| IVOD_ID |
166021 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/166021 |
| 日期 |
2025-12-01 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-4-19-13 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第4會期經濟委員會第13次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
4 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
13 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
19 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
經濟委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第4會期經濟委員會第13次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-12-01T10:38:49+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-12-01T10:49:16+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:10:27 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/3f8163f3efc01af7a8b211f7d870e9cdb28663f7a8bd11809e47d070529350c942edee24a00ddc365ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
陳超明 |
| 委員發言時間 |
10:38:49 - 10:49:16 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-12-01T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第4會期經濟委員會第13次全體委員會議（事由：邀請經濟部部長、國家發展委員會主任委員、行政院經貿談判辦公室首長、外交部首長及國家安全局首長就「台美關稅協議之談判方針、進度、爭議事項、雙方可能承諾及台灣產業之影響評估」進行報告，並備質詢。） |
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接下來我們請陳昌明委員請做詢答主席好首先有請經濟部長跟台電的陳董事長陳委員早 |
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港部長長我記得郭部長當經濟部長的時候他的口氣不怎麼穩我問他電力不夠了怎麼辦他說要先進的核電機制我們台電我們才會採用我現在想一個問題很奇怪當初反核的包括你 |
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龔部長 包括你曾董事長都是單吃反核的現在怎麼又要開放原來的核電廠 核二核三我常常你們講的做一套 收一套沒有準備先是自己的紙張 今晚你們再緩水你們有沒有對自己的良心交代一下 |
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因為這個經歷的事實我們都經歷過反風車的時候也在你們時代產生的反核也在你們執政的時候產生的今天這國民黨就說了 替你們去開這一條路你們的政策不是很正確嗎 |
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所以我一直在想我們啊你們當政務官的一定要好好想我們的未來我們的前瞻在哪裡事情已經發生了已經給大家過了這麼久都忘了當初反俄化反風車的時候有多嚴重啊 |
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好不好 檢討一下啦不要說這樣悄悄呼呼過去大家都不了解沒有見過這樣的事實包委員 我可以講一下嗎可以啊 可以講一下仔細的時間給我長一點我就給你講一下 |
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因為行政部門還是依法行政我後面有加一句話你聽不懂國民黨真笨被人家打死了還自以為是英雄當初環境基本法的非核也是大院通過的我們就按照那時候只要電力能用在我們台灣產業的發展我都支持啦意識形態不要那麼重就好啦 |
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還是要送立法院 立法院定的法我跟您講 您不能去衝了好不然您管不著 郭部長說他要支持核電我說你管要不要做我是愛護你們才問這個問題的好 謝謝 董事長請回座 部長那現在我們行政院經貿談判室我們的楊總談判台表你先請回座 郭部長 |
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韓總好久不見了看你氣色越來越好你又帶著微笑那你這次談判最主要就是對等關稅20%還有要暫緩那個原來的關稅對不對20%你們希望降到像日本韓國的15%一樣對不對我們希望稅率要繼續調降 |
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還有嘉義的研究因為它是半導體資通的產業都在這個地方我們90%的資操也在這幾個行業裡面好久沒有看到你 |
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我會說我們的政府很奇怪奇怪在哪裡呢我們的經濟部長我們國發會的葉執委以前的劉執委 郭執委你們在談判的時候都不曉得到今天兩個經濟部還有掌管我們財經大機的國發會裡面都不曉得那你這次回來終於又見到你了有沒有帶來什麼好消息 |
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委員好首先跟委員澄清這個談判團隊在第一次4月開始的時候就有對外宣布由政府院長領軍經貿談判辦公室經濟部外交部國防部經濟部外交部以及農業部說什麼要公開的都沒有公開往好的往壞的給我放心一下因為你今天第一次來讓我們真正到底我們要談判的是往良性發展 |
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往正面发展我们是在往正面发展跟美方争取最后能够得到最好的税率外面的报纸大概我们是在日本跟韩国那日本的话投资的时候要5500亿美元等于17.3兆韩国是3500亿美元那以韩国的话投资3500亿美元是占我们GDP的14% |
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如果依照日本的話5500億美元是佔了69%那到底你們現在外面的新聞我們是很緊張的你們做官的人量量啊現在每一個中小企業大家在看你這個消息談判的怎麼樣看你這個政府有沒有夠力有沒有很有尊嚴的跟美國談判到底我們的金額多少 |
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好委員跟您報告一下我們在做這個台灣模式的談判是依照我們產業的結構經濟發展最重要我們都有跟業者溝通諮詢過所以我們的模式不跟日本韓國一樣是按照我們國內的需求大概我們投資的金額要多少我想不到最後的談判結論終點我們大概不會對外宣布這個數字我現在跟你說談到台灣模式 |
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你們是到底是打世界盃還是在掏空台灣出賣台灣絕對不是掏空台灣你們每一個官員都講我們要打世界盃其實憂心忡忡我們不是聽官方的報告我們是天下之憂而憂後天下之樂而樂其實這裡面的陷阱大概很多那我請教你這個可能部長比較曉得你在旁邊一下我們是老朋友 |
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部長再請工部長你看美國的川普總統跟輝達的黃振輝董事長兩個我們在美國第一屆第一次最高階的金銭在美國生產出來的我現在提醒時間快要到了 |
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川普总统讲50%的才能要在美国50%的才能会在台湾或者世界各地您常不常说我啊美国霸权主义你不晓得啊他要难怪他当然每一个人为他国土的那个国安的问题会五十五十你台湾没存下面 |
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還有第二件事情發生沒有問題拿不走政治有什麼拿不走的叫你拿乖乖拿台積電日本把台積電的機師出去結果那家公司的拿那個資料公司老闆是Rapid的董事還是董事長 |
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日本已經先進 它二奈米製作成功明年就要正式生產咱大家洋洋得意再來咱台軍的那個樓前副總到英特爾去你們都不敢發聲我不知道那個政府安裝那麼縱容美國的經濟間諜日本的經濟間諜 |
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你拿過來我都曉得你們在辦在檢查單位在辦這個非常危險的徵兆你把資金拿過去你把產業鏈帶過去你把人才帶過去台灣剩下什麼美國川普總統還一句話要求台灣的電子產業要替美國培訓技術人員 |
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你整個往旁邊 還在說我打世界盃我們自己奔不下去啊 你算什麼台灣如果以現在的政治地位 不是說我在批評啊其實我們搖一搖 兩邊都要震動啊為什麼你們腿那麼軟 那很害我不希望台灣的產業在你們執政黨的時代把這整個掏空掉 |
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台灣真的危險從2016年開始這個台商投資台灣是大幅的增加投資台灣你是大幅的增加當然既是在這邊現在大幅的增加但是以後拿過去的話要怎樣大幅增加還是持續大幅增加照目前的規劃不是投資你講的現在大幅增加馬上就大幅的減少了不會啦什麼不會 |
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你又撇了夫人又責病 整碗飯給人家 又把你放在那裡台灣一無所有 國務長 你從國安會上我真的很擔心 這種徵兆出來哪幾個國家我自己好了 我再關於台灣生死記得這些話 政治很現實的 好不好 謝謝 |