| IVOD_ID |
165762 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/165762 |
| 日期 |
2025-11-24 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-4-15-12 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第4會期內政委員會第12次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
4 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
12 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
15 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
內政委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第4會期內政委員會第12次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-11-24T09:39:31+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-11-24T09:46:55+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:07:24 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/f813cb5f76f78103d778c027dead9efb46adc14d631adda669bc65e346f37e4ca5ed6df0179e1a205ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
張宏陸 |
| 委員發言時間 |
09:39:31 - 09:46:55 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-11-24T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第4會期內政委員會第12次全體委員會議（事由：邀請內政部部長、國防部部長就「普發新版臺灣全民安全指引如何提升全民安全意識之政策效益評估」進行專題報告，並備質詢，另請行政院主計總處派員列席備詢。） |
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我請劉部長跟博副部長請劉部長跟博副部長 |
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我想先請伯父部長我想請問一下這個從1978年開始我們台灣就都有辦這個叫萬安演習對不對那它的目的是什麼萬安演習就是防空演習也就是民眾如果有遇到 |
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像空襲的這種情況的話可以就地掩蔽和避難好那我們現在呢是不是有城鎮韌性對不對掩襲就叫民安掩襲民安掩襲對不對這可能很多人都還不知道喔也搞不清楚喔是不是伯父部長你可以解釋一下所謂外安掩襲我們是所謂的防空避難民安掩襲的話是屬於人力和物力的動員的樣子 |
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这样支援我们社会在这个遇到灾变的时候我们所有社会的这个有名利和物质的这样子正用的方式来做演习 |
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所以城镇任性这个民安演习那个其实是现在我们政府积极在推动国家任性等等的一个很重要的一个演习项目是的每一年都有必要做的必要做的但很多人其实还不知道你去问你去路上问城镇任性演习民安演习是什么可能大家不大清楚是 |
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副部長 是再給你幾秒鐘的時間再大聲跟全國人說一下什麼是民安演習民安演習目前我們國安部每一年在做演習的時候民安演習是必須實施的項目那這個項目裡面是有關於人力物力的動員的資源來維護社會的這樣子一個運作的方式所以這是一個非常嚴重的重要演習 |
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沒有錯 所以我們今天國防部做這一本冊子其實跟以前的防空演習是不一樣的概念那我們是要陳正任性民安演習其實這一本冊子裡面很多的內容其實可以跟民安演習是可以扣在一起的吧 是不是這樣是的 委員長一點都沒錯 但是我們的範圍是擴大了 |
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是把所有過去沒有的這樣子的比如說像今年的彥聖湖事件就是一個很特殊的一個天災那我們針對這個是把所有的演習的狀況集中在這個裡面來做一個全民的一個教育和宣導沒有錯啊花了一筆錢當然多宣導多宣傳一些是好事啊對不對但他的基本精神他的價值應該就是配合民安演習吧 |
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我可不可以這樣說委員你可以這麼說但是問題是這裡面所包含的範圍更廣泛更廣泛沒有錯我剛剛就說更廣泛我們當然是啊做好充足的準備啊怕敵之不來而已啊有以待之啊但 |
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這一本冊子我如果可以這樣講這個其實是民安演習裡面一個非常重要的一個宣導然後讓大家知道這個陳正任性民安演習對未來的重要性這裡面當然包括天災當然包括什麼我們是不是可以這樣子說委員就廣義的上來講是可以這樣子可以這樣子說 是的當然你們還有一些比較細節 是 |
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現在很多人在講發這本冊子在幹什麼的其實我們要讓人民知道民眾知道啊這個就是我們現在推的陳正任性我們的名單演習你要讓人民知道那人民這個 |
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觀念一灌輸裡面他就知道這本冊子是要幹什麼的啊是的這也是一個很重要的理念是不是應該是可以這樣子說可以這麼說可以這麼說嘛好嘛那你這樣跟全國講大家就知道了嘛不然我看今天會有很多質詢會私交這個是我今天請教你的問題是謝謝委員長 |
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那劉部長 副部長等一下我也覺得這個非常好 非常好但大家剛剛有 我剛剛應該報章雜誌上也有很多不一樣的說法什麼的我覺得這本冊子非常好 不錯不過這個劉部長他們現在詐騙什麼的我們的建議之後他們做得非常好 |
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部長跟副部長你們有沒有想過在鄉下的人這一本書很好不過叫他看那麼多他也可能沒有辦法看那麼多而且有的人都老花眼了你要叫他這樣子其實有點困難 |
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有沒有想跟國防部說這個這麼好我們是不是也可以拍一些小短片30秒的然後分重點然後可以去宣導我不知道這個委員的建議很好我們馬上來處理看怎麼樣比較好 |
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因為你也提到我們這次是解決數位落差跟資訊落差那如果有的人覺得這個字太小或者是字數太多我們當然是希望他就放在客廳裡面有事情的話就翻閱一下而不是看完就丟那剛剛也有委員提到說這本叫小局書我想這本小局書一定比小紅書更有這個資訊的參考性質那我們會來多多宣傳 |
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對啦 我的意思是說我跟你講這個是我們的民安演習陳正任性的這個我覺得這個他平常都用得到了但是你如果要叫七八十歲九十歲的人每天看這個我也有看了一下這個大家年紀都有一點點了也不年輕了我也很年輕啦我們看久了都有點吃力 |
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這個有的你還要消化然後有的字有的什麼的其實對他們來講對長輩來講我真的覺得字對他們來講有點吃力這點可能是我們我們來多做宣傳還有多餘的宣傳也是一個重點多管道因為你們現在的詐騙用實力用什麼這樣子 |
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很多人都看得懂了是那可以跟國防部啊溝通一下然後呢拍一些小影片或什麼的我覺得反而啊更容易讓大家知道好這樣可以吧那個博副部長你覺得勒博文委員建議非常好我們回去會比照辦理是好 |
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對啊 你看我們軍中我們有非常好的弟兄們什麼的請他們出來拍或什麼或配合那個義警義消等等的我覺得是個非常好的宣傳方式啦好 謝謝 |