| IVOD_ID |
16596 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Full/1M/16596 |
| 日期 |
2025-04-16 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-3-15-10 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第3會期內政委員會第10次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
3 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
10 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
15 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
內政委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第3會期內政委員會第10次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Full |
| 開始時間 |
2025-04-16T08:31:51+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-04-16T11:20:00+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
02:48:09 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://h264media01.ly.gov.tw:443/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1M/eeffa975d6a1e3ea9d3c58e6035bf0894eb3296cd325b2f44af80a8cb003b9ba4bb327fc9bda7fd95ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-04-16T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第3會期內政委員會第10次全體委員會議（事由：邀請客家委員會主任委員率同所屬及財團法人客家公共傳播基金會董事長列席報告業務概況，並備質詢。） |
| 委員名稱 |
完整會議 |
| 委員發言時間 |
08:31:51 - 11:20:00 |
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立法院第十一屆第三會期內政委員會第九次全體委員會議議事錄時間一百一十四年四月十日星期四下午一時三十八分至一時五十五分地點紅樓二零二會議室出席委員麥玉珍委員等十四人練習委員鍾嘉斌委員等七人練習官員內政部常務次長吳唐安記相關人員法務部參事廖江縣財政部國庫署工股管理組科長洪培明 |
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衛生福利部社會救助及社公司檢任視察王彥琴行政院主計總處公務預算處專門委員李培元主席牛召集委員許庭報告事項宣讀上次會議議事錄決定確定討論事項繼續審查委員丁學忠等16人委員張家俊等29人拟據委員劉建國等16人委員徐宇貞等18人及委員羅廷偉等17人分別拟據殯葬管理條例第21條之一條文修正草案 |
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审查委员洪梦凯等17人及委员鲁明哲等17人16人分别拟据殡葬管理条例第21条之一条文修正草案决议殡葬管理条例第21条之一条文修正草案等7案第21条之一修正通过条文修正如下第21条之一个指辖市县市政府列册之低收入户中低收入户使用指辖市县市或城市政事 |
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或鄉鎮市所經營或委託民間經營代理代管之下列公立殯葬設施免收使用管理相關費用一火化廠二骨灰海存放設施前項骨灰海存放設施免費之標準由直轄市縣市政府定之二並按審查完據領據審查報告提報院會討論不需交由黨團協商並推請牛召集委員許庭於院會討論時做補充說明宣讀完畢 |
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好請問各位委員上次會議意思錄有無錯誤或遺漏好那意思錄確定那我們繼續進行本日議程報告事項請宣讀邀請客家委員會主任委員率同所屬及財團法人客家公共傳播基金會董事長列席報告業務概況並備質詢宣讀完畢 |
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本日議程所列報告事項合併詢答我們現在介紹在場委員及列席官員張志倫委員王美惠委員黃婕委員蘇巧惠委員我們客委會主委、股秀會主委 |
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好 我們財團法人客家公共傳播基金會的董事長陳邦振還有客家電視台的台長向聖妍好那我們接下來請客家委員會股主任委員報告請簡短 |
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主席 各位議員 大家好 各位同事來到VNV 內處合格VNV的業務來做報告部委會發展有兩大風向 第一是支持合作合好成分第二是努力達成共合的反應113年 全國合格日 第100 |
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用槍眼來做主 為主來判論壇 同時呢槍眼參議會主席來判的七十三年次 七十三重視的英文法庭 讓我今年我們企圖的重範學中 學中提供重申 希望在入選 本議選的槍中議員 每一年一百萬的創業補助金 建立槍中議員返鄉支持的體內 |
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人們的經驗也提拔參加台北的國際署站來推廣國土基盤接下来就跟大家報告哈佛市的重點時針,提及在延續推動促進主流法 |
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永續創新客家文化我們持續推動各個客家發展計劃在當天在漢堡的行政院作為中央普惠堆客家相關市政的建基我們持續推動提防的客家發展計劃在擴展體提防業業文化永續發展 |
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聽到他們的說話,我們也將強硬的意見建立在不同的平台今年初,在成立第一屆強硬諮詢VMV在國台也將強硬公共答應交通的機制第三,在數位科技運用部分主要是在我們行業的推廣,推廣經濟部的懲罰 |
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他向苗栗學院在113年製作讀研的主題課程本期一線的顧問研員來送課公務的行業課程我們在學徒方面能夠改善自己的思考、名出、胖額來翻譯成行業實驗權來增加行業學徒的長途 |
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此外,我們在行業實質部分內擴大行業實質的培訓,透過輔助太學來開設各種文化的課程,並在各種文化體育和教育發展。 |
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在內,我們也正經在行政議員使用的機會來懲罰民眾的共和的意識行政議員認證保養費除了19歲以下民眾不是保養費以外,國泰體、全國的國營業員、教育營業員及軍警營業員都有另一部署的範圍 |
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再透过行业家庭的法律来增进人民共和国的用意感。其次,我们会来强化各种的经济能量,提升生涯的竞争力。 |
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去年我們頒發的代表洛杉磯學總領養育團養育証件今年要發行核卡幣本頁的創企學總提供移民的規劃本學館營所的費用 |
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再來,我們享受各種主體的遊行,本國泰的各自的年間度我們提供的各種遊行精髓、藥材和北泰各種品牌,送到天上、天下的戰術平台本國內外的遊客,都在各種地方參與旅行 |
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此外,今年,國會會與自由茶協會進行反對共同體制、浪漫對三選戰及美歷選六對戰,大規模的合格國際聯盟研討。 |
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以及在核食品牌部分,我們在天衣也能做很多料理,非常黑心的食材,例如有些廚師參與過節的賽事。第二,我們在國泰,有種沖繩的飯金洋蔥,比方說大蔥,有種沖繩法交流中心,在石鹹,有種核糖的開釀。 |
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目前全国有20年包括的特殊民国评定定甚至认识的平衡和各种的发展再来推动各种的法庭级本要求证的图书公司去审计在六大地区特别是北部地区中央有14个案例在核心下来 |
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在這裏,在歷史空間部分,我們保存了各種歷史的脈絡,從天方上成立的輔導團,來聽述歷史記憶,保存下來。 |
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第六,我們推動強硬的公共參議,持續與巴黎縣市推動學大文化的發展計劃,以及跟目前的白宮政府站除了有我們陸有同路以外和增加的強硬, |
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推动强硬参与批评议文的管法,我们同协议院教育部与人民区共同来判断,让我们的强硬议语服务员以及我们的规划判断,让我们的学校校长教育员来提供学校校长的国际思想和采取的管法。 |
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再來,我們在醫生體年代,生涯的盤理,兩人應用全球學及文化分析,在生涯的盤理,兩人應用學及貢獻獎,特別學及師傅專業獎項的表揚,來表揚去年後的青春認識。第六點, |
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我們要發展合作的英文能量 去強行合作文化的加持強行的送食規範 邀請無窮人士隊來展現出舒服我們在台灣 |
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另外,在香港,強硬為主體判斷白衣人的白衣人避嫌,共有60多位公司部門判斷香港人的法律。 |
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在內,我們求願在12月12月12月的判例和交流規模之下目前,到求願日子已經突破1萬人參與,這等於我們提交的部分創作最多認輸、推輸也最多的營業。113年的首當夕在頭營,但其內營是有設備創建。 |
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第一,在養殖營部分,我們可以與天使合資植博和養殖作品第二,在國際外的國土中心,我們可以持續進行 |
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在這裏,我們也希望有強硬的英文意識和英文學在邁向國際我們在推辦和英文學作家創作計劃 |
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又跟國際台北無法公園合作出版,推廣要求區議員的替代參加台北國際署站累計現場參觀人員有6萬人員,名錄中有9萬人員 |
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來參與我們在營業思想部分行業主流的思想、用業成分是我們的目標三月十五日張潘赫在高雄的旅行中心舉行演唱會也會跟台灣幾個太平的營業者持續合作 |
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為了提供強硬反響,我們有請三位強硬基督徒的寶土基督徒的生命故事,為了重返他們的期望 |
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在香港除了台三線外,陸對台九線,我們一起投入、投稿和洋相的部分來跟大家收集 |
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在台灣各種所有的有關核桿文化和年齡的故事再來我們南北核桿文化延期保有出權文化保存的也要加持故事有文革方面的加油研究、電訊、教育、英文等等推行核桿文化的推廣和產生 |
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以及我們跟國際 國際 國際有關的保護署在一起合作 交流以及跟文化資產部署跟調查的工作在一起 到今年一百二十四年為止 入床的感染數有一萬六千兩千還有為了參加國際的 |
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經濟戰費提升和博物館的能見度不僅對國際、對國內也強有我們採取的職業合作推出先鋒隊16站和T-62陸隊運動費的營運站 |
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採取民眾和學童的因素合作最後我要感謝本費、創企、支持和創司提供合作的發展包括親自教育、搶眼的營造的培育也都在保存和研修和文化創業的力量推動和合作 |
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創新企劃希望分享的強中研的支持力量做得成就其他也成就沙飛我們會用勇氣創新 求強求好為主體持續推動國家希望工廠 |
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第三,我們在問議的六十幾年中,我們鼓勵提前,也感謝提前的堅持和努力的行程,我們會持續地投入家庭和社會的推廣。希望接下来,做得跟大家共同走一條好路。以上報告,簡單報告,請國民委員職高,祝福大家身體健康,萬事以儀,順利向大家安持下去。 |
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好 其他單位的報告請委員自行參酌並刊登公報那現在進行選答委員諮詢前原例做幾點宣告每位委員發言時間本會委員五分鐘必要時的延長兩分鐘非本會委員五分鐘上午十點半截止發言登記今天就不處理臨時提案各位有沒有意見 |
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沒有齁好那我們現在進行詢答請登記第一位的蘇巧惠委員發言好謝謝主席我們請主委好請主委 |
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我們覺得地方上真的是很不錯廣受歡迎的政策就是我們的博工照庫站 |
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主委現在博工照護站的發展情況如何?現在的數量有多少?這幾年有增加嗎?感謝委員 白宮照護站的學費體體放鬆有關從早上到早上的一間養護本農園及種植 做得有更快樂的氣氛 更健康的氣氛 |
