| IVOD_ID |
165878 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/165878 |
| 日期 |
2025-11-26 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-4-26-13 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第4會期社會福利及衛生環境委員會第13次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
4 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
13 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
26 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
社會福利及衛生環境委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第4會期社會福利及衛生環境委員會第13次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-11-26T11:42:45+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-11-26T11:53:54+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:11:09 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/f5b16bee5fdcc5c1aff30772f6b9cbf8ba7bab90aa47d99979564efc6fe1044b8a87edb53361b94a5ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
蘇清泉 |
| 委員發言時間 |
11:42:45 - 11:53:54 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-11-26T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第4會期社會福利及衛生環境委員會第13次全體委員會議（事由：邀請衛生福利部部長、財政部及環境部就「蘇丹紅化學原料竄臺，政府如何強化進口把關及後市場查驗，以維護國人健康安全」進行專題報告，並備質詢。
邀請衛生福利部部長、司法院、法務部、勞動部及內政部警政署就「國內醫師、護理人力需求及分布暨防止醫療暴力措施及改善情形」進行專題報告，並備質詢。
(討論事項)
審查
一、委員柯志恩等17人擬具「醫療法第二十四條及第一百零六條條文修正草案」案。
二、委員林月琴等17人擬具「醫療法第二十四條及第一百零六條條文修正草案」案。
三、委員王育敏等16人擬具「醫療法第二十四條及第一百零六條條文修正草案」案。
四、委員顏寬恒等17人擬具「醫療法第二十四條及第一百零六條條文修正草案」案。
五、委員萬美玲等16人擬具「醫療法第一百零六條條文修正草案」案。
六、委員顏寬恒等16人擬具「醫療法第二十四條及第一百零六條條文修正草案」案。
七、委員邱若華等17人擬具「醫療法第一百零六條條文修正草案」案。
八、委員陳菁徽等17人擬具「醫療法第二十四條及第一百零六條條文修正草案」案。
九、委員魯明哲等18人擬具「醫療法第一百零六條條文修正草案」案。
十、委員王鴻薇等20人擬具「醫療法第二十四條及第一百零六條條文修正草案」案。
十一、委員林淑芬等25人擬具「醫療法增訂第一百條之一條文草案」案。
十二、委員盧縣一等16人擬具「醫療法第二十四條及第一百零六條條文修正草案」案。
十三、委員羅廷瑋等21人擬具「醫療法第二十四條及第一百零六條條文修正草案」案。
十四、委員廖偉翔等17人擬具「醫療法第二十四條及第一百零六條條文修正草案」案。
【第十四案，如經復議，則不予審查】【專題報告及討論事項綜合詢答，討論事項僅詢答】） |
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謝謝主席那我們讓部長休息我請食藥署署長江署長還有我們請健保署署長來 陳署長署長 江署長這個蘇丹紅今天我們我們劉昭偉 劉縣長他特別提出來的 |
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這個蘇丹紅怎麼也可以吃 也可以磨 也可以擦哇 這些東西是怎麼擦的東西多少衍生物 |
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插裡面是絕對禁止在化妝品裡它是名列是不能使用的所以在這個原料商新加坡原料商 台灣進口商對於這一塊裡面沒有把它的檢驗的報告如實的去呈現而是有一些參為假冒沒有把它揭露出來所以我們昨天其實以最高的裁罰金額就500萬給它罰下去 |
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所以這一些利能生技什麼的 巴拉巴拉這裡的人他們是都不知道 不知情這個蘇丹農到底是 它是很穩定的很穩定的或是說它好保存 或是它很鮮豔或是說它可以防腐什麼瓦克它到底是什麼好態 大家都要用炒 用磨 用泥石跟委員報告其實只有一個就是便宜者的貨啦然後色彩鮮豔 |
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那對於不能用的就是確定是不能用那對於用了之後呢而且我們看到的品項裡面這十幾家十二家廠商他們的產品目前是二十項我們對於這個其中有一家其實是主動去驗然後確定下來他提到說他主動的去揭露然後去講我覺得是鼓勵他們的業者的自主的 |
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那對於這些明年度7月1號預計走GMP的廠的全面GMP廠或者ISO認證這個過程我們中間呢遇到了一些阻力我們希望這次呢持續能夠來做這是要檢舉的還是你們邊境查驗出來的這個是我一個學弟他應該是網路這個滑滑滑他就跟我講說學長這個你查看看這個看起來好像有你看你這個查案是靠媽祖託人的 |
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其實我們在這個部分跟委員報告所以我們針對原料的部分剛才有很多的討論我們覺得原來是屬於所謂的原料對於所謂的核可制到登錄制這個過程中如何在上階層裡面對於原料的我們也積極的在做後續的研議因為 |
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這些化妝品的什麼現在都封存嘛我看是封存下架沒有銷毀嘛接下來就是要銷毀了這怎麼辦那這些廠商如果是不知情就說進來染劑就把它淹下去 |
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口紅這樣用所以我看這東西可以吃就對了啦不能吃啦不能吃因為這個GMP廠的廠商對於他自己的原料也要有能夠去負責任的態度你現在原料廠商進口竟然你跟最上有買的完全都沒有這個能力所以一關一關都要建置他們的能力跟辨識能力也是我們下一階段GMP廠裡面輔導廠商的做法所以我學了食藥署齁但是事情有夠多啦 |
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啊灌就灌不了啦那邊境茶園或是茶廠或是在做雞茶園的待遇又這麼多 經常找不到人你是要怎麼解決啊你要怎麼解決 |
