這樣講 過去也賺錢韓國他們不是這樣的模式啊韓國只要3千5百去的話 他們就垮掉了 你都不敢這樣講他們是拿出他們一筆錢出來給美國政府去操作這個金額 我們不是欸 |
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現在沒有時間跟你扯這麼多了反正你們如果同意實現利益就這樣子然後還要進口農產品免關稅然後進口汽車免關稅那是到底上千路過了好 謝謝 |