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目前今年556宗被投擲 今年517宗被投擲 明年都省種沒錯 那我看妳看這個妳剛剛說到的博工照護站目標很清楚嘛 就有健康促進 親迎共榮 老幼同樂那甚至它的健康 它的對象健康雅健康的客庄銀髮族 |
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都現在會以博工照護站做據點這我們覺得非常的樂見那我也想請問主委您剛剛說這個政策既然廣受歡迎那誰可以來申請什麼樣的資格可以來申請成為或者設立博工照護站聽人家的提防 |
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只要他那個西籍據點他就可以去申請阿提歐哥菸絲政府主體是地方政府嘛申請的主體是地方政府但條件的話看過去我們看到這個條件的部分其實不是不是條件的部分你看你114年度推廣博工照護站的實施計畫我也很高興看到你過去是只有在客家文化重點發展區 |
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所屬的地方政府可以來申請嘛這就是所謂的客庄有客庄的地方政府那你這一次呢是首次名列把這個客家社區也條列到了這個申請的文字當中那客家社區顯然就是跟客庄客家文化重點發展區是不太一樣的了嘛對不對所以是放寬這是一個放寬 |
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好所以我們現在有客庄的地方政府有客舍的地方政府都可以來申請好那也就是你剛剛說的可能就是因為這個條件放寬了所以您剛剛也說了這幾年的據點不斷的增加因為客庄的話是以鄉鎮區和人口的狀況來說所以我們這麼幾年來其實客庄不太有變動啦就是那幾個鄉鎮可是客舍也一直在增加 |
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所以連帶著我們的博工照護站因為可以申請的人多了嘛所以通過的也就多了我這個邏輯到這裡都沒有問題吧某問題完全衝好沒有問題來那接下來就是我要請問的主委你知道我們新北新北現在有幾個客庄有幾個客舍有幾個博工照護站嗎 |
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目前 客庄 有嗎 我們新北有客庄嗎有有有 客庄 我們新北有客庄英國可以說 不是整個區是客庄 它是一個小庄頭我們年輕人 超過50%的小庄頭 它就是黑庄所以你的鄉鎮的話 是用什麼樣的小庄頭 |
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你的樁頭是用什麼樣的形證詞春禮春禮的部分的話來…我們來看一下你的這春禮的部分是褐色 |
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你的客庄 客家文化重點發展區的話是客家人口三分之一以上 鄉鎮市區所以你的意思是說包括市 包括區也都可以包括市 包括區 它那個三分之一以上三分之一嘛 其中那個客家重點發展區我們今天 從維園也過程中 我們今天翻譯國台 國台的那一體 媒體的那個三分之一的客家 |
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我替你做了一個整理我們的這個客庄和客舍 |
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它的申請條件它的認定條件其實有兩個嘛一個是區域範圍就是您剛剛在說的地理狀態嘛客庄的話是鄉鎮市區客舍的話是用村裡但是會沒有問題嘛對不對然後下面是客家人口比例這個比例的話一個是三分之一的話這麼高額的話那它是客庄那你剛剛說客家人口三成以上或講客語的長者二分之一以上這個是你們認定客舍的條件不是這樣嗎 |
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這個部分沒有問題嘛所以在這兩個條件之下我剛剛的問題是問你說新北市有客庄或客舍嗎據我們的了解其實因為新北市的客家社團客家人口雖然有67萬人 |
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但是他非常的散居他非常的散居所以這種散居的生活型態回歸到後面剛剛的認定方式我們一共就是新北市的三峽區的五料理可以被符合認定 客設他不要說客裝了 他連客設 |
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客舍都是非常對我們來講散居的太嚴重所以很難認定嘛所以我剛剛第一個問你說新北有客庄嗎你跟我講有我是非常疑惑我心中有問號那我們連客舍都這麼難了就這麼一個而已啊所以這是我們新北的狀況好那所以我再問你 |
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主委我們新北有博工照護站嗎這樣下去看他做的會省錢但是沒有省錢因為我們可以申請的就一共只有一個村裡而已啊所以這個村裡沒有去申請的話當然新北的博工照護站零啊 |
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0啊 這麼好的政策最多客家人口我們僅次於桃園啦我們67萬是僅次於桃園是全國第二多客家人的地方耶是最多人口的直轄市客家社人口第二多的直轄市結果我們一站博工照護站都沒有你不覺得這個狀況很奇怪嗎 |
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所以我們會認為這個問題到底是宣傳不夠力讓你剛剛比如說你剛剛自己也在這邊照就是說我的申請條件我們是要客庄要客社才能來申請但是我們的現在條件有放寬 |
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你講了很多 可是看起來我幫你整理成表格之後沒有啊 我們新北能夠符合的很少啊 少之又少啊所以我們連申請條件都過不了關了更不要說成立了嘛 對不對主委 所以如果是這樣 我認為 我也要求您是不是應該再想辦法來調整去申請博工照護站的條件 |
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讓散居人口市的地區也有機會加入這麼好的政策主委你的意見我們回到剛剛第一頁照顧他的目的的那個部分 |
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你可以看到嘛既然它的目的是這麼好的狀況的話其實我認為正因為我們是散居的生活型態所以如果能夠多幾個博工照護站的話它就可以成為地方的新文化傳承中心啊新文化中心對我們客家來講其實才是真正重要的事情你可以規模縮小嘛然後預算 |
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預算看是大家均分還是怎麼樣狀況不過我覺得你現在很可惜因為你的預算現在被刪動這麼多光是博工造戶站就被刪了700萬了我看現在今年的新增的造戶站新增的造戶站大概也都必須預算要減少了吧主委今年的博工造戶站預算有減少嗎有減少 每個站點平均減少17% |
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是啊 我們就已經在少經費了 這樣煽動下去連博工照護站經費都沒有 更不要輪到我們來申請了所以主委我明確的在這裡要求您對散居型態的如新北市應該怎麼增設博工照護站提出規劃 我希望在會期結束前能夠有您的想法 各位會的想法 可以嗎 |
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好請張志倫委 |
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好謝謝主席各位委員各位官員大家早是有請谷主委請主委總理也好好謝謝谷主委安子森那我相信今天是我們這個客委會的質詢那很多相信很多委員針對博工照護站有諸多的問題那本期是認為博工照護站就我的理解是一個非常好的政策 |
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他主要就是讓我們剛剛主委特別有講的C級的照護點讓一些長輩跟有機會到一些我們的這些聚會的社區的聚會中心然後大家一起來互動照顧他們的身體那麼希望說這個課語的部分一定要能傳承那大家會講課語我們很多的 |
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照護站的部分那也可以帶他們的孫子這個孫女然後一起來讓我們的客羽可以發展那其實大家都有講到說現在這個博工照護站多設於這個客家文化重點發展區那我本席在的這個新北市是屬於這個非重點發展區那所以意思就是說新北市有67萬的人口那剛剛也提到說新北市這個過去以來比較 |
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有現在只有一個這個依照現在的新的規定來講只有一個三峽區五寮里可以是符合設這個客家社區所以說雖然說現在我們有把這個重點發展區以及非重點發展區多一些可以設這個博工造物站的一些的據點可是現在新北市的部分還是沒有辦法來協助那我再簡單講一下 |
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那以這個重點發展區來講的話是這個三分之一以上的客家人口就可以來設立那非重點發展區現在我們是把它從鄉鎮市區把它再下放成一些村裡可以來使用可是現在的問題點是說我們還是要有超過50%甚至是比過去重點發展區更多比例的人口數才能設這個 |
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這個不公照護站那這樣子造成新北市有點困難來設立是不是可以請教主委是不是可以鬆綁既有的50%的語言使用門檻 |
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感謝委員的關心 要補充我們肥豪及同事有請鑽研學生在幾個年頭可能在總委員所提及屬委員所提及要封款 也要判斷他在多次提起不適中 當然不適中 但是符合條件 |
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好 謝謝主委因為上個會期其實我在這邊就已經有跟主委請教了那是不是這一次因為上個會期有請教這次還沒有拿到答案是不是大概有要多少時間可以提供一個資料書面資料給我們應該說三張頁 |
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一個月之內嗎三個月三個月之內那是拜託盡快可以處理那第二個也要請教主委這個客家基本法的第三條已經明定了政府應該保護及推廣客語那依照這個文化部的語言調查報告 |
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其實現在客語的使用率有流失超過七成那以及有四個縣市的一些比如說什麼少安腔啊海陸腔已經屬於這個冰嶺就大家越來越講越少那這次的業務報告我們很期待可是卻沒有看見客家語言發展法草案的進度它是依照客家基本法第三條應該要來明定的一個部分 |
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所以我們就我了解其實國民黨團有三個委員也提出相關的法案的草案那現在還沒有看到政院的版本那所以我們認為這個法制的進程有點遲緩那是不是會造成客語快速流失的這些隱憂是不是可以請教主委那現在我們的這個客語客家語言發展法最重要推廣客語的這個草案何時可以送來立法院 |
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我們也要重新系統行業發展法的討論因為在北部有幾條多條,某種意見很清楚所以我們要有一個公開的議題去邀請大家提供意見我認為我們國家要進一步,關於要進一步,送到法院 |
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這個會期有機會送進來立法院嗎可能有困難 這是你 議員也是你 可能有困難好 沒關係 主委一定要再加油啦 好不好還有上個會期我有請教主委其實客語的發展有一個非常重要就是國家客家發展計畫它會訂定我們未來整個客語它整個的一些的計畫跟進度那上次我有請教過主委 在112年底 |
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公佈完這個計劃以後113年度是空白當時我還認為說奇怪賴總統怎麼會113年度都空白那之前問主委現在未來預計有一個新的一期的國家課與發展計劃是114年到117年有這樣的計劃嗎有有有 目前已經合幣費已經整個當天好了目前尊本行政院和政院的費送國普費國普費的意見也還在事實當中 |
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所以我請教主委那113年當時沒有提出計劃這個未來會是同案嗎還是說當時的原因發展是什麼為什麼過去的計劃是110年到112年113年是空白然後新的計劃是114年到117年那113年這樣子的沒有這樣的計劃未來是同案嗎 |
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我希望英國不會在未來無縫接軌就會持續下去好 謝謝主委希望說這個客家語言發展不能說中間斷掉一年我也是支持主委的想法應該要延續最後有請教一個重點就是說現在我 |
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這個客會要來發行這個客家幣預計好像在114年的7月要來刺激族群認同以及語言文化的參與我認為這是一個非常重要的事情可是我相信這個還在研議當中那我可不可以請教主委今年的客家幣預計發行的量為何那客家幣114年7月要發行客家幣的發放 |
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那我們的預期的目標是什麼可以增加多少客家客於使用的比例那以及這個客家幣現在的發放就我所了解現在使用在實體的狀況就是說我實體在消費的時候可以去使用那因為本席知道說現在我們客委會很認真他有推動很多的線上課程 |
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那我想說這些客家幣是不是可以來購買這些線上課程這些虛擬的一些的使用方式是不是可以請這個主委解釋一下好感謝總委員我們學家幣一開始最要爭取的原因是高息依賴和負負負負負負負負負負負負 |
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有學家認證認證的人一定得到 類似學生一定得到第三個有顧慮行業家庭要在三方面 保養高校很困難我不用說英國的學生行業有流通適用的機會 |
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本身的行業家庭、行業認證人做到在外公學、外公學所做事的時間,做到用合法的對方最主要我們想要的事情,不是要運用的技巧,是要用合法的技巧所以我非常要學習 |
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所以主委謝謝 所以就是說 |
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這個客家幣的重點是要讓大家促進客語的發展大家用客語溝通嘛所以在使用客家幣的時候就是盡量要鼓勵大家要講客語鼓勵大家 鼓勵大家 還有那個送點要一天的外公學要送點的年齡沒有那預計發行的數量為何目前四十萬年 四十萬 四十萬 |
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40萬人那一個人大概可以取得1000塊但是因為我的電子機我倆人看不到我們才登記制 |
