| IVOD_ID |
165959 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/165959 |
| 日期 |
2025-11-27 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-4-36-12 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第4會期司法及法制委員會第12次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
4 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
12 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
36 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
司法及法制委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第4會期司法及法制委員會第12次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-11-27T10:00:33+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-11-27T10:12:21+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:11:48 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/0f4b7ea3958158593fb8e7e64054bf34d6356a8ccaa37a42432a9691d58560b2d1d510c8f51747fa5ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
羅智強 |
| 委員發言時間 |
10:00:33 - 10:12:21 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-11-27T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第4會期司法及法制委員會第12次全體委員會議（事由：邀請司法院副秘書長、法務部次長、教育部次長、衛生福利部次長、內政部警政署等就「成少共犯如何解？院、檢、警協作與社政教育體系整合策進展望」進行專題報告，並備質詢。） |
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主席有請司法院中廳長以及我們法務部徐次長還有內政部的蕭副局長好 請中廳長 徐次長還有蕭副局長委員長我現在先請教次長炸期嚴重嗎情況蠻嚴重的我們目前打炸的司法人力足夠嗎 |
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不能用足夠來講就是說我們的業務負擔很重好 業務負擔很重那我們來看看我們現在這個人力的分配跟工作分配上到底出了什麼問題我看到這個高等台灣高等法院這個月13號的一宗刑事判決有一個長年旅居國外的成性女子被控在回台灣的時候在區公所外拿走一把傘 |
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結果遭檢方依竊盜罪起訴 纏送一年半法院一審判定監視器畫質太糊 根本看不清竊賊的臉而且成女所提出的手機記錄跟社會局列印資料的時間點 |
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證明竊賊偷閃的同時他人根本還在區公所內所以或判無罪那我想請教市長你知道檢方接下來採取的行動是什麼嗎我們尊重檢察官檢方還是上訴二審啦還是上訴啦結果高院在何怡婷判決裡她再次詳細說明成女應該判無罪的理由 |
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但也大篇幅的抨擊檢警追訴犯罪是違反比例原則在這個案子上Eason已經跟你講不可能是陳女士竊賊但Eason的公訴檢察官沒有再積極舉證他的竊盜犯行用例行公事的心態來提出上訴他也特別指出啊 |
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就算檢察官認為有足夠的犯罪嫌疑立法者仍然賦予檢察官違罪不舉或還起訴處分的裁量權那這個案件根本違反比例原則而且還損及無辜民眾對於各自的保護你知道這位陳姓女子她要面對什麼樣的一個司法的一個爛訴的糾纏跟消耗嗎 請問市長 |
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這個案件會拖這麼久 中間應該就是有大概就是否認那否認的話就是我告訴你連續被兩個省級法院電你導致他要在一省二省偵查不斷的委請律師光律師費幾百把傘都可以買了更何況人家還說根本沒有證據 |
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我想點這個事情上次我在質詢我們的部長的時候我講另外一個例子給大家聽清潔隊員撿到一個廢棄的電鍋殘值32元他看到一個拾荒老婦覺得很可憐就把電鍋送給拾荒老婦請問次長這位清潔隊員最後的下場是什麼下場是什麼 |
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被以貪污治罪條例起訴啦這個構成要件就是貪污治罪條例喔來了喔我還是要特別講啊32元的電鍋沒關係啊你要講構成要件你們的部長還講說這個他不合理啊他要再修法啦是我們有在修12條我們有這個修法計畫你知道我今天質詢問你第一個問題是什麼我知道就詐騙詐騙的人力的問題對啊 |
