| IVOD_ID |
166027 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/166027 |
| 日期 |
2025-12-01 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-4-19-13 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第4會期經濟委員會第13次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
4 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
13 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
19 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
經濟委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第4會期經濟委員會第13次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-12-01T11:08:41+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-12-01T11:20:51+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:12:10 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/3f8163f3efc01af78dd434db0a920a9bb28663f7a8bd1180b5a5e9a97e51bcb8057babbb10d0fc445ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
楊瓊瓔 |
| 委員發言時間 |
11:08:41 - 11:20:51 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-12-01T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第4會期經濟委員會第13次全體委員會議(事由:邀請經濟部部長、國家發展委員會主任委員、行政院經貿談判辦公室首長、外交部首長及國家安全局首長就「台美關稅協議之談判方針、進度、爭議事項、雙方可能承諾及台灣產業之影響評估」進行報告,並備質詢。) |
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謝謝主席楊群發言首先邀請這個楊總代表 |
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總代表我們根據媒體的報導11月27號那10月份日本工具機整體的訂單較去年同期增加了16.8%那約是日圓1430億元 |
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尤其日本的工具机的负责人工会的负责人他说他认为美国关税影响已经缓缓所以才能够有这样的成绩但是我们看看我们自己我们看到台湾机械工会理事长庄理事长所指出工具机产业10月份的出口仅有多少1.4亿美元 |
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年減是23.1%主要是受到景氣不佳還有台幣匯率的問題競爭對手強國的一個影響度所以目前我們的出口金額是不及以過往的一半 |
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那在這樣的情況之下我們都知道我們自己工具機它是屬於一個高端精密的一個機種從關鍵的這個零組件到整機產業都是由我們自己自主設計以及我們自己的整合力量這是台灣之光啊但是我們看到長期我們被國際也非常的遵從是最重要世界各國的主要出口國 |
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但是我們看到日本廠商面臨到同樣的市場來相比我們卻因為高關稅而壓縮了我們的毛利卻因為沒有辦法去降低關稅他們現在的一個痛苦苦境所以本期要請教這個嚴重性不只是 |
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老闆接單的問題而且嚴重的影響到我國的就業率嚴重的影響到整個民生的議題整個經濟產業鏈所以本席請教楊代表台灣出口的製造的高額關稅正在削弱我們產業的競爭力你們對於降低對美關稅的談判剛剛從頭到尾本席您聽您都一直告訴我們會有好消息 |
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會有好消息那到底是什麼好消息請做說明 |
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報告委員 我們的我們談判的目標就是要把對德再往下積極調降而且不疊加然後呢23號的這23號的結果我們也希望有多項的關稅也能夠達到最優惠的待遇這就是我們現在談判的重點從頭到尾從4月一直告訴我們到現在每一次的回答就是如此讓我們的產業姆薩薩我們不知道談判的 |
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最黑箱殘判的最慢一拖再拖所以本席好不容易聽到您告訴我們說一定到最後階段那到底什麼時候會告訴我們能夠給我們看到實質的出口的救命效果請做說明委員剛剛你講到這個黑箱我不贊同因為 |
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在第一次的談判回來我們有說明然後院長也接同副院長也跟大院來就說明了此外我們也在我們的請問你去告訴我們的產業到目前為止從談判了這麼久誰知道我們的答案是什麼所以本期針對本期的提問 |
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因為政府本來就是要協助民眾照顧民眾尤其是他們的產業面對到這麼樣的一個關鍵議題所以請問什麼時候沒關係您告訴本席我們這這麼辛苦的這個從4月份開始談判到現在那麼你們告訴我今天告訴我們已經到最後階段請問你們預計何時可以告訴我們的民眾那麼 |
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我們出口救命成效要怎麼樣 什麼時間 內容是什麼盡量的 盡速的把它結束盡量跟盡速是什麼呢 是12月底還是要拖 還是怎麼樣因為我們的產業到目前為止我們不敢戒單 |