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那最後我還是要拜託主委 我要請教一個問題其實我也是幫新北市政府發聲那新北市政府 最後一個問題新北市政府每年都會辦這個疫名季的部分那我想要請教 請主委聽一下我的問題 |
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這個112年度這個新北市辦疫名祭的整個經費是120萬當時課委會補助300萬那113年的時候總經費也是120萬可是課委會只補助100萬為什麼會少了三倍那我希望說114年的時候因為我知道課委會的這個經費今年跟去年比起來還多了3億元那我是不是需要說可以不要再減少了好 各位請主委回答 |
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主席 請主委 |
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主委說實在的,北省聽不懂,不知所措,根本你們這個單位,有山也有洞,好像還會走進出來,所以在這個過程當中,我也覺得大家都是 |
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說不實在的 會違法啦 處理很明顯的 你有檢體對 有敵對 哪有說 給你給人家讀給你給人家刪啊 要怎麼給人家記 你不就說不要人刪 不要人那個啊 我覺得這個社會都亂了啦 來啦 |
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主委,在這裏我覺得剛才有說到博工站博工站大部分都是客家委員的自治的所在有時候他們地方有長照的,都可以互相配合你如果想說,我跟義企的年數不夠 |
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英文都沒辦法申請,尤其在那六條的地方主委你知道,台北他們都支持在那尤其在廟的他們的活動他們的辦,這幾天我們的童話祭到外面,我們的聖父山丘那裡,還有樹林的 |
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提供給我們用的那個童話節我當然跟你們說我要說補公站的時候我認為主委我們是不是要有一個改變以入進展不要說我們如果像你們這樣說的時候自己是永遠又簽署到補公站是不是這個問題要怎麼去改變可以照顧這些客戶因為他們長大 |
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差不多都上了年紀那麼多要怎麼去照顧他們來 主委你回答一下跟王委員報告 做王委員這樣下去看其實假如私下的素材很符合省錢 把工作負債的條件因為經驗我們要把它擴大除了鄉鎮期超過三分之一以上只有他的社中條三期存離那差不多 |
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一般他送人去的行李或用行李的店他就可以來選擇所以就像王美媛這樣在他的講義士我們提供的素材他做的比較乾淨他做的就來選擇 |
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因為我當委來聽他們說的時候,就是說要申請的時候,他們的領口所會不足,但是主委你這樣說的時候,他們可以去申請這個不公站,但是在中等到今年的時候,我們有計39張出來,但是我們的經費,也有刪除的時候,如果這樣 |
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是可以再接受新的申請或是未來申請來主委你回答一下另外一個部分,第一個部分是委員講到的我們在經費刪貼,刪貼依算有影響到白宮這屋站莫不臭有影響,我們民意的暫定因為白宮這屋站 |
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三點數變多,所以雖然說有增加一些,但是平均來說全部還是公台公台補儲的金額,所以故事有公台的補儲 |
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主委你現在說的,可以申請跟補助固定的,你買了再說,因為醫生的問題,所以固定的過程,因為醫生有三億,所以會減的 |
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是不是這樣 錯錯錯因為我覺得這就是醫生的照顧 這裡的博工站公司一定要有醫生嘛 要有醫生可以讓這裡的博工站的照顧更好我也希望未來的假期期拿出來的時候 我們的懲辦單位 |
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來人道合作一下再來主委,我代您請教說因為我們有夾武輝和媒體的選擇窮三千年的時候,我們的客家族群主流化的發展會繼續 |
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和競爭創新的環境會營造的幾位客家議員、深植的區委和客家藝文發展的政委裡面的區委那這裡面 |
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我認為第一就是用議員發展委員會去辦的因為長久以來在家裡我都要求你們在家裡做一些議員會讓這些孩子可以合作 |
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我們的議員像我講的那樣,各位議員大家互相尊重互相合適,我們也希望這個議員不能消失但是本市是很高興,像本屋的幾位來賓 |
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是不是今年還可以做嗎?來感謝王委員我們有醫生我們很希望到國體法判例但是現在凍結醫生3%是否凍結到以前確實會影響到醫院法庭的創持 |
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所以我還是希望在這個年度以後我能夠發出規劃以以往表現的衝刺 |
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這樣主委你說這幾天在假期期都有藝文表演的時候會結尾如果不解凍的時候今年就有可能不去假期期表演了有可能這樣就有很嚴重的對假期期來說的應用很大的所以說我們要關心去看要怎麼處理因為他們都說主要你們提議以來 |
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來解凍 跟你們說沒關係 看是他們說真的要解凍還是那些人用蒸的啦應該主委 各位人喔 那些用蒸的可能聽不懂啦主委在這裡本身要跟你探討的就是說 我們都有去 |
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假如說我們的課位的零考數有多少在這個規定當中,我們有三檔內省,有四檔內省,有五檔內省在這幾檔內,本學所看到的就是91年 |
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九九十三年 再來九十千年 再來一百年 再來一百零三年一百零五年 再來一百十年現在要再九十八十五年 還要算我們的統計在這裡本身要提議說 我們不要憤顧五年到算一遍 那太晚太久了我們是不是可以改變說三年還是四年 因為五年有那麼久 |
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主委我這個意見是不是去了解看看因為統計你讓五黨最過久的人考數以上因為我接受的時間夠了感謝主委 |
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通話機的補助,說實在我本來站在這要求說,可以補助多少嗎?還有醫生有三人,希望醫生有三人的時候,對自己的活動,要讓他們多多協助和了解他們如何的辦活動,以及醫生多多給他們協助,以上好,感謝毛議員 |
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好我們請黃建平委員謝謝主席我們慢慢請客會鼓主委好請主委主委早安主委接下來4月到5月是客家莊很重要的這個觀光季節就是4月5月是我們這個 |
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桐花季嘛對不對那油桐花生長密集的地方就是都很多都是我們許多客家族群的一個聚集的 居地的地方喔那油桐花過去也是客家族群呃貼補家用一個很重要的經濟作物那隨著時代變遷那油桐花現在變成國內旅遊觀光的一個重要的亮點 |
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那我想因此不管是中央跟或者是我們地方政府近年都不斷的在推廣這個油桶花季那並結合我們的客家的文化活動讓我們的美景還有我們的客家歷史文化能夠相輔相成那本席注意到客委會為了推廣我們客家文化有設立這個客庄小旅行的網站方便民眾來查詢有相關的一些活動的地點那尤其是跟我們這個各縣市的政府來合作大力推廣這個油桶花季 |
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像是推出這個33條油桐花小旅行的路線以及許多桐花義務活動這是一件好事那本席對於谷竹野上任之後至於推廣我們各地的客家文化也是給予肯定那但是本席要跟竹野反映一件事情就是台東的油桐花其實也非常的漂亮那尤其是在我們台東的鹿野地區因為我們台東的客家住院主要是在縱谷就是石上關山跟鹿野 |
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那鹿野地區有前陣子還有辦那個花線鹿野客家童花的這個活動那指導單位還是我們客委會那本席也在活動的時候遇到我們的科長那但是我在我們客委會的這個客庄小旅行的這個官網上面介紹這個油桐花小旅行的這個欄目裡面並沒有看到相關的質詢 |
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那其實這是件非常可惜的事情因為當天的活動其實非常多的人可是其實他這個活動並沒有在網站出現 |
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那雖然台東比較偏遠那其實因為偏遠所以才是更需要大家來注意那一起來推廣我們在地的這個客家文化的美景促進更多的觀光的人潮台東縱谷的客家文化其實相對它特別它是一個各族群融合的地方它除了有客家族群外還有漢人還有原住民阿美族的朋友甚至一些是我們新住民現在形成一個很特殊的客家文化 |
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那主要應該了解其實台東其實就是一個移民的移民城市那根據我們客人會過去的統計台東的客家人口大概是在4萬多人也佔了將近全縣將近20%那相較於桃園、新竹、苗栗這些幾個客家大縣來說雖然我們人口數比較少可是其實台東美麗的這個油桶花的景點跟客栈文化其實也沒有比較差 |
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那像是我們過去我們鹿野龍田就有一個那個油桐花大道那花季的時候非常漂亮吸引很多的遊客來這邊喝我們紅烏龍然後賞花那非常適合全家大小來這邊旅遊不過在一樣在我們客家 |
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客庄小旅行的這網站中同樣也沒有看到這樣的相關的資訊喔那我記得本席在剛到立法院的時候其實在三個主委的時候其實有建議過這件事情要趕快改進那當時主委也說會來改善那目前為止還是沒有這部分我想還是要請主委來多多的來督促一下喔那 |
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另外在這個網站上我們可以看到各縣市的有關遊童化或是客家文化體驗的這個套裝行程啊它的費用啊還有聯繫窗口但幾乎也都沒有看到什麼台東的商家只有在那個限定優惠店家中找到兩個登記在案的這個台東伴手禮的商店我想這樣對於台東有關客家文化的元素非常可惜就是我想相信它元素很多不只有這一家而已 |
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所以本席希望是為了要督促我們整個台東縣促進我們台東縣的這個觀光那也將我們台東的客家文化發揚廣大需要我們中央跟地方一起來努力在這邊本席也要幫台東縣來宣傳我們目前台東縣跟鹿野相公所有推出這個花縣鹿野的這個活動現在也熱烈的在進行那我們也歡迎全國各地的鄉親都可以來這邊來旅遊所以我想要請客委會的主委回去再盤點一下 |
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有關台東的相關的這個上通的步道 油棟花的這個小旅行的資訊以及店家的資訊能夠更新在我們客戶會的這個官網裡面那主委是不是回去之後可以立刻來著手好 感謝王議員 我想要一天下去處理啦所以請人家不等於要馬上去判理 |
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好 謝謝主委主委我想台東是一個多元的移民城市那客家文化其實在台東其實也是很重要的一件事情我們一起來努力讓屬於這塊土地上的一個文化然後一個族群的聲音讓更多人看到那謝謝主委好 感謝王議員好 謝謝主席好 我們請李博議員 |
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好像剛剛資訊到現在齁那所有的委員都對於這個我們客家委員會的這些事務 |
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包含博工照護站都有非常多的這些意見甚至要推廣客家相關不管是語言或者是文化或者是觀光也好都有提出很多的這些見解奇怪怎麼跟我準備的方向不太一樣好像大家才忘記說今天我的重點其實是要跟客委會來討論 |
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被刪了那麼多預算被凍了那麼多預算這些事情怎麼做剛好好像所有人都忘記捏新北的委員還說去年補助120萬今年能不能增加他忘記他刪了你們多少預算捏主委妳說明一下補助方面的預算被刪了多少目前吼我們額部費全部分散在1.91 |
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業務費刪除1.9億這個是光課委會的部分嘛那還有一個行政院被統刪676億請問課委會現在已經收到主席出說我們課委會必須要允諸多少目前還沒有也要6361要行政院自行調整的部分目前還沒有有納稅所以 |
| transcript.whisperx[137].start |
5169.164 |
| transcript.whisperx[137].end |
5198.443 |
| transcript.whisperx[137].text |
怎麼樣補助 所以這一筆補助經費一定會被影響到啊怎麼樣增加 你剛剛的回應也沒有說要怎麼樣增加我也不懂 我也不知道你要怎麼樣可以增加嘛所以很可惜齁 其實今年是補助委可以開始好好執行賴總統對於好好在客家庄生活以及好好推廣客語的一個工作年那國家的稅收也足以讓客委會可以多做事 |
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5199.847 |
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5207.832 |
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主委,你原本想要多做的事情是什麼?跟議員報告,我們今年有機的新增的計劃,剛才講到的核和B,那一個再大的部分,我們要強硬,我們今年強硬諮詢委員會,特別強硬的支持內部,要去建立那個一級。 |
