| IVOD_ID |
165784 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/165784 |
| 日期 |
2025-11-24 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-4-15-12 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第4會期內政委員會第12次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
4 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
12 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
15 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
內政委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第4會期內政委員會第12次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-11-24T11:06:23+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-11-24T11:16:39+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:10:16 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/f813cb5f76f78103fbe0b1469a2c619246adc14d631adda6ce48de7d8cd95b0db22339bbe58c964b5ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
鄭天財Sra Kacaw |
| 委員發言時間 |
11:06:23 - 11:16:39 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-11-24T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第4會期內政委員會第12次全體委員會議（事由：邀請內政部部長、國防部部長就「普發新版臺灣全民安全指引如何提升全民安全意識之政策效益評估」進行專題報告，並備質詢，另請行政院主計總處派員列席備詢。） |
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主席有請部長還有國防部部副部長好這個今天談這個台灣全民安全指引大家會有一些這個考量就需要就是因為我們雖然你們的報告都寫得很清楚 |
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最主要就是緊急重用動用第二一倍金行政院的第二一倍金非常緊急的動用第二一倍金這個國防部而且是國防部來印製所以4279萬元然後這個內政部花了2171萬元總共 |
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6450萬元所以大家才會是不是要打仗了就會有這樣的疑慮而且是國防部緊急編印所以這個部分這個印了就印了但是很重要的既然隨時要打仗隨時要打仗這是事實 |
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這裡面防空避難設施這個誰的業務 防空避難設施是內政部還是國防部那個我們的準備工作是放在警政跟消防看天災或者是人禍的部分那現在防空避難設施的這個安排到底有沒有很周全你講的安排是什麼意思是不是每個村裡都有 |
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是不是每個村裡都有是不是請警政跟消防跟您回應一下好 請說好 委員 跟委員報告一下所有的防空避難的一個設施它可以分成兩個單位第一個是監管機關跟警察機關沒有 我只是問你是不是每個村裡都有基本上一定是每一個村裡應該都有完全錯誤我們看這個我們就擠瑞穗香就好了我就從 透過你的指引 |
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透過你的指引去查了以瑞穗鄉來講就這幾個啊就這幾個主要是在這個四七啦有那個地下室的啦對嘛那我們沒有地下室的村裡怎麼辦呢對不對那些防空避難設施以前的防空洞要不要重啟啊 |
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對不對 要不要重啟 好不好所以這個我希望你們重啟嘛防空洞啊 不然我們沒有地下室的那個村裡怎麼辦呢對不對 那是就近了剛剛委員說提的防空以前的防空洞的部分我們再來研議 好不好那就請那個國防部副部長也請回座那個我們劉部長我們談另外一個議題 |
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這剛剛也做了決議了國有財長法第46條這個法例一直沒有修正也沒有廢除國有耕地得提供為放租放領之用然後由內政部會商財政部擬定報請行政院核定之包括第二項也是一樣這個國有耕地放領實施辦法也一直都沒有廢止 |
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也都一直有效的一个办法这里面规定的很清楚国有耕地放领对象为中华民国65年9月24日以前已承租该国有耕地自本办法发布时仍继续承租使用之农民依法换曰承租使用之农民或由其继承人 |
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繼承成豬使用之農民事實上過去內政部在民國九十幾年的時候的內政部一再的跟行政院要求必須依法行政要繼續辦理但是你看當時的行政院這個當時的行政院並沒有這樣做最主要就是在 |
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民國96年的時候民國96年的時候行政院停止違法停止辦理這個工地放年這是整個原由是這樣所以要就絕對應該要依法行政而且是要符合憲法的相關的這些規定 |
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然後呢這是土地法第25條我們就想地方政府的現有土地或私有土地直轄市或縣市政府對於其所管公有土地非經該管區內民意機關同意並經行政院核准這個程序這是地方自治最基本的原則公有現有的土地 |
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現有的土地或是直轄市有的土地他經過民意機關同意報給你內政部內政部應該要趕快報行政院來核准我們看這個台東台東縣政府在今年的11月11號 |
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提出了這個台東市新延段79地號無比非公有的現有土地現有非公用耕地現有非公用耕地11月11號報行報行政院當然是先交給內政部內政部什麼時候可以送行政院來核准部長 |
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報告委員這個是屬於個案的部分我再回去查查一下但是也跟委員報告委員非常清楚這個所謂工地放領那目前我們就是工地放領原來有的這個行政辦法我們沒有更改 |
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所以才會有65年以前的原則或者是跟養殖用地相關那中間有停辦三次都是因為天災1999年921地震2004年桃枝颱風2008年是莫拉克颱風 |
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所以國有耕地裡面如果現在是山坡地跟國土保安有關係的話大概就不會在這一次的工地放你的範圍那剛剛我在回應其他委員關心的時候是以國有平地耕地以及養殖用地為主部長你提到了96年之所以這個停辦停止辦理當初是依這個國土富裕策略方案及行政計畫 |
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它是一個行政規則這第一個 第二個當初的考量 我們正在制定國土富裕條例草案但是這個草案而已而且這個草案後來就決定不定了把這個國土富裕的這些規定全部一列到國土計劃法都一列到國土計劃法了所以現行的法例 |
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規定人民不能取得私有的土地只有兩個法例一個是土地法14條另外一個法例是另外一個法例是這個水利法83條尋常洪水位的土地才可以不得私有所以部長我們要依法行政 |
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只要是符合国有财产法以及相关的这些法律尤其是宪法的规定所以我这个要请这个部长赶快把这个这是现有的工地现有的耕地所以请部长赶快这个函报给行政院来合准可以吗 |
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報告委員我們現在已經會要求包括台東縣政府不一樣不一樣這是縣你剛講的我聽了那個你答覆那個黃昭偉的質詢我有聽了你講你能管的是國有的國有的耕地你才要按照那個程序屬於縣有地方所有的部分你就要按照地方 |
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只有土地法25條啊只有土地法25條你就依土地法25條來處理好不好土地法25條我剛跟委員講過這個個案的部分我們要研議後再辦理好嗎就依法辦理好謝謝好謝謝曾平 |