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但是也不能不結單因為我們的就業率 我們的勞工都是我們很重要的產業生命力所以你要解決我們的產業啊你可不可以告訴我們您月計是在這個月底還是下個月呢告訴我們方向 答案就您所說的 降低關稅以及232條款 要怎麼樣優惠我們請可不可以給我們一個大約時間點 |
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委員 產業所面臨的困難的不確定性 我們非常了解哇 這個最好了 您非常了解 就是要解決我們的問題啊對 我們要解決問題 但是談判是要給也要拿所以在這個怎麼求取最好的產業的利益 這是我們最重要的我還是回答 我們會緊述快速的 能夠拿到對業者所謂大眾聽到緊述快速 我們還是得不到答案 您請回 |
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那本席要來請教我們的部長工部長台美關稅協議呢即將要出爐我也要謝謝索領軍的總談判代表剛剛說我會盡速會快速那這個方向是爭取對等關稅稅率15%而且不疊加的這個原來的原稅率是不是如此這個方向 |
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接下來232條款也有關於到我們關稅優惠的待遇是不是232條款 是楊總代表在點頭那麼既然你們兩位都說是那何時可以告訴我們你們預估大概什麼時候可以告訴我們 |
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報告委員因為剛剛總談判代表請依照你經濟部長的立場來回答談判代表告訴我們我會盡快進數就從4月份開始每一次的回答都是如此我們當然期待也是盡快的可以那什麼時候呢你們總是有一個KPI嘛因為從4月份到現在那你們告訴我進數盡快是12月底會告訴我們嗎你預估會不會會不會 部長 |
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因為這個我沒有辦法把握你也是沒有辦法把握 你是我們的經濟部長那一月份會不會因為你們都參與其中啊那一月份會不會你們是盡量 我們社會大眾在聽到一個是盡速盡快 一個是盡量所以我們到現在還得不到答案有沒有信心達成 |
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有信心但是沒有時間點是不是如此有沒有信心達成剛剛告訴我們的這個方向是喔 楊總代表我可不可以再請你再上來一下兩位因為告訴我們是盡量因為告訴我們是盡速時間點那剛剛部長回答是有信心那請教楊總代表 |
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是不是朝著232優惠的這個待遇以及這個15%從現在暫時性的20%到這個15%然後不加原來的關稅不疊加這是我們談判目標一定要有信心一定要拿到這個最好的優惠稅率所以你是有信心可以拿到剛剛我們所說的這兩個方向這是我們要達成的目標一定要有信心是信心嘛齁 那所以時間點還是沒有辦法告訴我們 |
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因為談判是雙方的不是一方的因為一拖再拖讓我們的產業不知道該怎麼辦 你知道嗎現在在我們的中部地區我們的工具機 機械類別 扣件等我們不只關稅的問題我們還有一個匯率的問題 |
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所以剛剛本席特別舉了日本工具機的例子人家增加那麼多 我們的成效是如此你們告訴我說 你們都很清楚那我們的產業要怎麼辦 |
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這是本席所要請問的我們的產業到底要怎麼辦我們的產業現在只有什麼 裁員 減薪而且會影響到本來穩定可以勞工收入的去繳他的房貸 現在也有也有 乾脆我停止了繳房貸 |
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你讓家庭的生活都已經受到影響我們到底要怎麼辦去協助產業我們還是有支持方案來支持他們就是說短期間不管是貸款的問題雨仙也不收傘然後貸款的問題最後一個議題我請國發會國發會本席跟你討論在一個月前本席再次請教你我們的傳統產業這麼辛苦您現在的AI導入 |
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轉型但是本席告訴你我現在現有的傳統產業中小企業他的貸款他已經在急救室了你應該先解決讓他可以存活下來啊所以本席具體要求你 你去研議現在他們的貸款你可以怎麼樣補貼他們利息你可以怎樣減可是 |
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上個禮拜本席收到你的這個回函一個月後的研議你們現在結論要怎麼做怎麼補貼 |
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有啊那一個部分還是一樣就是說我們會透過那一個一些銀行的一些機構譬如說像假設譬如說像台企會針對某一些特定的一些中小企業的一些一些信保基金啊他會提供一些利息的補貼這個是新貸新的貸款你舊貸就已經沒有辦法解決了你叫他再去舉新貸 |
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所以本席告訴你的 請聽清楚有沒有利息補貼確認一下 有沒有利息補貼現在在急救室的這些有沒有利息補貼他原來貸款有沒有利息補貼所以本席就告訴你 你只有叫人家再去新貸我一定沒辦法 我要用什麼去貸 |
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部長 國發會主委 請你真正聽聽產業的聲音好不好你到底告訴我 我現在在急救市的這些產業 他的貸款你有沒有地息補貼 你有沒有預計怎麼樣協助他們除了展 會不會展 會不會展還 會不會展還會展延 會展延 會展延 怎麼展延就是他如果 |
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正常繳息的話 就至少可以攢半年攢延半年 利息有沒有補貼利息的話 他如果實際受災的話中小性保在某一個條件之下是可以的在某一些條件之下部長 國外諸位 我拜託你我再一次拜託你你去研議 |
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不要糊弄我們的產業一定要把他救活所以本身要問部長啊你到底要選擇救他還是到底要選擇看他倒你要選擇哪一項當然是救他救他 把方案拿出來 謝謝不過這裡面分為兩點企業是信保基金啊私人的房貸 他在講私人的房貸企業的房貸 |
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我全套私人网站也不没有啦 |