| IVOD_ID |
165759 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/165759 |
| 日期 |
2025-11-24 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-4-35-17 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第4會期外交及國防委員會第17次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
4 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
17 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
35 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
外交及國防委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第4會期外交及國防委員會第17次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-11-24T10:07:37+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-11-24T10:14:30+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:06:53 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/f813cb5f76f781036ebe1add9aeb77da0652d1d50d7223a569bc65e346f37e4cdab1372d823571c45ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
賴士葆 |
| 委員發言時間 |
10:07:37 - 10:14:30 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-11-24T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第4會期外交及國防委員會第17次全體委員會議（事由：邀請國家安全局、外交部報告「日本首相高市早苗『台灣有事說』及『安保三文件修正』對區域安全及台海穩定的情勢研析」，並備質詢。） |
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謝謝主席以及各位先進有請外交部的吳次長以及國安局的張副局長兩位長官一起來兩位請我的時間很短主席要控制很嚴格請兩位長官盡量的一個要間斷的回答 |
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美國國會底下的USCC有透露 媒體上都有揭露說台灣 要台灣資助美軍在菲律賓的軍事基地的升級工程簡單來講就是因為菲律賓距離台灣很近那麼台灣出錢修他們的比如說跑道啦 其他的一些的設施這樣子的話要來幫忙台灣比較方便有沒有這回事 |
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來 國安局副局長快點 來包委員 目前我們有接收到這樣的請訊沒有有沒有我們沒有接到這樣的請訊那個另外因為CC認為可以透過FMS就是對外的軍售計畫參與就台灣協助日本 西南諸島的一些類似這個 就工程上的建設有沒有這個東西 |
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包委員一樣沒有介紹這樣的情訊那個外交部的吳次長要不要回答一下吳次長有沒有介紹這個東西是有這樣的一個政策建議有啊 怎麼沒有呢有討論啦但是政策建議很多事情是可以討論的我方便到目前並沒有要我請教你它的日本西南諸島有沒有包括真立最大的釣魚台 有沒有 |
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日本的西南諸島西南諸島 當然有啊你就看啊日本的地圖西南下來就掉一台在上面了再過來台灣 再過來菲律賓所以那也就是說 |
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就是說美國的國會會建議台灣出錢去幫忙美軍在這些地方的一些的軍事的一些的我們叫什麼叫做supporting的一些一些非軍事的啦但是比如跑道啦這些設施等等的這些軍事用地什麼之類的對吧 |
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我的理解從我年輕念書到現在台灣或中華民國跟美國在各方面的合作一直是我們一貫的政策所以這個如果是有這樣的一個做法我想就是我們過去來一貫的政策 |
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你不覺得我們現在已經被扒了好幾層皮欸台美關稅我們又被要求投資四千億美金然後又來這一條錢這錢多少錢你知道嗎也不知道多少錢然後就是要叫我們買單美國在國際上在國外的一些軍事基地的維修要台灣出錢這是哪一門的邏輯啊 |
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這個邏輯會不會把台灣真的真的叛逆叛逆加三級難道不是這樣子嗎外交部有答應嗎 |
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呃 剛才提到那是政策建議而已啊現在目前為止那我想我們跟美國的各方面的合作討論是有助於維護台灣海峽的一個安全市長啊 這個要說NO啦 不能這樣子啦台灣錢不是大風刮來的啦大家辛辛苦苦 納稅人一點一滴好 我們再看今天的主題啊日向 這個是高市長所說到的 |
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我能不能解讀為他講的就是台灣有事 日本會出兵可不可以這樣解釋可不可以 市長我想這好像可不可以我想高市首相並沒有這樣直接解釋法所以我們也不用過度去白話文就是這樣或者講不排除出兵就這樣說 可以嗎 |
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我想 任何一個主權國家都有權利都用他想要做的事情來維護他自己的國家安全他講了這個話 我知道很多人大家覺得說 兩個大國打起來對台灣很好可是我覺得大家要三思 |
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多少專家我的經驗沒有任何一次我這次兩個禮拜沒有任何一個國說兩個大國打起來是很好的事情每一個國家包含聯合國發言人的回憶都是怎麼樣希望降低中國跟日本之間的緊張關係你認為兩個國家會不會打起來 |
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我認為目前不會目前不會 未來也不會是不是因為大陸所要引用聯絡國憲章的敵國條款因為他們是戰敗國包括德國 義大利 日本戰敗國他如果有侵犯到別人的話可以直接動武不需要再經過安理會 |
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這個能不能適用報告委員聯合國成立的時候簽署國並不是中華人民共和國而是我們中華民國所以我想他去引用我們中華民國簽的條約好像也不太適當但是這個條款在那裡沒有拿掉雖然沒有廢掉 還留著實質上大家認為沒有意義可是它還留在那裡所以你認為它什麼時候可以降溫兩國 |
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什麼時候可以降溫報告委員 我想降溫真的是有賴於日本跟中國他們自己彼此的一個外交要做什麼 因為這個並不是跟我們中華民國不是跟我們中華民國直接的衝突所以我想這還是由日本跟美國來處理 |
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各國都有在協助想辦法降低兩國的衝突因為真的這個地區的區域的區域和平安全是全世界的共同利益沒有一個國家有利益讓美國有介入嗎我說最後一句話美國有介入這個事情嗎 |
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美國有表達對日本的支持我想國務院跟美國駐日大使是有表達對日本的支持那這兩個都是我們的盟邦可是老公還是不甩啊老公現在拼命在升級啊現在還在往上爬啊這個才令人擔心的最後一小點我覺得賴清德總統太不厚道了利用這一次兵荒馬亂啦這個呼嚕呼嚕沒有預警的開放 |
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核輔導核災食品進來了欸沒有經過一定的程序就這樣子可以全面開放欸這個東西你不用回答我時間到了齁這個這個莫名其妙就噴了這叫渾水摸魚啊這是渾水摸魚的行為啊 |