| IVOD_ID |
165906 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/165906 |
| 日期 |
2025-11-26 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-4-23-7 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第4會期交通委員會第7次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
4 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
7 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
23 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
交通委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第4會期交通委員會第7次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-11-26T11:57:08+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-11-26T12:09:17+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:12:09 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/f5b16bee5fdcc5c1a68034dba52f11255aa09a60c1d7224c3e04db58af4320f460fe344e844efea75ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
許智傑 |
| 委員發言時間 |
11:57:08 - 12:09:17 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-11-26T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第4會期交通委員會第7次全體委員會議（事由：一、審查（一）委員邱若華等16人擬具「道路交通管理處罰條例第三十一條之一條文修正草案」案、（二）委員徐富癸等17人擬具「道路交通管理處罰條例第七十九條條文修正草案」案、（三）委員柯志恩等16人擬具「道路交通管理處罰條例第八十六條條文修正草案」案及（四）委員黃健豪等17人擬具「道路交通管理處罰條例第九十條條文修正草案」案。
二、審查（一）委員邱若華等20人擬具「大眾捷運法第十一條條文修正草案」案、（二）委員蔡其昌等21人擬具「大眾捷運法部分條文修正草案」案及（三）委員李昆澤等20人擬具「大眾捷運法第三十九條、第四十三條及第四十三條之一條文修正草案」案。
三、審查（一）委員盧縣一等18人擬具「鐵路法第二十六條及第三十五條條文修正草案」案、（二）台灣民眾黨黨團擬具「鐵路法第五十六條之四、第六十七條之三及第六十八條之四條文修正草案」案、（三）委員李昆澤等25人擬具「鐵路法第五十六條之五條文修正草案」案、（四）委員張宏陸等18人擬具「鐵路法第六十五條條文修正草案」案、（五）委員洪孟楷等19人擬具「鐵路法第六十八條之四及第七十二條條文修正草案」案及（六）委員廖先翔等25人擬具「鐵路法第五十七條條文修正草案」案。
【本次會議僅進行詢答；開會事由三第(六)案如經院會復議，則不予審查】） |
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好 謝謝主席 我們請市長 鐵道局 台鐵公司吳市長 楊局長 以及馮總經理 請委員好謝謝 市長好 那個局長 董事長好我們先看那個大港橋BREAD PINK這一張你覺得這不錯看嗎 |
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我們城市行銷 事實上高雄市政府其實這不是市府的工作是整個城市的工作所以Blackpink的時候其實這件事情本來是小事啦但是就一直都沒有落實所以我在這邊也公開的再要求一下就是說城市行銷配合高雄的行銷那Blackpink來那大家都很熱絡然後就通通用粉紅系列 |
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那白片來的時候就只有我們鳳山車站沒有亮燈好你可以看這細節好幾個有流音中心港府我們的旅運中心美麗島捷運站愛河高雄火車站高雄車站衛武營然後私立圖書館大立等等H2O水 |
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那個我們在看右邊這一張藍色的這一次TRASH到高雄來其實每個地方也都有一起去響應那就是大港橋 雲中環 等等的都有大家可以看圖就好那我不知道這個以鐵道局的立場可能就是說那個藍色的這一天我們有拜託鐵道局有亮一天啦 |
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那我覺得這個是整個城市行銷我們鳳山車站不能獨立於外你看連高雄車站都有為什麼鳳山車站不能所以這個部分我想說我們鐵道局當然是工程單位我們能體諒工程單位比較不會思考到觀光的角度但是你看台鐵公司跟市長你們是不是覺得這個一起來響應是好事 |
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包委員 委員所提的確實剛剛講的整個城市行銷我想以台鐵公司來講這個大陸我覺得是應該要盡量配合那我不知道是不是因為他有故意到一些相關的經費或經營問題有沒有那是 |
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沒有聯繫就是現在是高雄車站現在已經交給台鐵公司了吧那鳳山車站現在還是鐵道局還沒交給台鐵公司所以這個到底量不量是要鐵道局決定還是台鐵公司決定那以我們交通部的角度我覺得是好事那看應該要怎麼做比較好 |
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我想我剛剛講的未來這個事情我會責成一個單位來負責這個事情在還沒交給台鐵之前就是由鐵道局來做啦交給那個台鐵公司以後就由台鐵公司來負責我想這窗口就這樣定那未來如果還有什麼問題我想所以我們後續在還沒交接之前就是鐵道局來負責是好那這個這是兩個你可以看到高雄車站都有點好我們看下一張 |
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這個是高雄的同志遊行那當然就是可能每個人觀念不一樣但是這個也是城市行銷你看我們的流行音樂中心好幾個地方高雄已經好幾個地方都是就是說這是一個城市行銷那台鐵那個現在鐵道局給我們的回復是說他可以點黃色的他不能點彩色的 |