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我覺得今天司法官很辛苦警察很辛苦連法官都很辛苦檢察官都很辛苦台灣詐騙爆天亮你光打詐都已經是沒有力氣了 |
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但是我看到你們今天花很多功夫在一些我直接講我真的覺得很奇怪的案子上面在消耗司法能力啊那些法官還要進來去判這些無聊的一把傘的案子連證據都收集不齊全就隨便送到法院去一審二審都打臉還是一樣啊因為引理如意要上訴啊就一把屈公所愛的傘啊法院還說根本就不是他啊 |
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結果人家偵查一審二審要跑來跑去 我想請問市長律師費誰出 你出嗎不是吧沒有沒有 這個律師費誰出嘛來 我想請問我們的廳長請問這個當事人律師費是誰出的當然是當事人出對啊除非我們有月券除非是他這個中低收入付一審一審就十萬塊啦去申請法兩審就二十萬啦 |
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侦查阶段是不是要请律师出庭几十万就没了啦一把伞多少钱啊7-11买60块新伞啊可以买多少把伞要不要算一算我为什么要讲这个事情我再来讲下一件事来就像上次我质询的来请教次长太子集团什么时候进到台湾的 |
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進來台灣多久了如果是情資的話應該是一百零八吧我直接講啦 我告訴你啦 進來台灣九年啦警管會通報你們有六年啦調查局說開始辦有四年啦辦到最後美國開始十月八號動作之後我們開始搜索 對不對約談抓人啦 對不對 |
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在那之前 有沒有搜索 沒有有沒有約談證人 沒有有沒有今天分案調查 沒有可是我要講 45億是小錢嗎 請問次長不是嘛 這麼大的違法金流在台灣串了九年 |
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通報就六年調查就四年包括司法警察是有掌握相關的線索掌握真好啊掌握真好既沒搜索也沒約談對不對那我前置犯罪的但是你們交保還蠻大方的抓到八成都交保那個是比例的是在這個警察裡面我跟你們講那個特助啊十五萬交保還抓到我們院長震怒咧我們院長不是震怒 |
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打擊詐欺人員士氣但他批的是法院但結果是什麼地方法院還發新聞稿說那是訓後交保那跟法院沒有關係這都後話我要回頭講的重點在哪裡我們今天看到你今天為什麼今天整個的所謂的打詐人力的不足 |
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我光看今天檢察官 我們的司法系統 我們檢察官剪掉我都覺得你們的 有時候辦的效率也是很好啊我印象很深刻啊有一個民眾在網路上貼了一個綠色的雞蛋說是黑心臭雞蛋 他也沒說這雞蛋是什麼喔 哪裡來的喔他也只是說他買來的喔結果呢 八個小時被約談 被抓起來他速度也很快啊 |
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然後有貼檢察官照片對不對也是一樣啊火速啊幾個小時就抓到人啊你這些點點滴滴看起來那麼有效率的事情在這種事情上那我們看到詐欺9年無動於衷貼個綠色雞蛋8小時抓到人啊9年無動於衷你叫人民怎麼看啊 |
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我上一次質詢我對部長光跟一個民怨第一名這句話吳宗憲講的跟他吵架吵個三分鐘我就不懂了到底為什麼我再問一次嘛TBS最新民調多少人認為台灣炸氣很嚴重百分之多少你知道嗎 次長報告委員 這個資料我沒有拿到92%你知道多少人認為不嚴重多少人 4% |
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幾乎全民共憤啊 全民公憤啊詐欺的言重是全民的公憤啊就為了一個民怨第一名在那邊吵架吵半天我還是拉回到今天你就看到了啊 那個捐電鍋的貪污起訴啊 捐鍋者誅詐欺者喉 太子集團九年開開心心 |
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然後呢沒偷閃者豬因為那個陳姓女子根本沒偷然後呢詐欺者逍遙爽九年還在爭執民怨是不是第一名我們立法院到現在為止我相信次長你知道打詐的預算我們都非常支持的包括我們主席也很支持都很支持 |
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可是今天我們看到的打詐的成效辦案的心態你關那麼多的重大詐欺案件我到現在不能理解啊就像我上次質詢我講啊如果今天說實在話如果說今天他來台三個月九個月一年喔你因為要埋線要去調查要去收證喔你說沒有關係啦那個大案子嘛 |
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不是啊 我也問過金管會啊他事實無疑是非常大的金流耶這麼大金流串來串去 台灣串來串去至少串六年 你們知道以後串六年他進來九年 但是被我不算前面金管會通報之前那三年通報你們就六年那請問你 今天我們看到為什麼講下一代很慘啊 |
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現在炸雞集團 抱歉啦已經在摧毀我們國家未來主人翁啦是不是啊 我們請教育部的我這樣講沒錯吧整個炸雞 包括車手炸雞集團侵入校園的問題越來越嚴重嘛 對不對對啊你今天如果沒有把炸雞車主根絕國家下一代陪在上面講得這麼沉重喔 |
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就希望我們的政府部門真的真的拜託啦把人力精神好好用在打詐上面謝謝 |