| transcript.whisperx[139].start |
5221.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[139].end |
5229.209 |
| transcript.whisperx[139].text |
現行目前除了新的計劃以外,還有QA延續新的計劃,我們都在擴大工程,拔萊潘尼,他們都需要經費,所以產業以後雖然有增加,但是那是不可能的 |
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5245.643 |
| transcript.whisperx[140].end |
5261.269 |
| transcript.whisperx[140].text |
簡單來講,舊的計畫可以持續做,例如博工造戶站做的做,但是因為有刪除的預算博工造戶站也被刪除了嘛文化幣是新的預算,所以文化幣是可能不知道怎麼樣開始進行嗎? |
| transcript.whisperx[141].start |
5262.898 |
| transcript.whisperx[141].end |
5272.324 |
| transcript.whisperx[141].text |
黑咖啡的部分,我們沒辦法全面的發,要用一些策略去感受,要等級,沒辦法全面 |
| transcript.whisperx[142].start |
5281.423 |
| transcript.whisperx[142].end |
5310.598 |
| transcript.whisperx[142].text |
所以就變成只能逐步的來推廣我覺得非常可惜那台灣是所有華人地區唯一有一個客家的算客委會一個唯一有客委會當部會的一個國家那最主要的目的要推廣好好客庄生活之外對於客語的推廣也是我們急需要努力的方向也要持續努力的工作 |
| transcript.whisperx[143].start |
5311.098 |
| transcript.whisperx[143].end |
5328.308 |
| transcript.whisperx[143].text |
那吸引青年然後做客家幣等等的我覺得都是非常好的一個方向那如果不能做我必須要把目前我們所有有刪除客委會預算的委員我必須要把他們的名字念出來啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[144].start |
5334.352 |
| transcript.whisperx[144].end |
5363.318 |
| transcript.whisperx[144].text |
有新竹的包含在我們委員會裡面雖然在我們委員會審查的時候他沒有刪到這一筆但是徐欣穎委員在二讀會的時候是舉手刪除客委會預算林思明委員在二讀會的時候是舉手刪除客委會預算傅坤祺委員在二讀會的時候是舉手刪除我們的預算徐巧欣委員號稱客籍委員在二讀會的時候 |
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5364.338 |
| transcript.whisperx[145].end |
5370.244 |
| transcript.whisperx[145].text |
也是舉手刪除客委會的預算所以針對這幾個委員我必須要把他們點名 |
| transcript.whisperx[146].start |
5371.744 |
| transcript.whisperx[146].end |
5396.523 |
| transcript.whisperx[146].text |
所有其他包含新住民委員包含原住民委員對他們新住民的權益對他們原住民的權益想盡辦法希望增加照顧只有這四個客委會的委員在院會的時候去大砍客委會的預算我覺得這件事情必須要講出來當然不是主委你講這是我講那所以最後 |
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5397.063 |
| transcript.whisperx[147].end |
5403.528 |
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希望客委會在雖然非常辛苦的狀況下我還沒問你凍結有多少?凍結目前是30%30%推算下來差不多3.61%但是...哇!那非常大喔!其實3.9%跟3.6%那是過去兩年來合理費沒的狀況 |
| transcript.whisperx[148].start |
5422.865 |
| transcript.whisperx[148].end |
5450.72 |
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歷年被刪跟凍最多的一次嗎沒錯那我請問妳被凍結百分之三十到目前行政院沒有辦法算出來那六百七十六億大家怎麼分配的狀況下會影響到客委會的哪一個業務的工作全面都會影響到譬如昨天妳的譬如說我們的核架國藥管磨砂要請一萬人去參加目前還在核核磨法徒庭堂去判理 |
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5451.772 |
| transcript.whisperx[149].end |
5457.322 |
| transcript.whisperx[149].text |
所以這一個客家歌謠比賽他可能要等到凍結之後才有辦法來規劃結凍結凍以後要解凍之後所以有可能有可能今年就沒法圖判 |
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5466.448 |
| transcript.whisperx[150].end |
5490.595 |
| transcript.whisperx[150].text |
有凍結的百分之三十以外還有行政院那六百七十六億所以客委會很多的這些不管是補助也好或者是活動也好已經嚴重影響到客委會歷年在辦理推廣課餘以及各種活動或者是補助縣市政府是不是也有會受到影響我會想問像剛才說的白宮政府站目前已經都減少減費的減少百分之十七的減費 |
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5496.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[151].end |
5507.835 |
| transcript.whisperx[151].text |
所以國民黨的委員都只敢問那種不用花到錢的事情嗎真正要花到預算的事情都不敢問嗎所以在這邊我必須要提出來謝謝,也請客委會加油好,感謝李委員請慢用政委 |
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5530.492 |
| transcript.whisperx[152].end |
5550.478 |
| transcript.whisperx[152].text |
有請主委好請主委媽咪一樣吼聲音沒有出來請董事聽書一下好嗎請董事聽書一下謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[153].start |
5560.977 |
| transcript.whisperx[153].end |
5564.958 |
| transcript.whisperx[153].text |
主委,您是否同意預算凍結不是刪除?當然,當然,凍結是凍結,但是某些都以前還是做我們的用 |
| transcript.whisperx[154].start |
5580.812 |
| transcript.whisperx[154].end |
5601.392 |
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對 但是說凍結不是刪除嘛 你也是同意嘛但是我們立法院是要行政機關 就是要有完整的報告就能啟動 解凍的程序 就進入解凍的程序 對嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[155].start |
5602.803 |
| transcript.whisperx[155].end |
5607.646 |
| transcript.whisperx[155].text |
目前這樣,但是有規定沒有確定的引書像剛才說的,在二三堵的時間沒錯,是說沒有確定,沒有預算是行政機關的工作,沒有去做嘛所以說,所以在目前我們沒有看到我們的 |
| transcript.whisperx[156].start |
5626.917 |
| transcript.whisperx[156].end |
5632.627 |
| transcript.whisperx[156].text |
科家委員會向立法院提出任何一份正式書面解凍的書面 |
| transcript.whisperx[157].start |
5637.651 |
| transcript.whisperx[157].end |
5662.799 |
| transcript.whisperx[157].text |
所以到目前為止也沒有提出嘛 是不是目前沒提出 那個營業 要同時提二三度的時間要同三的時間 有六八三十六一對啊 但是說我們是為什麼不提出呢因為要不提出才能解凍嘛但是要數額的平安 沒有確定也是這個行政部門要去算啊因為整個一個會計 |
| transcript.whisperx[158].start |
5665.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[158].end |
5669.043 |
| transcript.whisperx[158].text |
會計單位 我們整個會計單位到現在沒有去做自己該值的預算還有說該要提出報告 我們就可以解凍但是呢 你也沒有提出報告啊 也不願意提出報告所以說是為什麼呢 還是說因為行政院沒有 叫你不要提出 |
| transcript.whisperx[159].start |
5688.997 |
| transcript.whisperx[159].end |
5693.198 |
| transcript.whisperx[159].text |
就不要解凍沒有 我跟議員報告 因為當時三一酸有6361 壓的部分要七個月調整 壓的體態數量數量所有的土地要三一度 都不行所以說出來 都一定要運用處理所以說我們是沒有刪除的 還是一樣可以用嘛 對不對 |
| transcript.whisperx[160].start |
5715.803 |
| transcript.whisperx[160].end |
5717.907 |
| transcript.whisperx[160].text |
所以我們行政院現在跟開說無法確認就是像你說的剩餘數難以題解動案 |
| transcript.whisperx[161].start |
5727.006 |
| transcript.whisperx[161].end |
5749.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[161].text |
我們三讀通過你們就來用後面的行政作業就要去做嘛所以都該做的沒有去做所以根本就是偷換概念凍結預算與刪減預算是完全不同的機制連這個國小的學生都知道所以解凍案應該應對就是會被刪除的但是凍結的部分預算處理 |
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5755.123 |
| transcript.whisperx[162].end |
5761.947 |
| transcript.whisperx[162].text |
所以但是我看你的報告裡面都有寫你們做的哪一些啊對不對所以說不送申請凍結的方案但是呢 說我們立法院讓你無法推動業務不是我們啊所以說你比較批求一個沒錯 但是有三處的凍結所以凍結要去處理面報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[163].start |
5784.502 |
| transcript.whisperx[163].end |
5795.329 |
| transcript.whisperx[163].text |
就會進入程序但是完全沒有所以不是說凍結不等於刪除所以我們在我們的審查的預算我們共同減了我們是43億我們的編列的預算114年編列的預算43億7000 |
| transcript.whisperx[164].start |
5805.776 |
| transcript.whisperx[164].end |
5807.236 |
| transcript.whisperx[164].text |
多萬我們錢只有一億九千多萬動了四億多而已其他都不能用 |
| transcript.whisperx[165].start |
5821.781 |
| transcript.whisperx[165].end |
5825.444 |
| transcript.whisperx[165].text |
但是目前為止我們看你的運作你報告裡面你還是有在運作沒有提出的解凍的編列的預算所以你怕說因為你今年14年申請太多了我們解凍後你花不完用不完所以你不敢來申請解凍 |
| transcript.whisperx[166].start |
5845.998 |
| transcript.whisperx[166].end |
5846.819 |
| transcript.whisperx[166].text |
根據我們的警察署成績因為時間的關係全台詐騙集團現在已經標高了週一 |
| transcript.whisperx[167].start |
5862.155 |
| transcript.whisperx[167].end |
5886.542 |
| transcript.whisperx[167].text |
單日採選就高達2億8千多萬全年就是顯示破百億啦大家的資料都知道我們所有的全民都知道說禍害年齡就是50歲以上為最多其中65以上的長者就被比較高主委很清楚我們客家族群高齡的人口比我們全國平均 |
| transcript.whisperx[168].start |
5891.784 |
| transcript.whisperx[168].end |
5895.865 |
| transcript.whisperx[168].text |
就是比較聽不懂中文所以呢他只要講柯家他辨識這些詐騙的就是能力比較低但是呢我們在這個部分呢我請教我們柯委會防詐的議題是柯家的版本有製作嗎有影片嗎有海報嗎有手冊嗎我們沒有看到 |
| transcript.whisperx[169].start |
5918.831 |
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5920.253 |
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我們跟議員報告,我們今年每宣費三個百分之六十幾度都沒辦法做的,過去我們都沒辦法做但是三個百分之六十幾度高達一億多啊,高達一億多還在可以用嗎? |
| transcript.whisperx[170].start |
5936.274 |
| transcript.whisperx[170].end |
5960.819 |
| transcript.whisperx[170].text |
但是你們就把電影片類的大片的影片放在自己的客家的網站自嗨所以沒有達到我們要放出的影片所以我現在要求你可以你要去要做這件事情這個也是公共議題所以說我們電影的媒體宣傳意義多 |
