| IVOD_ID |
165875 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/165875 |
| 日期 |
2025-11-26 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-11-26T11:39:56+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-11-26T11:46:42+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:06:46 |
| 支援功能[0] |
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| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/f5b16bee5fdcc5c146591e4a1d0e9196ace2a84e35b1380279564efc6fe1044b94e5bb3b82232aca5ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
羅廷瑋 |
| 委員發言時間 |
11:39:56 - 11:46:42 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-11-26T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第4會期財政、內政、外交及國防、經濟、教育及文化、交通、司法及法制、社會福利及衛生環境會第1次聯席會議（事由：審查或處理「中央政府前瞻基礎建設計畫第5期特別預算(114年度)」及「114年度中央政府總預算追加預算」決議：
一、有關中央研究院預算凍結書面報告案1案。
二、有關國立故宮博物院預算凍結書面報告案4案。
三、有關國家發展委員會預算凍結書面報告案1案。
四、有關行政院公共工程委員會預算凍結書面報告案1案。
五、有關內政部主管預算凍結書面報告案4案。
六、有關財政部主管預算凍結書面報告案1案。
七、有關教育部主管預算凍結書面報告案3案。
八、有關經濟部主管預算凍結書面報告案3案。
九、有關交通部主管預算凍結書面報告案10案。
十、有關衛生福利部主管預算凍結書面報告案4案。
十一、有關文化部主管預算凍結書面報告案1案。
十二、有關數位發展部主管預算凍結書面報告案3案。
十三、有關國家通訊傳播委員會預算凍結書面報告案1案。
十四、有關考試院主管預算凍結書面報告案1案。
十五、有關外交部主管預算凍結書面報告案1案。
十六、有關大陸委員會預算凍結書面報告案1案。
【11月26日及27日上午二天一次會】） |
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謝謝主席有請莊仁祥次長請莊次長委員好次長不好意思想跟你請問一下請問你心中職場霸凌的定義是什麼應該說有持續性的一個在言語 身體或是語言上面的一個暴力你覺得樣態有哪些 |
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可能有上司對下屬或是上司對下屬或是平輩就群體的部分也有類似的一個也有這種的狀況好 那我想問一下機關署東區管制中心簡主任是長期讓特定的女技工每天幫她備妥早餐午餐 |
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基層員工看不慣工氣失用7月初二度向政風市檢舉那時候莊氏您是疾管署的署長對這個案子有了解嗎這個部分它7月2號一通報它事實上在社群媒體還有信函都有舉發所以我當時就請政風跟人事就跨組來做調查 |
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所以後來是有了解因為他主要當時是說他的行政管理的措施不當所以我們事實上也針對這個部分認為不當所以我有口頭口頭警告我都知道我先請問一下機關署其他單位是否輪流幫主管準備兩餐的制度 |
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應該是沒有啦那這個部分事實上我們有找主管再去問這位技工他說他主要是因為他在看到在疫情期間他沒有辦法幫什麼忙所以他是主動的協助所以是他自己自願的是但是同仁都看不下去幫他檢舉對所以自願的結果同仁幫他檢舉你不覺得很奇怪嗎 |
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我们的确有去访问到那个技工那请问一下女技工的工作内容是否有帮主管准备两餐这样子的一个内容 |
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他在當時的確是有幫忙不過他的說法是我說的是他本身應該要有的工作內容應該不是啦對我想問一下喔那如果沒有為何能夠容許長期指派跟職務無關的一個事務他並沒有指派他啦我剛有說過他其實是在他自己去協助這位主管的部分是 |
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那既然是他自己主動的那幹嘛口頭訊戒因為當時是認為說他的確在行政上面就是不應該讓這個事情有這個長期發生那另外一個是所以對你來說你也覺得這不是霸凌因為他是長期自己主動另外一個是他其實只是幫他加熱微波這個部分並沒有說去煮什麼東西啦 |
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購買要不要時間購買我不太確定他是不是有去幫他買他不可能在那邊開火嘛是對不對所以我想說這樣子那你認為這就不是霸凌是吧主要是要那個人心理上有覺得他有被長期的這個忽視或是語言的暴力他目前是沒有我想現在我們要知道法律 |
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雖然沒有明文規定禁止叫下屬準備早午餐這樣子就沒有違法的問題但是能不能將整個過程當中我們還原以後發現你說他只是自願而且他只有加熱他沒有採購嗎他一定有採購嘛那為什麼到同仁來看都覺得好奇怪為什麼他要幫他買 |
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248.878 |
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所以我不懂為什麼這件事情爆出來以後呢很多的同仁都覺得為他抱屈我覺得就是主要是那個爆料那個人一直在講這件事其他人並沒有啊所以你覺得是那個人自己的觀感問題所以所謂的霸凌應該是指那個受害人他有長期受到這樣的心理影響但我們有去訪問他的確是沒有 |
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整個衛福部體系沒有感覺到整個權勢不對等公器私用這個部分我想跟委員報告就是我在當署長的時候大概接收到很多的我們就是署裡面有人來提出霸凌的一個檢舉我事實上都會很正式的去處理這件事情並沒有去嚴厲啦市長我想對這件事情喔 |
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292.588 |
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個案我根本不認識但我看到這個報導我覺得啊嚴肅面對不要輕描淡寫我們最害怕就是衛福部謝宜榮事件又衍生到其他的部會所以我希望嚴肅面對整個公務機關安全有尊嚴的工作環境 |
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293.649 |
| transcript.whisperx[13].end |
312.968 |
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職場的尊嚴一定要重視最後我想跟你另外再請問中醫長照ABC的據點在整個部件上面我覺得有所應該要精進台灣面臨超高齡現在65歲以上失能的人口預估在2031年破百萬長照安寧的醫療需求明顯增加 |
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313.869 |
| transcript.whisperx[14].end |
340.877 |
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卫福部中药师前师长黄一超曾经说过初估全台可能有百万名的失能患者目前在这样的困境上我要再讲我们整个健康愚民减少医疗长照资源的使用在整个受西方医疗外我觉得中医师可以做全身的调息养生保住治疗所以我现在希望是中医要对于长照可能提供的注意 |
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347.678 |
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我要講的是現在我們分A據點B據點C據點A據點有818處B據點9000多處C據點4971處但是這ABC據點你知不知道中醫投入長照的有多少你可以簡單講一下嗎聽說總共大概有348個中醫師有這個證照 |
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368.062 |
| transcript.whisperx[16].end |
388.714 |
| transcript.whisperx[16].text |
雖然他現在對於這個可能會比較少一點我直接公布答案ABC裡面你自己知道非常之少上千處幾千處甚至上萬處加起來的這些據點裡面只有幾處才有所以我希望這太少了衛福部應該要增加誘因跟辦法提升中醫服務據點的數據 |
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390.635 |
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401.166 |
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可以嗎是 我們會回去會來研議一個月內給我答案可以嗎是是是一個月 謝謝好 謝謝你 謝謝好 謝謝羅委員接下來我們請葛如君委員 |