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我們在稽查的部分人力我們其實感謝人事總署紀念部都有給我們增加的人力總共33 內部裡面調整的這實際增加24個人力裡面也在區管裡面能夠在第一線可以有更多的量能 |
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那這一次的原料進口的部分其實它的進口報單的號列是DH9999後面是508那這508裡面特別是所謂植物的其他色素這植物的其他色素在輸入許可證的號碼上面其實填寫是書審在海關實際進行就予以放行所以我們對於這一塊對於未來化妝品的原料的部分是否有進一步的我們其實會跨部會裡面剛才有一些 |
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這個蘇丹紅它有好幾種樣一型 二型 幾型 七型 這麼多主要到 密道道之後它會代謝成AlininAlinin就是第三級的致癌物第二級 第三級致癌物所以這個是很嚴重的問題是很嚴肅所以這是西洋的 |
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所以食藥署就要比較謹慎的啦我看你常常在出事情 我很替你歡樂而已我看你這樣鬆鬆鬆的 覺得不夠我們立正一定是想辦法把這事情申諾當得更好時間有限了 來 陳署長來 你就要休息了 張署長就要休息了我那個就留給他平起來 |
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剛才在說這個IDS 我要跟兩位說你們現在做差不多20年了 高長一年高進對 所以現在有的地方要檢討剛才我們盧憲宜在說的一些原住民那裡說來說去就是經費不夠嘛 或是幫補助的這個是不行啦教委員報告 我們部長有說9月到14月每年我們會來檢討那個行政流程 |
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像前幾天我們另外的委員有提恆春的小琉球的用小琉球我講得很抱歉但是那個射箱遊客這麼多禮拜六禮拜天去看醫生大家都哀求不然我們要去 |
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現在年輕的醫生不是像你說的那種道德欠收像石部長這樣做醫生我這樣做醫生的時候大家自己額露一下就起了沒有啦 時代不一樣啦現在年輕人要嘛就是要代育狗 一個臂嘛你現在要說要用UCC 市長你是要用UCC的方式就要補充 |
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看了一個禮拜六看了一百多個病人沒有藥師醫生看法還要去保養啊 |
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喔 這真的 我全台灣都看到了我問一件事 上次你有關心琉球這邊的遊客多有醫療需求所以我們健保署立刻有去媒合了所以關於你提到的藥師 醫師 護理師這部分我們都已經在盤點應該會儘速補足這個醫師人我問藥界藥師他說每一個節的待遇有到 |
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像樣啦 他們就預管你現在UCC這個我看介紹比較高你去IDS的指揮官 |
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像假的也不一樣所以要考慮一下但是報告也要保證一點對不對這就要不處理不可以反正遊客也是不滿意啊看個病還要去包藥同一個人要說話 要亂撒謊要笑對不對所以這個很重要喔是 謝謝委員指導1445有什麼意見嗎 拜託 |
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沒有 所以我們才那時候是比較過就是相對現在給付的一些政策所以就是部裡面整體的討論就是對於假日遊客多的小琉球應該會想辦法來協助以上好 謝謝 好 你們兩個都請回那請環境部有來喔 再給我30秒 |
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委員好 這個很嚴重 上個禮拜五 禮拜六台南後壁 垃圾山 廢修嘛 對不對這台鐵就是丹納斯 颱風 一些廢墟都拼在那裡 也有石棉瓦那修了 纖維是會裂開的會裂到冰凍 裂到更硬 再蓋起來就裂得更硬我們劉縣長 你要注意 你們也對 |
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那要怎麼做?跟委員報告我們了解前陣子台南那邊有在說就是說他這裡這堆是籌啊丹納斯他那裡的籌啊台內並沒有實棉啦這是今天的那個圖?今天的?對 那個優關就是說北溪北部或是北溪南部要看風向 |
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576.378 |
| transcript.whisperx[24].text |
要看風向 東北季風啊一定要往下吹啊如果吹東北季風就往南邊往南邊對高雄這個如果有石棉瓦有纖維什麼東東的要怎麼防範不然的話我們健保署又忙了這部分是這樣 我們都有感情啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[25].start |
577.239 |
| transcript.whisperx[25].end |
581.563 |
| transcript.whisperx[25].text |
這邊我們都有感情我們這裡在高雄在台南 屏東這裡都有監測站我們有發現到說這裡的鹽濃度 鹽濃度有偏高的這個情形每一個人換一個防毒面具這樣喔 還是要怎麼辦不會啦還是躲在家裡 棉窗緊閉就好像打仗一樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[26].start |
598.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[26].end |
602.604 |
| transcript.whisperx[26].text |
他就會做附近的民眾的預警這要看監測的濃度的情形你們那個石棉瓦是後來怎麼處理因為連部長講都跟真的一樣我都打問號什麼都拿到工廠去密閉一頓要花多少錢 想要有啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[27].start |
617.998 |
| transcript.whisperx[27].end |
632.547 |
| transcript.whisperx[27].text |
有的啦 這部分是這樣啦就是說市面上它回收回去一般是用固化的方式啦固化固化的方式就是說它那個已經放在那裡密閉密閉之後用固化整個用安眠套我們像用安眠套這樣啦把它封起來 |
| transcript.whisperx[28].start |
634.048 |
| transcript.whisperx[28].end |
661.898 |
| transcript.whisperx[28].text |
就好像那個河山 河山廠還是河騰電廠的那個二級 二級萬物 也許用固化劑 再加一些水泥這部分 灑灰給它封起來封起來之後 讓它不會溢散這天就去做過後 接下來就掩埋 掩埋 OK他待會兒自己熬手是這樣這個要加強監控啦 不要人家在檢舉裡面都還沒有動作啦 好這百姓的安全是最重要啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[29].start |
663.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[29].end |
663.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[29].text |
好謝謝好謝謝蘇昭偉謝謝 |