| IVOD_ID |
165964 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/165964 |
| 日期 |
2025-11-27 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-4-19-12 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第4會期經濟委員會第12次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
4 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
12 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
19 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
經濟委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第4會期經濟委員會第12次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-11-27T10:24:26+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-11-27T10:33:07+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:08:41 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/0f4b7ea39581585965b99e35e35d5f33bd93e540dfe0040e432a9691d58560b24cf22a73b69dd6195ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
鄭天財Sra Kacaw |
| 委員發言時間 |
10:24:26 - 10:33:07 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-11-27T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第4會期經濟委員會第12次全體委員會議（事由：審查：
一、 本院委員賴瑞隆等17人擬具「森林法部分條文修正草案」案。
二、 本院委員陳冠廷等18人擬具「森林法增訂第八條之一條文草案」案。
三、 本院委員蔡易餘等17人擬具「森林法部分條文修正草案」案。
四、 本院委員馬文君等19人擬具「森林法增訂第八條之一條文草案」案。
五、 本院委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等18人擬具「森林法第二條及第十五條條文修正草案」案。
六、 本院委員伍麗華Saidhai‧Tahovecahe等17人擬具「森林法第十七條之二及第五十六條之三條文修正草案」案。
七、 本院委員盧縣一等16人擬具「森林法第九條之一及第十五條條文修正草案」案。
八、 本院委員游顥等25人擬具「森林法增訂第八條之一條文草案」案。
九、 本院委員黃仁等29人擬具「森林法第十五條條文修正草案」案。
十、 本院委員羅廷瑋等16人擬具「森林法第二條、第十七條之二及第五十六條之三條文修正草案」案。
十一、 本院委員陳亭妃等16人擬具「森林法部分條文修正草案」案。
十二、 本院委員林岱樺等16人擬具「森林法增訂第八條之一條文草案」案。
十三、 本院委員楊瓊瓔等26人擬具「森林法第二條及第十五條條文修正草案」案。
十四、 本院委員張雅琳等19人擬具「森林法部分條文修正草案」案。
(第十三及第十四案如未接獲院會交付審查之議事處來文，則不予審查) (僅詢答)） |
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政天才委員質詢謝謝部長主席有請部長我們請部長 |
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來 委員好部長好 這個研究法第19條特別規定這個在研究民族第7研究民族第7採集野生植物及菌類是可以以傳統文化自用來去申請那我們的這個第二條研究法第二條也特別定義了這個研究民族第7 |
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那森林法第15条这个现行的条文是规定森林位于原住民族传统领域所以跟延基法是原住民族第七森林法15条是写原住民族传统领域所以这个必须要修正在还没有修正之前 |
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本席透过延期法34条你们也做了解释就是原住民族传统礼仪就是用原住民族地区是做了解释所以现在执行上都是用原住民族 |
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第七所以这个法必须要配合修正这个野保法都配合修正了都改为原住民主第七了所以这个部分所以这个今天能够安排审查非常谢谢赵伟所以这个我们的依法行政来把它修正那现在是这样好 |
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还没有修正这个森林法之前那因为已经依延基法34条的规定来做了解释所以国有林林场务处分规则第14条虽然森林法还没有修正可以先修正因为这里面的第14条的第7款第8款它的部分的 |
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依前向第七款 第八款 第十一款才是以原住民保留地内更收小更收小 传统领域很大保留地更小所以尤其是尤其是我们平地原住民我们居住的地方不是原住民保留地 |
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三地相二基本上是那我们平地相不是所以这个部分都要配合原基法三十四条既然已经做了做了森林法的解释所以这个部分也要配合现在就可以修正甚至在试用上现在就可以解释试用所以这个部分农业部可以去处理吗这个应该可以好谢谢 |
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好接下來這個我也有提這個修正動議這個漂流木的部分我們到時候在逐條討論的時候逐條討論的時候我們再一起再處理好我們現在這個就請部長因為這個跟那個水保署水保署有關係了這個我在 |
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今年的7月22號有到義理召開協調會也去了會刊就針對這兩個就請這個農業部水保署這邊積極的來處理好不好我們會去現刊以後看看怎麼處理我們再來這個部分之前都有去勘查過了好接下來還是要談到這個馬太安溪菸澀府我們看這個 |
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因為9月23號的這個潰壩一流造成這個光復鄉鳳林鎮以及這個萬隆鄉造成這樣的一個重大的災情而這個下游的就是經濟部所管轄的部分他們積極的在做相關的提防 |
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河床的疏浚堤防要加固加高都在做但是他們還是擔心上面所以他們現在除了現有的堤防之外加固加高之外他們現在規劃第一個規劃要擴大這個河川七一線第二個要再做第二道的堤防就會 |
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就会使用到农民的土地乡亲就觉得说我已经受害了我现在土地又要被你征收会这样的一个情形所以源头还重要源头很重要 |
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在这样的一个情形之下马太厌西厌色五现在的现况跟9月23号的时候已经差很多了在这样的情形之下既然是差那么多已经小很多了但是这个崩塌地然后那个水每天要让它流而不是积水在那边 |
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比如说真的是没有流水了什么要让这个水流光要把它流光这个就是要挖就是要挖按照你们的规划要从光复灵道上去我一直在说了这个对山林的会有很大的影响了而且要花14亿花14亿 |
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這樣的一個情形是不是值得一定只有這個方法嗎所以我在之前諮詢的時候還有提出的這個立法院特別預算審查的主決議就是希望你們趕快找專業的團隊國內外的專業團隊能夠去解決 |
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譬如說工群總隊曾經在2022年他們就用直升機吊掛這個挖土機上到另外一個地方類似像這樣的一個情形有沒有可能在這樣的一個地區裡面能夠去處理這個部分 |
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一定要積極的來處理去解決用最快的方式是最好不然現在鄉親都不敢重建了 |
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萬一又潰壩又溢流是這樣部長是不是這個要積極的做我跟委員說明一下就是要怎麼樣到上游去做整治的部分除了林道以外也有一個方案是從溯溪上去的部分現在最重要的問題是邊波本身的不穩定度那之前沒有辦法用機具用吊掛的方式是因為土質鬆軟的部分那個種機具一下人下去就會陷下去了嘛 |
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486.545 |
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489.931 |
| transcript.whisperx[19].text |
然後所以我們等訊息過後我們就會評估更多的方案 |
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491.127 |
| transcript.whisperx[20].end |
518.873 |
| transcript.whisperx[20].text |
最怕的是地震或是大豪雨把旁邊的邊坡又 又崩下來的時候如果在那個時候施工的話就會影響到施工人員安全所以這個都是我們在考量的一個最安全的方案我想我們一定會努力去做這個部分一定要積極的做才能夠根本的去解決整個的這個災害地區 好不好好 謝謝 謝謝 謝謝 謝謝曾天才委員資訊 謝謝部長 |