| IVOD_ID |
165712 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/165712 |
| 日期 |
2025-11-20 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-4-15-11 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第4會期內政委員會第11次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
4 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
11 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
15 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
內政委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第4會期內政委員會第11次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-11-20T11:52:08+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-11-20T12:02:46+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:10:38 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/972124280c86b913b686c44626985019c4841f031bc0ad0a8603fab3ff6def27c89ebdc37aa605965ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
徐欣瑩 |
| 委員發言時間 |
11:52:08 - 12:02:46 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-11-20T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第4會期內政委員會第11次全體委員會議（事由：邀請海洋委員會主任委員率同所屬列席報告業務概況，並備質詢。） |
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謝謝主席 我們請管主委請管主委主委好今天本席首先想要針對海廢海洋廢棄物的部分來跟您請教 |
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我想在你们的报告中也有特别讲特别提到海废的治理跟海废的处理可能你们觉得做得还不错应该重视吧因为海废的处理它影响我们整个的环境首先我想了解一下我们好像是中央跟地方 |
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联合一起处理吗我们补助地方让政府地方来执行你们中央没有吗不是有全责吗没有吗我们的经费下去但是必须是地方政府来协助执行所以没有 |
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分海域哪些给地方政府哪些是给中央没有所以中央自己没有海洋废棄物的清理跟海洋污染的应变不一样海洋污染的应变的话我是指海洋废棄物海洋废棄物的清理的话我们最主要就是需要因为它横跨在全国非常广大的海域所以它的执行我们有请地方政府或者是民间的团体来协助对 |
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那這樣民間的團體 |
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是不是应该主委主委是不是有一些还是是你们我们是应变啦应变属于我们啦应变是你们那我现在请教我这边拿到的了解资料是你三海里以内是不是是地方三海里以外的是不是你们中央海上主要群职是海上那我现在说海底下海底下三海里以内也都还是地方嘛 |
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對地方那你們知道地方有些困難嗎譬如說你有經費委託地方是那但是地方政府對於譬如說你15公尺或30公尺以下的這個是誰 |
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每一年我们有一个我们有平台所以我们补助下去的时候你可不可以先救我的问题因为我时间也不多啦你现在海底废弃物超过15公尺或30公尺更深的你也是给地方吗 |
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我们基本上地方还是第一线来替我们执行好那主委我看你可能完全不了解我们这里要委托下去清除我们委托前海战将系统下去清除也是必须是前海战将系统来协助我们清除那海委会的同仁不可能自己下去清除我的意思是说 |
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地方他也是委外嘛他也是委托但有一些可能是我们的一些渔民就是包括叫做什么环保前海战将这些对还有环保舰队对对对前海战将环保舰队就是渔民还有一些潜水业者或热爱潜水的民众那现在主委我要讲一个重点 |
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我們發現在深海超過15公尺甚至30公尺以下很多的魚礁有很多的流刺網他整個都這個 |
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覆盖在鱼礁上那个部分是最困难的对最困难的地方他也没办法你给的经费他也没办法结果长期这个海底一堆的这些流刺网我们很多长期下来很多的鱼类他们都被这些流刺网刺死了 |
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這個情況已經好幾年了我們中央都沒有辦法處理然後地方他們沒有辦法因為你太深了這一塊想辦法跟委員報告這也是為什麼我一直期待我們的海保署要有一個大幅度的體質的改變你體質改變是說你們自己有專業團隊嗎 |
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你要培养自己的吗我们一定要赋能一定要强化我们连预算一年的预算整个海保署只有8亿我就请教你你的意思是你们要自己有专业的人员专业的团队吗你回答一下我们正在做主改是不是 |
