| IVOD_ID |
165881 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/165881 |
| 日期 |
2025-11-26 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-4-15-13 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第4會期內政委員會第13次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
4 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
13 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
15 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
內政委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第4會期內政委員會第13次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-11-26T10:07:23+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-11-26T10:14:58+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:07:35 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/f5b16bee5fdcc5c1c95da396ee8df3cd23d8a9895dd800e979564efc6fe1044be1bef8ca561aee985ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
張宏陸 |
| 委員發言時間 |
10:07:23 - 10:14:58 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-11-26T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
(變更議程)立法院第11屆第4會期內政委員會第13次全體委員會議（事由：一、審查土地法：(一)委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等22人擬具「土地法第十四條條文修正草案」案。(二)委員傅崐萁等 17 人擬具「土地法第一百九十五條條文修正草案」案。(三)委員賴士葆等 27 人擬具「土地法第九十七條條文修正草案」案。(四)委員陳超明等 16人擬具「土地法第二十五條條文修正草案」案。二、審查原住民身分法：(一)委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等18人擬具「原住民身分法第二條條文修正草案」案。(二)委員伍麗華Saidhai Tahovecahe等18人擬具「原住民身分法部分條文修正草案」案。(三)委員郭國文等16人擬具「原住民身分法修正草案」案。(四)委員林宜瑾等22人擬具「原住民身分法第十一條條文修正草案」案。(五)委員高金素梅等17人擬具「原住民身分法刪除第十一條條文草案」案。(六)委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等20人擬具「原住民身分法第七條條文修正草案」案。(七)委員黃仁等19人擬具「原住民身分法第二條條文修正草案」案。(八)委員黃仁等18人擬具「原住民身分法第七條條文修正草案」案。【原住民身分法第(七)及第(八)案如未經各黨團簽署不復議同意書則不予審查。】【11月26日及27日二天一次會】） |
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我請董事長我請董事長委員好市長我看了今天我們這個土地法整個的修法我覺得大概有幾個重點第一個如果以後地方縣市政府 |
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要處分土地或什麼的不用再報行政院核備這個有可能很多的是沒有辦法從整個國土規劃的角度去看那再來配合另外一條的修法以後如果空地什麼的它適用的也是稅率降低大家可能會覺得說這個可能土地閒置然後這個稅負不公 |
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可是市長我如果這樣把它串聯起來以後會不會發現一個問題地方政府大量釋放出土地然後我稅率又這麼低會不會變成不炒房改炒地全台灣有錢人全部都去炒地會不會有這種情況發生 |
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跟委員報告事實上我們針對土地法第25條跟第195條的修正跟增訂我們事實上就有這樣的疑慮那過去我們事實上是很積極的配合地方政府只要合理我們就會允許他在土地的出售但是我們也如同委員所指教的應該要在整個國土計劃法的框架之下配合國家的國土利用跟整體的經濟建設來做合理的土地的使用 |
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而至於土地的稅率的部分如果適用住宅那個自用住宅的話那事實上就會造成大家囤房或囤地的成本降低這也不利於國家土地的合理使用跟發展對啦所以我整個看起來這個時候我覺得我們要真的要深思熟慮這個會變成到最後全台灣有錢人就炒地 炒地皮 |
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反正我的持有成本這麼低然後我要取得可能也很簡單我覺得這點大家要三思這是謝謝委員的建議謝謝委員建議我們會乘勝來處理再來我上次也有質詢過你們部長有說因為現在我們一直鼓勵民眾自主 |
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不管是都更或危老改建但現在大家也知道銀行貸不到錢我說的是自主自主的危老跟那個這個建商的我們就不管這一點上次部長也說他會跟 |
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這個相關單位財政部金管會等等的大家溝通我不知道你知道溝通的如何首先跟委員報告就央行的部分部長親自拜會央行楊總裁那楊總裁已經也對外公佈對外宣佈 |
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在整個自主都更的金額借貸金額是不受集中度管制的影響也就是說他不受72之2的影響銀行團還是可以借那當然自主都更他最大的困境是說我們先不要管這些我們就先不要講到自主都更啦圍繞人家自主的 |
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雖然是這樣啦 但我相信啦你們內政部 我應該也聽到很多案例啦銀行還是不貸啦 他們不貸是為什麼怕你還不出錢來 怕你們這些就自己地主啊 自己這樣子跟政府的政策背道而馳那我們就對這些銀行一點辦法都沒有嗎 |
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跟那個委員報告我們現在有另外一個我們在整個都更法要修正的時候我們會加入就是說我們會將制度都更或者是危老的那個信用保證制度加入由我們中央都更基金去投入一定的信保那提供十倍的信保額度也就是由我們中央來做擔保來做協助這些危老或者是都更他們要進行借貸的時候由我中央來做擔保我覺得啦 |
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你們做這個擔保也是一個解決的方式是沒有錯的但政府的威信沒了我們一直鼓勵人民我不用透過建商不用透過什麼啊你自己可以辦那結果現在呢又要內政部什麼這個基金我跟你講私人銀行我們管不著啊公股行庫你不照辦董事長就叫他下台了啊 |
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總統的政策他都不執行了這種董事長不用當了啊財政部長也要下台啊公然違反總統跟整個國家的政策啊只為了他在思考啊這種人不配在這個位置啊 |
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對不對 我們 我再強調一次 我所說的不是建商喔完全排除建商的喔人家私人的咧 政府一直鼓勵咧我們內政委員會當初也是配合你們跟所有的民眾講 你不用透過建商你們只要自己 然後就可以去蓋結果人家這樣自己喔政府跟人民講可以這樣做結果咧 大家好不容易用好了銀行就不帶銀行不帶蔣川了 |
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他就是怕他還不起錢來啊欺負這些人沒有經驗啊這樣子你們是不是政府又要逼人家要跟建商合建跟政府的完全政策不一樣欸我一直講的就是這個意思那我們內政部雖然貸款不是你的主要業務但整個 |
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圍繞整個自主度這是內政部的業務我如果是部長我一定硬起來我們部長非常強硬 我想委員也很清楚我知道啦 但是還看不到成果我們會積極跟財政部跟經管會溝通我們要求公股銀行一定要優先處理承辦這些相關的業務本來就是公股銀行你就處理就好了對不對 |
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那你銀行法72條之二早就排除了這些嘛早就排除了嘛我們都看到它現在其實是過當的管制啊你把這些排除掉 |
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有好幾千億耶對不對 可以拿出來做啊我是覺得喔政府不應該欺騙人民啦好 我們會再跟財政部金管會溝通然後要求公股銀行一定要優先進行相關的都更或危老的借貸對啊再說一次自主的你沒有理由不貸給人家如果你是建商什麼你要考量那個我們不管 |
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人家自主的 人家申請的你就要帶給人家人家是照政府的政策來的這點我希望你們要跟他們溝通好我們會再積極拜會財政部跟金管會我們要求公股銀行一定要執行落實總統的政策好 謝謝 |