| transcript.whisperx[171].start |
5964.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[171].end |
5967.061 |
| transcript.whisperx[171].text |
可以再做這一塊嗎?刪除了35% 更是凍結30%你也自己講的所以這個部分我希望但是關於這個關鍵 |
| transcript.whisperx[172].start |
5987.745 |
| transcript.whisperx[172].end |
5990.706 |
| transcript.whisperx[172].text |
這個關鍵希望說我們減少詐騙的你完全沒有去做這意義多來去做什麼還有我們現在目前我們有很多的但是我們有現在的我們全國的我們看你們網站 |
| transcript.whisperx[173].start |
6010.476 |
| transcript.whisperx[173].end |
6030.758 |
| transcript.whisperx[173].text |
科家認證今年到底有沒有辦影響有多少學生跟教師但是我們看你們的網站也有在進行中因為我們是凍結的費用是部分還有很多的經費還是需去用但是你是不是你可以自己打自己的嘴巴看有沒有很痛呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[174].start |
6031.058 |
| transcript.whisperx[174].end |
6036.981 |
| transcript.whisperx[174].text |
而你講的跟做的完全是因為詐騙人行事不是依法行政也沒有依理的定則去執行所以說全國小型的藝文競賽目前的進度還是一樣可以再進行我們看到的就是這樣子的畫面所以我們希望不要就是去騙我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[175].start |
6057.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[175].end |
6060.531 |
| transcript.whisperx[175].text |
平民百姓這個都是我們很清楚的所以我們很清楚如果你說這樣子的話我請你全國 給我一分鐘客家族群收騙的人數金額 詐騙的 |
| transcript.whisperx[176].start |
6074.457 |
| transcript.whisperx[176].end |
6082.546 |
| transcript.whisperx[176].text |
楊太統計給我兩天統計給我送到我的公司有困難因為你有去做該做的事情當然有困難我們立法院在行我們的監督局有依有據 |
| transcript.whisperx[177].start |
6093.379 |
| transcript.whisperx[177].end |
6098.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[177].text |
所以我們希望你當醫療的事情也懂得去報告不要嘴巴一直在說我們凍結 凍結 沒法執行每天都在執行我們的費用是從今年到現在已經四月份了我們行政院跟各個部會沒有提出就是我們的凍結的方案怎麼樣去解凍呢這個就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[178].start |
6122.988 |
| transcript.whisperx[178].end |
6142.613 |
| transcript.whisperx[178].text |
部會的工作要去做的我們希望我們要拿出證據也拿出你的行政的職責不要再去欺騙我們平民百姓了以上希望你在兩天不行是不是一個禮拜拿出我們因為你有媒體費你要拿出我們柯家族群被受騙的受騙的資料給我一個禮拜謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[179].start |
6155.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[179].end |
6165.666 |
| transcript.whisperx[179].text |
好 我們請黃婕為人好 謝謝主席 我們請顧主委好 請主委我們一樣齁 |
| transcript.whisperx[180].start |
6173.806 |
| transcript.whisperx[180].end |
6179.548 |
| transcript.whisperx[180].text |
主委好 可不可以在這邊先請妳說明解凍報告真的是因為你們不送 才沒有辦法審理嗎請問 今天報告不是我們不送 凡是投錢 有業益的部分 公募問題的因素就是636億 而我們持行刪除的部分 我們不在經驗的一端 故事會影響到我們的學費 到底那算1.91 還是比1.91更高 |
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6203.237 |
| transcript.whisperx[181].end |
6226.783 |
| transcript.whisperx[181].text |
好謝謝主委的說明我在這邊再幫主委再補充一下其實總預算從公告到現在也不過三個禮拜的時間光是這個準備的期間現在就要馬上送解凍報告根本非常不合情合理更何況這個解凍報告的專案報告的用意就是希望說預算執行之後看是不是有改善的空間再來專案報告嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[182].start |
6228.143 |
| transcript.whisperx[182].end |
6255.588 |
| transcript.whisperx[182].text |
那你總預算到現在也才公告三周那你要去怎麼檢視這個預算執行期間到底有沒有改善所以現在就要送解凍報告真的是非常不合理的一件事情再加上剛剛主委說的因為立法院送出去的時候636億通刪並沒有告訴各個部會到底要各部會怎麼樣去分配自己要刪凍的金額導致現在各個部會都還不知道最後我到底還有哪些 |
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6256.808 |
| transcript.whisperx[183].end |
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項目哪一些預算可能會被刪到連部會自己都不知道因為立法院沒有給啊所以很多國民黨跟民眾黨的委員還在講說為什麼解斷報告不趕快送出來不就他們害的所以我是在這邊替你們喊冤啦真的非常委屈喔那前面我也要講一下因為其實剛剛有委員提到說你們過去到現在即便刪了1.9億可是還是比去年多了3億 |
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那這個真的就不會影響你們預算執行嗎?真的不會影響你們在地方上推廣客家文化的行動嗎?民營報告一定有影響的,目前很寬度影響的用一個例子來講,剛才關心的北貢州負責,民營的負責點數很重 |
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明年要判理的內容增加,從今年來說增加的強硬,尤其是餐廳的事情,要經費一定要增加要增加的經費,雖然說有增加,但是剩下的以後不太白因為以餐廳輸多,所以目前已經輸影響的,所有的餐廳3%,17%同步供待,要吃吃的影響 |
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好 謝謝主委的說明所以很明顯嘛剛剛也有一些委員自己提到說雖然說了什麼刪了1.9億但是還是增加了3億但實質上光是這個博光照護站就已經實質受影響了那我在這邊要提另外一點對於我高雄這邊的業務是比較有影響的因為裡面其實有一筆是這個客家語言升職計畫的委辦費被減列了1060萬元那這個 |
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我很擔心的是 是不是會直接影響到 客語能力認證的 施策的場次目前我們清涼的育婦 也要行業推動所以也要部分 我們清涼不需要影響但是 沒確定說以後的財產 也要說幾年 幾年之後 要如何有影響 |
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好 這個是我非常擔心的喔因為其實我們高雄也有四個是這個客家相關的莊就是包括美濃 山林 六龜甲仙嘛那其實在我們市區其實客家的人口也不少那像我們這邊古山就也有近兩成那還有三明也是兩三成 |
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那我很擔心說這樣子預算刪減下去或是這個凍結到時候沒有辦法解凍的話是不是會影響到我們這個實測的場次因為其實我也知道說像我們高雄真的很努力在推廣我們高雄的市府的課委會也是很努力所以這種本土文化的保存工作啊我們也是一直有在鼓勵大家趕快來考課餘這個能力的認證那甚至還提高了課餘能力的這個認證的獎勵金那我很擔心說如果到時候真的 |
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預算被迫減少然後考試的場次影響到的話那等於是前功盡棄我們這麼地方這麼努力的在做這個本土文化的保存跟推廣然後結果中央被因為特定的委員把這個預算刪掉 |
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導致我們推廣的這個場次進行不下去所以我這個是非常擔心啦所以我在這邊也是希望像主委剛剛講的還是盡量到時候如果預算可以有調配的空間的話盡量不要去影響到能力認證這方面的場次跟推廣 |
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也跟議員補充啦 因為他的母親也受到影響 因為我們宣傳的生態60% 也在櫃台的一部分所以每一項的宣傳都很感受 感受的宣傳 包括他的認真 比方說像認真 宣傳要跟他講 他要保命的 他要用的 |
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感謝 感謝 因為那些人 人就不對說 有人要諮詢的所以 目前來說 人家那些事都影響了就 報名的人數 可能沒有很多人家 目前都看得到這就是我擔心的對 光是你們宣傳費如果不夠大家連考試的資訊都不知道 |
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那可能報名的人次就受影響那整個能夠被保存的這次能夠因為考試而推廣這個課與認證的範圍又縮小了這就是我最擔心的一件事情那最後還有點時間我來補充爭取一下因為我知道說你們今年有這個課加幣的計畫 |
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那我不知道說這個到底接下來會不會因為你們的可能通商那個636億被影響到或者是你們現在手上的31.9億還有凍結3.6億的目前的經費而受到影響那我希望不會 |
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那如果不会的话在这样的前提之下可以顺利的推行客家币的计划因为我知道里面其实政策蛮好的就是说18到20岁的本国的青年可以来参与抽签然后抽出40万份然后通过客语认证的还有客语家庭的人就可以来领然后去相关的这个客家的店家消费嘛那我目前看到的是因为你们目标是3000家可是目前大概只招到了800间 |
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相關的客家店家那我在想是不是因為你們把相關的範圍只限縮在客家文化重點發展城鄉裡面的行政區呢如果可以是不是再放寬就像我剛剛提到的我們高雄市區雖然高雄有四個 |
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六龜美濃然後山林甲仙除了這四個之外其實其他的行政區的客家人口也不少啊那像我們鼓山像我們三明鳳山其實都也有一定的客家比例的人口那是不是也可以把這一些行政區放進去不要只限縮在客家文化發展的城鄉區呢 |
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感謝李燕 李燕提的提議 我覺得在各方面的研究看到有發出確態的目 當一般的提起以外共學的重點 也要研究 |
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好謝謝主委那我的目的當然是希望說如果這一些城鄉發展區可以優先啦那重點是這一些使用客家幣的人口他們去客家的店家使用的時候可以有更多客家文化的交流嘛那包括說他的店家本身就是推廣客家文化的或者是他的店員是可以講客家話的那如果我們市區也有這樣的店家其實也可以把他們納入那目標就是三千間都可以都可以招進來嘛 |
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好謝謝主委謝謝好感謝王美燕好主席一位同仁請我們的谷主委 |
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好 主委好 主委 針對我們刪減的預算 我看這1.9億 裡面就列了五項 包含我們博工的護照 還有那個客家的推廣還有產業的推廣 藝文的推廣 那2年期的營運 那你這1.9億 |
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9億的刪減,那對你整個運作有沒有受影響有,有所影響,就像VN說的那幾項,我們很感激警惡,不出提防的警惡,還有感激那些攀離的蟲吃,這都有所影響對,因為主委,你在 |
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在推廣的客家 其實包含本席比較注重的就是那個客家的語言的推廣還有我們現在還有一個凍結的3.6億這整個的客委會的運作是一個大大的打擊那我們還是要趕快來做解套吧那本席這邊跟你探討一下就是2012年開始舉辦的 |
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又刻意認證那你現在又年齡又下修到四歲四歲就可以來報名那你整個的我們的幼童的推廣這個成效現在是怎樣 |
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今天報告,去年一百一十三年有八千人參加今年五千人又減少,我們要探討的原因包括創始、判例的創始還有猶豫,是不是我們判的合不來敗想猶豫來參加,生意來參加 |
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因為真的我們客家語言的流失速度是真的非常的快那我看在我的選區在新北新北客家的人口應該有超過60萬那光是土城三峽這個區域的人口的比例也是非常的高所以我看到一些客家的小朋友他們現在都是不講客語 |
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那這是很嚴重的問題那我們要怎樣來做推廣呢你除了說是不是除了我們客家語言的推廣讓他們有些學習的認證以外還是辦一些我記得過去我們辦了一個客家大宴 |
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然後客家大院全部都是用我們的客家語言那我們是要怎樣來讓他們來欣賞我們的客家系來學習我們的客家語言我認為這個成效都不錯啊那我現在還有一點就在我們這個月的19號19號 |