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你是不是朝向这方面基本上海委会自己本身还帮助自己本身组团队下去处理这些事情你现在就觉得钱不够但是我们海底的这种情况已经很多年而且地方跟我们反映 |
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她一直反應就是沒有人重視我們現在連海廢地圖都沒有做到全面所以海廢地圖的部分我們要用水下的滑翔液我們先用水下的滑翔液下去做調查每年捐助北美環境教育協會 |
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也是就是針對一些這個近海大聯盟等於是你每年花120萬請問那個效益是什麼我請我請副署長說明副署長是不是好來 |
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报告委员刚刚讲的那个北美的那个部分是针对YIC的部分那是补助我们去做就是请各个国家对嘛你去请他们提一些好的方案但是已经连续做了很多年这些方案有 |
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有了好的方案你们有去用吗有因为这样改善我们台湾的海域相关的情况吗再跟委员说明一下就是因为我们的那些方案都会请这些得奖的人员都会来做分享然后我们会从中启发有一些比较好的一些车你现在讲的话都没有针对我的问题我知道你们办了很多年 |
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但是最後主委主委主委您要知道你這個錢花下去它有沒有效益還有我們地方的漁民每年每年反映他們都知道深海那些漁礁都那個流刺網都沒有人去清啊這個問題 |
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422.817 |
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451.937 |
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主委你可不可以跟我保證你未來這一年因為我們馬上也要審預算了你明年度你這一塊你要不要我們海底漁網跟委員報告我們海底漁網清多少噸這個數字是獨立起來的那以今年吧今年來講到目前為止是清了17.85公噸所以非常感謝委員委員以後就給我們督促這個數字有沒有在成長 |
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452.797 |
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479.554 |
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对这个数字是独立起来的数字成长是一个但是我们看着我们的海洋生态还有我们那么多各式各样的鱼类它都因为这个部分它等于是很多鱼就因为这样都被刺死了我们大概顺序上我们顺序上我也期许他们说经费啦你们每年这个经费总经费多少海费的清理每年总经费多少 |
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480.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[22].end |
488.919 |
| transcript.whisperx[22].text |
我是不滿意啦一億八全國嘛然後你補助各縣市政府還有你們自己是不是也有 |
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490.679 |
| transcript.whisperx[23].end |
514.769 |
| transcript.whisperx[23].text |
還有一個就是我們現在目前有一個海費清除網就是針對剛剛委員講的這樣子的情況如果說比較傷害就是針對比較深一點的我們就會自己下去請專業的人下去清那這個部分呢我主要就是你們可不可以了解有些地方他這個哀哀叫然後你們都不伸出援手這樣不行啊 |
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518.953 |
| transcript.whisperx[24].end |
535.169 |
| transcript.whisperx[24].text |
那麻煩新竹縣外海那個我去年好像也有質詢那到今年都沒有人去清15公尺30公尺以下的那還一直都在那主席不好意思最後我再講一題 |
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536.758 |
| transcript.whisperx[25].end |
559.153 |
| transcript.whisperx[25].text |
那這一塊我們希望明年能夠看到改善那最後再來一個就是說海域管理法至今懸而未決原因是什麼這個法非常的複雜我們曾經完成過草案然後也送到行政院過但是它涉及的就是說你中央的權限 |
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560.154 |
| transcript.whisperx[26].end |
584.585 |
| transcript.whisperx[26].text |
要不要全面把地方的權限收回涉及這個爭議所以到最後我們過去所做的草案的這個路線我們全部就重新盤點那重新盤點以後把各種權限的合理安排做了一個新的架構那跟委員報告我們最新的進度就是這個大綱架構出來了草案出來了 |
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585.385 |
| transcript.whisperx[27].end |
609.133 |
| transcript.whisperx[27].text |
那我要求說你大綱架構出來不要直接下去寫條文你從大綱架構就開始做跨部會員商還有做跟民間的溝通那你有沒有期程預計什麼時候出來我們希望明年會有非常具體的成果因為現在我們離岸風電開發模式都是業者先圈海政府被動審查 |
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610.353 |
| transcript.whisperx[28].end |
634.216 |
| transcript.whisperx[28].text |
那我们希望我们海域的整个的使用它能够是基于国安还有我们的生态还有各方面整体利益一起来考量所以这个我们的海域管理法我们希望我们希望明年会非常明确能够有这样的一个法出来现在大纲出来了加油加油谢谢 |