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應該黃色是我們平常點燈的 平常的狀況那我想局裡面的做法應該是這樣就是說後續只要是市政府的城市行銷活動我們原則上都來配合是可以配合市府 沒問題那這個我們就要看有沒有做我想再講一個觀念 因為次長在這邊次長你可以看到我們預計 就是說 |
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之後我們要辦有可能高雄市現在要有可能要辦一個那個2028會申請一個世界同樂運動會 |
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這個是國際級的一個活動我想整個城市行銷應該是要提前做佈局所以現在就是說在鐵道局還沒交給台鐵公司之前我們就拜託鐵道局來處理事實上台鐵公司應該開始要有那個比較長遠的觀光跟我們這個商場的推動的一個視角 |
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你可以看到這個亞洲同類運動會這個是一個國際賽事那基本上其實我們還會在我們高雄市明年會有世界原住民運動會 |
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那這些其實都是來自世界各國國際人士都會來所以我想我們交通部的角度就是說我從觀光交通佈局所以我們要看得比較遠所以相對的就是說那個楊局長你可以先回座因為你這件事情只要有完成就好那後續我們會再跟那個鐵道局保持聯絡好 謝謝那這個部分我們希望說台鐵也慢慢的有這個長遠的思考 |
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所以呢這個牽涉到就是說那個交通部現在有TPAS社長很熟嘛那台鐵這個都有參與嘛那現在TPAS就是完全只是針對交通嘛但是呢 |
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你看那個大阪好玩卡它是包括交通包括景點這些都一併的考量在內那我也要求很久了我從111年就開始在講那時候王國杰當部長的時候那個時候TPAS剛開始實施那北北基一個我們高雄也率先實施所以那個時候我已經在要求這個TPAS |
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但是後來我一直希望說TPAS可以結合好玩卡現在應該是亞洲做最好的是大阪卡那大阪卡之外呢現在韓國有所謂的轉轉卡都是用交通結合景點那當然我要求這麼多次一直沒有具體的成果我是在思考TPAS的經費在公路局 |
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那景點的經費謝謝 謝謝那個市長那個景點的經費是在觀光署那這個到底有沒有辦法就是說讓交通部來主導然後看觀光局跟觀光署跟公路總局看怎麼樣去互相去配合那能夠結合好玩卡其實這個才會真正推動觀光啦那目前好玩卡其實比較成功的就是 |
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台北跟高雄我們高雄其實是目前是推動的比較好的那個觀光在地的局長高雄市政府的局長也一直在擔心說這個觀光署這個補助不知道會不會減少 |
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那我去查就說坦白講TPAS的經費真的是還不少啦當然這是好事我們都要鼓勵但是如果是結合觀光點變成好玩卡是不是交通部應該要有這個概念就是處處都是打卡點 部部都是觀光部那這樣子台灣從科技經濟跟觀光經濟的角度我們也才能夠確實的再去提升所以這個部分是不是那個次長 |
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跟公路局跟觀光署那甚至台鐵我們將來都要去做一個商業行銷這個對我們來講都有幫助這個有沒有可能會完成 |
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現在的剛提到交通的部分是已經把它放到那個TPAS裡面當景點目前是確實是應該還沒有我想我後續再針對這系統還有剛才的需求這個部長要不要回答一下這個部分我跟委員這個請他報告一下這個確實這個是兩個界面整合的一個這一個課題 |
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那後面這個就是說就是如果說比較涉及這個觀光或商家折扣這些相關的一個部分的話大概據我所了解這一個觀光署這邊大概也有台灣PASS這些相關在做一個處理那問題就是 |
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就是說兩個東西如何在整合在一張卡裡面那這個卡我也跟委員報告這個大概是一個技術性的一個課題就卡本身是一個欄位要擺放不同這個相關金額怎麼去扣款的課題 |
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那這個食物面的一個部分是那張卡到這邊也可以用到那邊也可以用那這個部分我想我們再跟觀光署這邊再來討論一下這個虛實這個怎麼有這個可行的方向可以來做一個這個處理我們再討論一下我想就是我每次問完如果回去就沒了那就我已經問很久了 |
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所以是不是就是由誰來主導公路局或者是觀光署或者是交通部來主導那這個事情總是要有一個單位他願意去主導 願意去整合你才有機會 不然我已經說三天了三天就沒結果了現在再說下去沒分配人做 後來也是沒結果了 |
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因為這兩個都不是我夜館是不是讓我回去我再跟Torrent討論一下再跟委員報告好不好我是這樣子結論坦白講在公路的角度他要去思考到全國的觀光這個觀光點的結合坦白講還要去跟很多不管是公部門還是私部門要去洽談 |
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你叫公路總局來洽談可能困難多大所以這應該是在觀光署為主導觀光署現在就是跟公路局比較就是經費的問題經費的問題看公路局跟觀光署要怎麼分配怎麼去結合這個事情我認為應該是觀光署要擔下來 |
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但是觀光署在跟TPAS的經費的分擔的時候可能拜託次長就是說以交通部比較高的層級那公務局跟觀光署怎麼樣再去協調整合找一個平衡點這樣有機會可以完成所以如果是把這件事情當作一個事情來做的話要一個靈魂去負擔這件事情要完成的靈魂人物這個靈魂人物觀光署是不是可以擔下來 |
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市長 局長 署長在這裡吧那我們就下一次只要有公路局 只要有觀光署我就要問 |
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那你們趕快協調 不然說得太久都沒用包括景點的尋找 包括經費的分擔可能交通部內部要去做一個溝通協調 好不好好 下一次準備要給我答案 好 謝謝 |