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就是這個禮拜六這個禮拜六我們的土城有個同花祭新北就是土城這個場次那這個場次一半都是有好幾萬人 |
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那所以我們要怎樣去推廣 那你說你錢撥給新北市但是我來先問一下 主委你那天會不會到負主委跟主秘對 因為我們就是有一個差別的待遇錢是我們中央出的 |
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但是我們中央補助但是到了那一邊我看要說話的機會也是不大所以這一點吼我還是認為說我們要花的錢吼還是花在我們能夠有有真正的先導我們客家的族群吼然後我 |
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因為每年這個同花祭是辦得非常成功所以我們還是要跟他們結合說怎樣來辦,要互相尊重嘛就是我們客委會到我們地方民意代表沒說話那也OK但是起碼我們出的經費也是要適度的尊重我們一下這一點應該是跟新北市市政府大家溝通一下吧 |
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還有勒 |
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那我剛才那個我們蘇巧惠講的在三峽五寮五寮是一個有一個客家客家裡吧有個客家園區啊那個那個客家裡我看我們在我們我們客委會這邊來做輔導我認為是輔導的不是很成功嗎這一點就是我們要要加強的 |
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國會國會議員報告國會國會國會議員報告國會議員報告 |
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對因為畢竟在新北就是無料理嘛然後這個我們要怎樣去把它推廣怎樣當然啦就是要經費嘛那經費我們要怎樣預注包含找新北市 |
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大家共同來配合,讓這個地方能發展為客家一個里這是一個很重要的,那是一個山區嘛那是我們未來要推動的目標吧沒問題沒問題,我們可以跟鐵縫,跟鐵縫來交通看看鐵縫有沒有需要,我們可以提出 |
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好的好的好那我們都期待啦那我們未來還是推動一些大廠的就是那個不管是客家大戲啦還是一些子豐車就是來吸引我們一些小朋友大家共同就是用我們刻意的來煽導的方式應該效果會不錯吧好謝謝好感謝 |
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好 請劉許廷召委謝主席 谷主委有請好 請主委昨天早安 這個 |
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今天我們要來追蹤幾個之前有追蹤過的題目然後另外問追蹤一個之前追蹤過的題目啦另外問一個新的題目我們今天談的重點是客家這個客語友善環境的一個推廣那就本席的了解啦其實也從客委會第一會期的這個業務報告就有講我們希望這個推動這個企業社會責任倡議語言多樣性鼓勵各個企業其實都要營造一個客語友善的環境不能只有說 |
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公部門的部分有人來做但企業的部分速度比較慢所以其實過去就本期的了解包含在你們第三會期的業務報告裡面也有寫叫做公式客語無障礙環境補助計畫有補助公部門也有補助民間單位讓他有客語的志工有口譯的設備完善客語的播音等等的一些 |
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克與友善環境的這個使用的計畫其實做得不錯然後也有一些成果那它的概念當然要有公共化、多元化、普及化跟生活化那我今天想特別問一下在私人企業的這一部分你們現在目前為止你們覺得效果怎麼樣 |
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當然我們都覺得很不安全面啦很不安全面 但是也要好好在經濟部主持那間興業也要說私營的創意下去談的部分主委你可不可以舉一個例子告訴大家就是說以企業這個客語友善企業的角度來講有沒有幾個比較好的例子可以鼓勵大家做示範的 |
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哪一家醫院表現特別好? |
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你就直接講因為我覺得鼓勵鼓勵做這樣好事的企業我覺得很棒像人家立新醫院立新醫院很好 |
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好我現在之所以會提這個問題是因為你曾經有叫做多元文化企業的社會責任客語友善企業獎也就是說我願意去花資源去投入去改善環境的這些企業我就給你光榮給你頒獎就像我剛剛講的你要把好的好人好事說出來嘛那我注意到第一屆這111年12月28號有做過一次第一次的頒獎第二屆則是在112年12月28第三屆好像就沒有下文了這個原因是什麼呢 |
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目前還沒有有新的協議進行所以要感謝委員提醒我們就要主動跟協議那邊聯絡所以等於現在是遇到瓶頸的意思嗎沒錯 |
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這個我希望還是在課委會在這個地方還是可以加大力度來做處理啦因為我覺得方向是正確的不能停在公部門這剛剛我已經講得很清楚那另外本席做個建議就是說在獎項的設計上他其實因為就本席的了解啦你要突然之間一次到完全到位其實恐怕很困難我想這也是為什麼你會陷入瓶頸的原因嘛因為你要一次把這個整個友善環境佈建起來你可能要花很多的資源多拼很多的人力之類的那我覺得也可以鼓勵企業用階段性的方式來處理 |
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那換言之你要怎麼樣來鼓勵怎麼樣來補助呢其實你可以把比如說獎助的項目你可以分成階段啊比如說同職獎、銀職獎、金職獎嘛或者是一星到五星等等一方面這個現在已經有在做的他還可以再進步嘛本來我環境一般班60分的我到80分的時候我可以再得獎 |
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那一般來講我如果從0分先到20分、40分你也可以讓他給予鼓勵我覺得這是把這個整體的門檻往下降的一種方式那我覺得用這樣的方式來推廣這個對於很多企業來講他可能會比較願意去嘗試去營造客語的友善環境請問主委對這件事你建議的想法現在我們在研究在幾個月之前這樣縫縮的口行所以我們請專家好早也要講第一線的行業單位在討論 |
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那這個部分你們討論的結果什麼時候會有一個比較具體的時間我是很擔心討論討論之後就沒下文啦這跟我待會的問題有關啦來 這樣三張要做得嗎我們要請那些民間的代理來討論一下 |
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好你們研究一下沒關係會後齁這個時間時間到的時候書面報告送過來好不好讓我們了解說這個事情的辦理的狀況我還是用鼓勵的心態來談這件事情就只要你可以做可以有進步甚至是你可以突破瓶頸這我想對於建構友善的客語環境它會是一個比較加分的項目 |
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我剛之所以講時間很重要是因為我要問第二個題目也就是有關於這個是本期之前雖然你那時候還沒有上任但本期那時候其實就問了就是有關於企業ESG納入客家語言推動的這件事情這同樣在客委會第一會期的業務報告裡面有講基於推動國家語言文化多樣性的目標這個當初就在1月跟3月邀集了經管會文化部 園民會等等都有來做協商希望可以修正這個經管會可以修正 |
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上市上櫃公司 企業社會責任實務守則也就是說做哪一些符合ESG嘛那要把多元語言文化把它列入維護社會公益的實踐範疇換言之就是你如果推廣友善環境你也算是盡了一份社會責任這ESG的部分這樣把它納入這個推動項目那第一位其實本期問過之前的主委楊昌正主委就是說我們說那時候講說這個到底有沒有進度 |
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然後他說那個時候開會對於條文守則的修正其實已經有一定的共識正在跟金管會討論然後那個時候他就講說這個這個一樣跟我講幾個月之內會給我一個交代但是喔 主委這個有時候現實比較骨感啦這一年過去了請問現在辦理的情況怎麼樣 |
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我跟議員報告,我們內地的事件,就有看到他的題目也有在他的事情,目前我們沒有提條文在南約那裡說的,所以目前就在他的進度沒有提條文卡住了?沒有辦法把推廣語言友善環境納入ESG的原因是什麼呢?是誰在反對呢?或者是說誰有什麼壓力,或是你有沒有困難? |
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因為那個說 其實他要去認知施主心 要施主心依然還在占過大部分我們無法用我們窮之力量去跟他約束 故所以會遇到這樣的困難 |
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就本席的了解你只是把多元語言的環境建構納入也就是說你願意做這件事情你就算符合ESG嘛所以其實你把它納進去企業做或不做還是在他嘛企業願意做他就可以得分嘛那不願意做那他可以做別的項目來符合企業社會責任嘛所以我覺得這個好像不衝突了是不是請你再補充說明一下 |
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目前還是有這樣的困難,但是本來年餘的條文要加壓的部分推廣的部分,難易也要申告目前是這樣,要加壓也要難易申告出去,所以故事沒有提條文,只是要明列 |
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好 你一樣把這個東西的推動進度包含你遇到的困難因為我想知道這整個概念遇到什麼樣的阻力啦你又遇到困難也許可以解決嘛 對不對跨部會的溝通也許可以有一個好的結果所以你在推動中遇到什麼樣的困難你打算用什麼樣的策略來調整來因應然後同樣可以完成這個目標你一樣啦 這個會後提供書面報告給本席 好嗎好好 謝謝主委 辛苦了好 我們請市委政委員 |
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謝謝主席 我們請客委會主委好 請主委 |
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其實我們非常支持要推展各家文化那也支持應該樂見青年族群可以透過音樂去接觸客語但是文化的推廣不能失焦也不能跟高度政治化的場域綁在一起在您的報告當中有提到說會與大港開唱合作推動客家流行音樂 |
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那當然除了大港開唱之外還有浪人記 啪啪嘉年華這些那可是在大港開唱今年的活動現場我們看到歌手楊淑雅她在台上說音樂是政治 政治是音樂然後女人是政治 身體是政治身分也是政治而且還感謝現場舉著台灣獨立旗幟 |
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呼籲大家要支持罷免志工並支持替罷免花蓮團隊加油而且高喊大罷免大成功請問一下這樣的內容是文化推廣還是政治動員 |
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阿雄,因為民意方面都跟政治有關,也跟政治特別有關我們的所有事情都在文化、政治、沙非之間的圈一體 |
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所以谷主委的意思是您支持大港開唱的這些團體在整個音樂會上就提出要叩召大家罷免,大罷免大成功對,我們支持用音樂專業來發揮文化的創作所以我們支持他們用音樂來發揮但音樂是來推動大罷免這樣子 |
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到底嗎?並不必說,我認為尊崇敏是一個人共贏,他自己的政治立場,但是我們的支持也引起了發展。好,請問一下,請問一下國主委,剛剛從您的回答,事實上我覺得這個已經跟政治不一樣了,我們當然支持音樂,我們也支持年輕人,把青年的這個族群的音樂,透過音樂來接觸客語,可是當天我想這樣的一個狀況, |
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很明顯的就是在替這個罷團在這個罷免花蓮團隊加油那而且在支持罷免志工我覺得這樣子的狀況在整個音樂活動上面事實上是失焦的那聽起來您好像也不反對嘛那請問一下您在這個我們的報告裡面說會跟大港開唱合作推動客家流行音樂那請問針對大港開唱你沒有補助經費嗎 |
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Q&A以前有,但是今年沒有,今年沒有播出禁錶,但是也在大趕開場,雖然沒有播出禁錶,但也有請學家的學術、研究人員進行學習,所以我覺得也要再正面的做法 |
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大港開唱的團體也已經有對外也對媒體聲明說他們不會接受政府的補助這他們對媒體有這樣的說明那為什麼你們在這個報告裡面都還要在特別寫說你們要去跟大港開唱合作這個推廣推動流行客家音樂 |
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不會讓大港開場,我們要替全台灣我覺得我們相關的團體其實非常多,不要一直只侷限於大港開場我覺得有很多優質的團體,其實我們都可以請他們一起來參與推廣我們客家活動那既然大港開場都說不要接受政府的補助,我覺得我們也不必勒連去替人家冷屁股 |
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所以這部分我覺得要好好的慎選我們補助的團體那也有很多很多的客家團體其實是很值得我們來補助的因為當然台倉還有歷史還有歷史 還有那個軍隊還有他的營養節做得這樣合作的補助金需的法院的合格的營養營但是他們就不需要政府補助金費嘛 |
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我說他們不需要政府補助經費啊他們也公開這樣說另外我再想請教一下這個谷主委就是說我們現在立法院在第三會期的預算審查中有凍結了藝文傳播推展預算三千萬元 |
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那當時是請客委會只要提出詳細的報告經內政委員會同意後就可以動質那請主委說明一下針對我們這個議員推展預算中凍結的3000萬客委會是不是已經有提出解凍報告 |
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目前這樣結盤有規矩 但是要建設到緊批 緊批在之前的總預算請問主委 我的題目是針對藝文推展預算中所凍結的三千萬元 你們有沒有提出解凍報告 |
