| IVOD_ID |
166011 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/166011 |
| 日期 |
2025-12-01 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-4-19-13 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第4會期經濟委員會第13次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
4 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
13 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
19 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
經濟委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第4會期經濟委員會第13次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-12-01T09:39:34+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-12-01T09:47:51+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:08:17 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/3f8163f3efc01af70a9f37963f3fb449b28663f7a8bd118051ffdcaedd4f391a07496cb2378364c25ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
邱議瑩 |
| 委員發言時間 |
09:39:34 - 09:47:51 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-12-01T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第4會期經濟委員會第13次全體委員會議（事由：邀請經濟部部長、國家發展委員會主任委員、行政院經貿談判辦公室首長、外交部首長及國家安全局首長就「台美關稅協議之談判方針、進度、爭議事項、雙方可能承諾及台灣產業之影響評估」進行報告，並備質詢。） |
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謝謝主席我請一下部長我們再請工部長部長早部長請教一下現在的談判進度如何應該是說大致上下一次什麼時候會再過去 |
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好像兩邊還在談時間那您現在可以對外公布的兩邊現在磋商的氣氛跟進度是怎麼樣還是這個是要請這個臺灣代表來說明好我們請 謝謝 |
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謝謝委員我想美方從我們4月開始跟他談判的時候都非常的肯定我方的務實積極的態度所以談判的氣氛是正向的發展所以現在談判的氣氛是正向的發展那您覺得國內在對於我們談判的這個研判上面是不是也是正向的肯定正向的發展呢 |
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我想我們從當初的4月1號開始32降到暫時的稅率20的部分我想國內的企業是肯定但是國人希望我們再加速談判能夠把20往下調漲且不疊加 |
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製造一個穩定的環境這是我們努力的方向那我要進一步請教如果二十不疊加能夠再往下調降這當然是我們最期待的方式我們看到臨近的包括像日本他們承諾 |
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日本政府承諾要有5500億的美元投資以期換到他們的關稅能夠降到15%南韓承諾有3500億的美元投資也期待他們的關稅能夠降到15%那我們現在的暫時性關稅是20% |
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對外呢有媒體預估政府大概會希望能夠有這個民間企業或者是我不知道是民間企業去投資有400億美元去投資美國那當然在這個過程裡頭其實就有引來了很多在野黨的批評他們說 |
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這個政府拍板了12兆台幣的財政支出然後呢 他說我們政府是散財同子如果要這個12兆去投資美國呢每一個人可以領50萬這是黑箱作業 這是賣國作業我請教您怎麼看 |
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你認同這個說法嗎報告委員我不認同這個說法因為這一個4千億應該是揣測的而且首先我們也沒有互相作業因為任何一個談判的細節沒到定案我們沒有辦法對外說明所以金額尚未議定 |
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四千億是揣測所以那您認為未來所以這個也不是政府去投資嘛這個應該是企業去投資嘛是不是來 部長您對著麥克風講這樣才能夠有記錄啊您的搖頭點頭記錄不到這個不為所謂的十二兆什麼財政支出沒有這個東西啊因為我們剛剛提到台灣模式就是台灣的企業自主性的他要貼近客戶有的訂單然後也確定可以賺錢那政府就是幫忙兩邊的政府幫忙把這個事情促成 完成 |
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提供很好的投資環境跟條件出來那這個是我們的我們不是像美國不是像日本跟韓國就有一筆錢拿去那邊做財政投資不是這樣的所以這個我覺得還是要對外說明清楚當然會有 |
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有人會惡意炒作就說這個是我們政府的財政支出去投資4000億美元實際上並不是這樣這個大概都是企業自主的投資但是相對的我們希望企業去投資美國的同時經濟部對於國內的這些產業的保護措施也要同步的進行我知道你們現在有在進行中但是這個進行的幅度跟進行的廣度 |
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是不是能夠適時的讓這個我們的傳產或者是在國內的企業能夠非常清楚的了解政府對他們的照顧我想我們一方面要保護我們的傳產保護我們的台灣的產業一方面我們又希望能夠把關稅降到大家可以負擔可以接受的範圍之內其實政府非常的辛苦但是我要提醒一點任何的談判都不應該在談判之前你就先出底牌 |
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你同意我的看法嗎所以這個談判的底牌會是怎麼樣除了多方磋商以外我認為經濟部跟我們談判辦公室應該是要確實掌控甚至要以台灣優先不是只有台灣模式而是要以台灣優先來保護台灣的產業這個會是我們的第一要務這個我也要請經濟部能夠確實的注意 |
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第二點 那個談判辦可以先回部長我還要請教一個比較時事的問題最近我們有非常多的討論關於有一個叫做瑞幸咖啡這個是在中國成立的一個咖啡大型連鎖店它即將來台灣插旗台灣的市場聽說首家的門市就會落腳在台北市的南京復興商圈那它的徵才廣告也已經開始了 |
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那我看部長您這幾天對外的發言都說這個是一個代理商他不是中資因為我們沒有接獲瑞信他來申請我們國內投資的這個申請案是沒有的所以他是用代理的方式透過代理商的方式然後在台灣插旗台灣的市場準備在台灣的落腳但是如果 |
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這個我覺得 經濟部您還是要去持續的觀察啦過去我們一直講中資中資轉新加坡資轉港資現在換一條路他直接找台灣的公司直接代理 |
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那代理是一個問題這個是你們要去觀察我現在要談的是資安的風險他在美國這家這個瑞幸咖啡在美國要求他們的所有的點餐一定要下載他的APP那這個APP跟我們一般在餐廳的這個掃QR Code的點餐不太一樣 |
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這個APP還會收集他的個人資料聯絡方式 定位 交易記錄 電子郵件跟簡訊甚至他的網頁瀏覽記錄等等的敏感資訊都會透過這個APP去收集這個已經遠超過一個點咖啡 買咖啡 買一杯咖啡所需要得到的資訊了這個我想要請經濟部是不是能夠密切掌握這件事情 |
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或者你們現在有沒有掌握會 如果這個代理商他是屬於本國的企業他雖然代理國外的但是我們會要求他要完全要符合我們國內的個資法相關規定我們也要求他所有的個資必須要留在台灣 |
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你要求他的個資留在台灣但是他如果掃這個app download這個app很多資訊就直接回傳回去了啊你怎麼要求他留在台灣這個是我要求你們要去實際的調查了解掌握 |
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你要求他留在台灣但是這個東西透過雲端就回去了啊你要求他也沒用啊我們會了解他的這個各自相關怎麼蒐集怎麼運用好包括他是不是跟在美國一樣強制要Download他的App才能去點餐而他的這個App的設計裡面是不是有我剛剛提到的這一些東西這個我是不是也能夠請經濟部或者是你們跟行政院的資安辦能夠充分的密切去掌握這件事情可以可以好嗎好 謝謝 |
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謝謝 |