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目前針對客委會我們所提出的凍結案你們有哪一個案子提出凍結報告 |
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目前都很忙 因為要檢測毒菌費三處醫生有六百三十六億韓盟客廳要省奶的部分所以我沒辦法整堆的部分提出來請問一下何時可以提出解凍?還是有誰要求你們不要提出解凍嗎?沒有 |
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你們現在不解凍然後一直對外說因為預算被刪預算被凍所以沒有辦法推展什麼業務那我覺得這樣子就是有點自相矛盾我們很樂意你們隨時能夠提出解凍的一個報告那只要解凍報告提出來之後呢我們經過內政委員會同意當然就可以馬上來執行了 |
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跟議員說明 過去幾天刪除的預算1.9億等級的3.6億 但是在以外有可能含有因為以這一件我剛剛講的預算推展這個議員推展預算這一件的3000萬 |
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你們提出解凍報告有什麼困難嗎其實也不會影響到你們的預算呢這個部分我覺得請這個主委盡快把解凍的報告送上來我們就會把預算解凍讓你們可以正常的運作那另外就是我知道主委其實非常重視就是有關的課宇的推廣 |
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那尤其是我想也有各項各項的活動那其實根據客委會公告委託的110年全國客家人口與語言基礎的調查也是我們目前可以看到最新的調查我們的客家民眾整體會說客語的比例已經從105年的46.8% |
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跌到110年的38.3%5年掉了8.5那會聽得懂課餘的比例也從64.3掉到56.4%那年輕族群更是斷崖式的流失13到18歲只有11.4%會說流利的課餘19到29歲則只有15.7%會說流利的課餘請問一下針對這個部分我們課委會有沒有什麼方式能夠來協助 |
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這個這方面的能夠提升我們的這個年輕族群還有兒童能夠能夠把他的課餘能力增加感謝委員對於要修飾下去看去我們目前全面各方面都要去照顧到養育法律去提升學校、社區特別家庭等等不過我要跟委員報告這裡要去跟他報告就我們 |
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重啟低估的 也會擬言複雜的困難度跟複雜性所以我們也要讓醫生嚴嚴不勞煩請那主委準備來怎麼做因為現在你說低估了這個客語認證的複雜性那請問你們要怎麼來去 |
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處理這個問題比方說 比方說我們在學校說學校開行業班有一個生育的學校我們就要教但是目前我們所在的社區有的營業沒有實質所以沒辦法教我們要不要變醫生來拚實質 入獄下來所以目前 目前課委會有編預算來培養實質嗎 |
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不行 不行 我要說的那個不行那不夠為什麼你們不多編一點預算呢這樣編的但是立法院還是增加了很多今年還是增加了很多預算不是嗎但是不行 不行你只要能夠提出來你們所編列的預算是用在對的地方 用在正確的地方基本上 |
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我想我們之前也講過啦如果你預算不夠甚至也可以追加減啦你要提出來你要有完整的計劃提出來那幾天我們都會提出來 故事還要講喔我們要這樣提出來的意思是說我們要這樣建築其實是嚴嚴不辣的啦我們要提國面 國面上要有國台的尊重就是我想 |
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因為時間的關係 所以說我想因為其實近五年的課餘能力的認證的總參加人數跟通過率我想你那邊應該都有資料那其中19歲以下的年輕族群的通過人數跟比例有沒有實際的提升還有這些數據是否與政策的推廣的成果相符而且針對各縣市辦理的這個課餘認證班我希望你能夠提供我近三年補助金額參加人數跟課程後續的追蹤成效 |
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我們共同來去探討一下要怎麼來去解決這樣的事情好嗎好我們會再提供好我們會再提供好我們會再提供好我們會再提供好我們會再提供好我們會再提供好我們會再提供好我們會再提供好我們會再提供好我們會再提供好我們會再提供好我們會再提供好我們會再提供好我們會再提供好我們會再提供好我們會再提供好我們會再提供好我們會再提供好我們會再提供好我們會再提供好我們會再提供 |
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他們雖然是民間團體那過去也一直因為被查水表例如用這種言論審查的方式思想審查的方式去干預他們的藝術性的表演所以今年他們也沒有領補助那連沒有領補助都可以被查水表可想而知過去他們是多麼的辛苦那大港開唱過去也一直以來都是非常包容本土文化扶植本土文化的一個音樂祭在這邊一定要幫他們來說明一下好那再來我們請張宏祿召位 |
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喔好丁薛忠委員丁薛忠委員丁薛忠委員不在我們請張宏祿召委好啦我請主委 |
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總召委主委早我先這樣子今天好多的委員都問請教你問你為什麼不送解動案什麼我知道身為一個客委會的主委我們在這邊一定要用客家話來回答這是尊重我們的族群你也知道我也算客家人不過 |
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我拜託主委30秒你用大家聽得懂的國語說一下不然你會造成誤解啊我覺得這一點很重要啦我身為也是半個客家人我真的請你用國語說一下給大家聽30秒 |
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好跟大家報告我們的預算課會的預算被刪了1.9億那但是還有留一個統刪不足636億要行政院自行調整而這個636億要在哪一個部會哪一個科目下刪多少的預算都沒有明獎那沒有明獎的情況下我們當然沒有辦法送這個解凍案因為 |
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因為這個是刪除如果客會刪的比1.9億還多那我們的解凍的數字會跟著調刪除的數字也會跟著調所以這個是困難所在好 沈蒙其實你講的客竅話我都聽得懂但今天在這個國會殿堂我們必須還是要對全國的民眾讓他們知道不然到時候你被誤解你就不知道要怎麼去跟誰說 |
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對不對我覺得再來今天大家也都一直在講要提振客家化啦你像年輕人啦主委你覺得一個文化一個信仰那我們以台灣的客家族群來講就好了你覺得什麼最能夠引起共鳴然後跟大家最容易了解你覺得 |
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委員指的意思是在台灣還是客家的部分台灣的客家就在台灣的客家然後呢在文化在語言你覺得哪一種是最容易讓人家了解的我覺得是如果讓人能夠了解親近我不是考題啦你放心答應該是跟生活有跟生活有關沒錯跟生活有關的像那個影響民眾最大的OK但我們再限縮一點點 |
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大概是什麼?譬如說教堂、醫療,還有那個審判,審判裡面的善良、謹記,他的審判裡面的私寵等等。我跟你講,信仰,我覺得信仰是最容易的啦。你看我們的客家,我們的北港的文化或什麼的,其實我覺得在這裡面, |
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我一直覺得你那個博工照護站或什麼那不是不好 那很好但我們如果以生活一點你去看台灣有很多的廟宇他辦得非常好大家搶著要去拜拜 要去幹嘛要去讓神明給你加持什麼的那你覺得我們如果要推展客家的文化跟客家的語言我們有一個長期的 |
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我們從客家的信仰裡面開始來著手 主委你覺得可不可惜?那些好的想法 因爲在信仰那些沒有地盤 我們的一個綜合體所謂的綜合體 如果我寫下去 可能會成為最大的學法接觸到最大的跟學界有關的理想風俗 還有一個風雄 |
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一個信仰也可以讓主委你說的年輕人去參與那就像剛剛主委你說的在這個信仰在這個裡面客家話講最多啦然後連客家的音樂也可以出來連客家的美食什麼都可以出來那我們可以辦全國一系列的這個 |
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把錢花在刀口上然後讓大家覺得很有趣然後也是信仰去拜拜就能夠得到神明的庇佑 |
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然後這個是不分族群都可以去拜拜都可以得到這個神明的庇佑我個人覺得如果這樣子去推廣大家又可以吃到美食又可以接觸到所有的文化然後你的客家幣在這邊花也可以促進這個地方的經濟然後跟廟宗教信仰結合起來我覺得那個是非常快速去發展的诸葛你覺得 |
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我們可以去討論研究看來是用的盤理的方式 當然要跟新用錢結合我覺得就像主委講的 跟信仰結合 然後我們一次也不要心太大我們有幾個 |
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客家人常常去拜的比如說三三國王比如說土地公那你也可以先從土地公開始啊從北中南然後各地大的土地公我們今年先來辦這個啊然後北中南然後這樣子一連一連串的活動這樣子我覺得那客家幣在這邊花也讓這些攤販這些什麼的大家可以賺到錢啊去到那邊可以接觸到很 |
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很實際的客家文化啦 我是這樣建議啦 那主委你思考一下啦齁那再來 剛剛也有很多委員啦 一直在講童話劑啦主委 我不知道啦齁你對童話的感覺 那我對童話的感覺其實它不只是漂亮而已 |
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以前多少客家人是靠銅花吃飯的主委是不是啊有一段時間這樣對不對有一段時間這個銅花是養活了不少客家人像我們中部苗栗那邊也很多是靠這個啊做茶嫁做什麼的很多啊都是用這些啊主委我們如果去日本賞櫻花你會去看一個地方而已嗎還是去看很多地方 |
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我那邊就有地方很多地方嘛對不對所以很可惜耶我們台灣的童話劇我一直看看看都給縣市政府辦我不認為那是也不是說他錯啦但就沒有一個一連串的北中南或什麼或是給國外的人來這個童話劇對客家的精神有多重要然後在這裡面我們童話劇可以北中南三天的行程五天的行程 |
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台灣人也可以去啊外國人你也可以去推銷啊東南亞多少客家客家人對不對我們是不是可以包裝一個這個行程對不對然後陳董事長也在大家互相配合然後去宣傳我覺得 |
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對不對然後如果你跟我剛講的信仰的又如果時間可以配合到的又可以重複因為我覺得以生活當中啦去推推廣這個客家文化不知道主委你你的感覺我認同對審法地盤人民有感阿故所的委員講的 |
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旅行 旅遊 信用 文化 環境 全部都結合起來還有食物最重要的還有目前 要不要像這樣推動可以啦 我覺得我們可以試試看啦 好不好 主委好 謝謝感謝 總召委好 謝謝張宏陸召委再來我們請徐欣盈委員 |
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主席 |
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現在一個立法院小學堂的考試請秀第一張投影片我們去年在審查今年總預算的時候我們在內政委員會內政委員會的提案表 |
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主委他會等於是最後的決議嗎所以我在這裡凍結該項預算4億元最後改成怎麼樣 |
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現在的主決議在報告上很低我想這個應該不是課委會刻意流出去給很多的網軍策略沒有沒有,現在應該會有更快的諮詢所以我今天這個 |
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立法院小學堂就是希望讓很多的年輕人關心立法院非常好但是要了解真相不要拿提案表 |
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就拿來說這個是決議好不好我先問你我先問你等一下要不要過去決議以前要出席他跟董燕你也要再拋棄也有可能重申啦我如果讓你說不准兩下 |
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今年 今年二月開始他拿的所以這早就改了啦好 沒關係 不用浪費我時間不是 還蠻改的部分啦 剛才說的你用版 妳用版安定啦我再測試一下沒有啦 不用啦我們要推敲啦因為那時間有落差嘛那拿走就是原始版啦那沒關係嘛 你現在澄清了嘛提案不等於決議嘛對 而且最後是改組決議只要報告 對不對 |
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結論是這樣那現在在哪來講有意義嗎?譬如說今年2月、3月、4月到現在講凍結肆意有意義嗎?還是有意義,因為這是一個過程不是過程,他是一直講現在被凍結肆意不要不要 |
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我現在在講這個案你浪費我很多時間我在講這個案你不要再去講到業務費我在講這個案有凍結事宜嗎最後的結論目前時候提報告好啦提報告嘛提報告沒有凍結那你為什麼不講你就講一下沒有凍結嘛我有凍結事宜嗎現在再答覆我一次 |
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主決意就沒有凍結的那個你真的搞不懂,連你都搞不懂沒有啦,一個經同意後使得凍結 |
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沒有啦 凍結預算4億就劃掉啦所以沒有凍結 摸凍結你看 你知道主委一個主委對這個提案 用了我三分多鐘了接下來 我想 |
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我們客語的傳承還有客家文化的傳承剛剛我們張宏祿召委講得非常好他有說錢要花在刀口上 |
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但是我們也非常肯定 客核會長期以來做了很多客語推廣的努力包含網路有多元課程 包含客語的認證辦了很多翻譯世界名著 還有培訓了很多公開宣講員這個都做了很多 沒錯但是我們看到的是這個數量 |
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這個成果用這樣子的量化可是輕忽了它的品質跟我們的最終的目的是要推廣客語所以客語它是一種語言就跟我們不管學台語還是學英語一樣那需要的是環境我想主委你認同吧你只要講認同不認同就是說語言它需要的是環境而且是盡量要融入在生活中您認同嗎 |
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我的念頭,我念頭,但是要反經,那不是一間人建立下來的對,我知道,當然當然,我沒有說,我沒有再往下講,還沒往下講啦所以呢,我們在這邊希望建議就是說,你量化的指標,是不是可以轉化成客語在日常生活中的使用 |
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就說你們做了那麼多但是是不是接下來包括今年的預算開始使用的時候你要讓課宇怎麼樣可以真正在每個區塊每個區塊可以討論的環境我們的環境能夠在每個區塊每個區塊你慢慢的從一個區塊比如說南部 |
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南部他比較少客家莊但是有客家莊的地方客家人的地方你讓他一個區塊把讓這個客語可以慢慢的成為生活然後擴散就像我會哭人但是呢喉嚨會哭的事但每當你哭的時候你會哭 |
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所以我們應該讓這個客語的這種生活上的應用更多還有包含我們這個這麼多量化的指標大家你在報告中也一直寫然後每年我們也花了很多的預算那我們有沒有促進跨世代的自然傳承 |
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也就是說要一代一代傳下去那還有就是說我們課語考試認證通過了那是否有代表他在市場在家庭在鄰里之間呢大家可以很自然的用課語來溝通甚至讓更多的人他可能不一定很會講但他已經都聽得懂課語或是可以聽得懂一半 |
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或者是他講得出幾句客語其實就像我對台語我都聽得懂然後我可以講部分我沒辦法講得很認真對台語但是我聽得懂我可以跟人家溝通那我要講的話我就講幾句我還可以叫我全部講我又沒辦法所以我們的客語可不可以朝向這方面我們來推廣的好一點 |
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當然圖羅維研所說的沒有錯,其實我們說的抑鬱要罰錢,我們妹妹預算不拿所以它又一點幾又散了你一直要強調這個經費,那我覺得我們現在在談預算很多人談預算的人他沒有關心你真正刻意的傳承 |
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所以主委你不要落入那個我們客家人我們都是客家人其實所有的政治人物包括所有的這些網軍側翼他來喊喊喊喊到最後我們自己客家人要知道我的客語是不是真的在地方有推廣 |
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是不是在台灣 客語跟客家文化是保存下來的那會說啊 通生過台灣啦 沒搬兩千啦三萬大便 江山江天啦所以他們現在的進行是 三萬大便啦 |
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所以客委會的預算每年也增加所以不要老是用這種意識形態好不好我現在講 不然你生命就好了不然你生命就好了 |
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我們現在課餘 我們花了那麼多錢我們要知道 陸續要寫不勞拜 要寫不勞拜永遠不夠啦不勞拜 因為你那個負責 過困難最後 最後 你會說兩件事 我跟你說你們在報告裡面 你要花 發客家幣客家幣 你要發這個一千塊發四十萬人 等於花四億 |
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人家文化幣文化幣是給年輕人的成人禮客家幣發給18到20歲的年輕人你這是什麼理由我沒有反對喔我應該先講我支持客家預算但是我更支持是我們所有的預算 |
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假設別人有更好的成果比你用少的錢或用跟你一樣的錢他有更好的成果你不要一直喊我錢要多然後都不去看成果我們要強調的是你成果要出來所以你花這個4億的客家幣你先說這個是什麼禮人家文化幣是成年禮你是什麼禮 |
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通過特意認證的你不要給他抽籤嘛 |
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通過客語認證你就每個人發他一千塊我建議這第一個第二個預計發放四十萬客家幣你卻只有預估三十二萬人前往客庄人家發一千塊一個人就會帶一家人或帶兩三個朋友前往 |
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你發了四十萬客家幣一人一千四十萬人結果你只預計三十二人次前往喔 這個消息效益太差了 我要請李燕報告李燕報告 李燕報告 李燕報告 李燕報告 李燕報告 李燕報告 李燕報告 李燕報告 李燕報告 李燕報告 李燕報告 李燕報告 李燕報告 李燕報告 李燕報告 李燕報告 李燕報告 李燕報告 李燕報告 李燕報告 李燕報告 李燕報告 李燕報告 李燕報告 李燕報告 李燕報告 李燕報告 李燕報告 李燕報告 李� |
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但是不要一直說不夠我們要看有限的錢我們怎麼做得最好但是我全力支持客家預算你現在你就說嘛我給你4億發客家幣 |
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你既然是40萬人你只預計32萬人前往這不太誇張了你報告裡寫的啊本案估計才動你預估就估太少了啦我知道你前面浪費了我很多時間謝謝 |
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好 中介病 中介病 中介病委員不在 楊瓊瑜 楊瓊瑜 楊瓊瑜委員不在鄭振淺 鄭振淺 鄭振淺委員不在林國成 林國成 林國成委員不在林俊憲 林俊憲 林俊憲委員不在何慶淳 何慶淳 何慶淳委員不在請徐富奎委員謝謝召委 有請我們組委好 請組委 |
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請問 主委 主委 我要質詢之前 我先看今天第一個標題不是唐山過台灣沒辦點錢 不是唐山過台灣沒辦點錢是唐山過台灣沒辦點錢 主委 這個我看今天早上的業務報告我當然問幫人家張宏祿委員 總廳擔心那些錢沒下來 |
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若不放棄的話 我想我們作為一個平衡的核桿自體我們要再想想 平衡的建設會不會不堅強注意 若不對平衡的核桿的建設 有什麼看法會不會因為我們的總預算的減少 受到衝擊 |
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養熊是一定會養熊的 因為目前我們看到我們的醫生3.91% 還有凍結3.62%那些過去以來沒有的狀況 今年最陽春 |
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這就是合併醫生本來就在國庫市面前清掃的醫生40億已經是清掃的做的事情暗斗 也要學習依賴政策不是依賴公營 沙啡沒有 依賴政策我所謂的政策是隔10天 醫生沒有天然的行業 落差又太大所以我認為40億都可以清掃的錢 |
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其實做討論做得散但是也要散的途徒,這才是特大 |
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今天宋伯通主委有討論過像我們園民會 園營協助團的策略度但是依算是我們客戶的記憶比我們還是要自己努力啦可能因為針對我們所有客家鄉鎮的軟硬體的建設還要奉免 包括藝文還要恰恰奉奉可以整理整理以後可以做民宿 做觀光 |
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其實有些人在那裡學生的有機會多多少少人在那裡提防我們在那裡安居之類的我想主委是用那裡的設施去做 |
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不錯不錯 我知道這樣提防藥再多的需求提防藥再多的需求所以我提醒大家 醫生很重要的在醫生院所在國上去其實對所有的年齡都不太好對藥發展都不太好我想藥丸藥也有同樣的所有民進黨的立場一定會來支持有拜託主委 |
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將被刪除含有凍結的部分加進去盤點 讓我們加進去送出來我們加進去努力啦我們希望合格委員會可以發揮的作用改造可以做的事改造 尤其是我們合格的鄉親 因為在交台啦這樣好不好好 感謝委員的支持 感謝 |
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主委,我想今天我們合格煎炮城的六堆每年公園會創邀一個節慶活動判的規模引入印太,我們也被列為全國合葬十二大的節慶活動之一,我想主委要支持,要服從但是呢,我們調查一些資料,再抽明年補助金額 |
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沒有改動,差不多兩百萬,其實要兩百萬,要判在法庭還這麼辛苦啦主委,您有看這個事情嗎?我們剛才要緊批,有國稅一事啦,全面 |
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從今年來,省錢的優惠比去年還要薄所以,那些醫生,說來說去,還是很多醫生如果醫生,他的規模,做這樣的態勢所以,做的支持,我們的企業,一定會支持啦 |
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| transcript.whisperx[338].end |
9760.822 |
| transcript.whisperx[338].text |
主委我們現在台灣我們沒有分北課南課我們國庫課委會還支持我們浪漫台三線像我們的六堆也是我們合格再創造一個場域我們想國庫 |
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| transcript.whisperx[339].end |
9782.217 |
| transcript.whisperx[339].text |
看到學位費,針對我們浪漫台山縣,五、七、十一的金費,這樣投資下去就漏印錢,不然這樣,南部的學館員,讚美羨慕啦,看到這樣實在是天壤之別,我認為,主委要請教南部的學館員,針對他們的落差,要怎麼處理,讓他們入隊的學館員,更有平衡感啦。 |
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莫不愧是羅曼陀三先生大出名聲請問在六對法定的合作我們可以由國台的法庭出來目前在國內當中包括法庭、媒體的宣傳等等我們可以從六對和特區選舉進行 |
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我們是拜託主委啦吼,我們依依我們委員會主委拜託的講其實因為我們現在在屏東攀佛洞,我們還集中在一個鄉鎮攀,我們有八個合格鄉鎮,讓人家要行一套科目,我們有法律啦吼,我們希望八個鄉鎮總會有針對不一樣地方特色,攀起它的藝文活動,甚至我們再度合格的邀請, |
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他來創業做大店長的計劃我們應該要做更好的基盤主要來支持好嗎我們在各方研究來支持所以最後我們說 |
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也有委員提到客家畢業的事情有提出一個質疑問題國勇司他提的是跟屏東縣兩個部署的對象共用沒有共用國勇司是年滿20歲屏東縣是18到20歲客委會也沒有共用18到20歲另外共同的部分就說 |
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| transcript.whisperx[344].text |
117年的課餘認證含有合格的合課餘的家庭成員我們想中央同地方擁有無窮用的補助的年齡的問題問題出您來 |
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要在過程中進行討論和辯論所以有請提防政府來討論的時節我沒有強調,我沒有強調解脫所以目前全國的統一不能有良的版本 |
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沒有另外的版本 一個版本 要不然是18歲還是20歲?18歲到20歲 最多18歲到20歲 沒分因為我看到這樣 因為時間 工作時間這樣 本來要等一個年齡層後來又再加 加到18歲到20歲 |
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另外希望客家美業可以運用到合格的商家等方有這個意義但是目前合作廠商只有790多件品統案發只有61件應該不老闆 |
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不太白,因為有要求政府等於要三萬億元頂價要求主要他要用的條件,他要講學,所以要接講學的導資,聽那個因為數位支付 |
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所以要有TWQ來實驗人家的言語法律所以可能有時他用的條件沒有法律符合,沒有法律掩蓋所以要普遍來,我會再去請人家的代表再去加強 |
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主要來說一定要加強,不然量壓的錢沒辦法用,沒辦法落實人家的健康經濟對啦,是說健康經濟能夠活絡,還要再衝壓,但是一定要深入到人家的偏鄉的地方,加強的輔導這樣好嗎?是,一定可以,一定可以,這是我們自己的要求,我們自己的自我要求好,說到這裏就結束了,謝謝 |
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好 羅明財 羅明財 羅明財委員不在林儲贏 林儲贏 林儲贏委員不在邱志偉 邱志偉 邱志偉委員不在蘇清泉 蘇清泉 蘇清泉委員不在林思敏 林思敏 林思敏委員不在蔡宇宇 蔡宇宇 蔡宇宇委員不在葉遠志 葉遠志 葉遠志委員不在我都不在 齊委員還跟自己在 |
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| transcript.whisperx[352].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[352].text |
好登記發言委員除不在場者外其餘禁語發言完畢詢答結束委員高進樹美林思敏丁學中所提書面質詢列入紀錄刊登公報書面質詢何為及答覆部分請相關單位於一週內以書面答覆並複製本會本日會議到此結束現在上會 |