| IVOD_ID |
165710 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/165710 |
| 日期 |
2025-11-20 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-4-15-11 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第4會期內政委員會第11次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
4 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
11 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
15 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
內政委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第4會期內政委員會第11次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-11-20T11:39:23+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-11-20T11:45:05+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:05:42 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/972124280c86b9136608872388a946fdc4841f031bc0ad0a8603fab3ff6def2707c68077156111bd5ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
葉元之 |
| 委員發言時間 |
11:39:23 - 11:45:05 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-11-20T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第4會期內政委員會第11次全體委員會議（事由：邀請海洋委員會主任委員率同所屬列席報告業務概況，並備質詢。） |
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主席我們請主委謝謝現在要管主委主委好我們現在來關心一下我們那個國家安全的問題因為11月中的時候有一個媒體報導他是報導11月初紐西蘭的軍艦他經過大概是經過那個 |
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台灣海峽 台海嘛然後結果 那個媒體的報導啦當然如果說媒體報導跟事實不符你也可以澄清啦就是說 我們的這個軍方都沒有發現他是一個軍艦然後後來 他把軍艦過來之後 他把軍軍那個 欸 那個 聽一下不然你不知道我要問什麼就是說他 經過之後他把軍艦訊號關掉然後改成商船的訊號 |
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然後我們這邊都沒有發現是中共的那邊來驅趕之後呢我們這邊才發現然後後來呢過去還協調了幾個小時好幾個小時然後才處理然後媒體當然就有下一個標就是吊旗打個問號然後國人也會擔心那這個主要來問主委的原因是因為當然你會說那個是軍方事情可是我記得最近你們也有提說希望能夠修海染7法嘛那其中有一個是傳播法部分 |
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就是說如果有不明的船隻經過它沒有打開訊號的話呢你不是可以驅逐它的就是增加台海這方面的安全的保護那如果出現類似的狀況我剛剛講的那個狀況就是它是軍艦它經過了它其實是有開訊號的但是它開的是商船訊號可是軍方也不知道然後海巡這邊也不知道然後反而是對岸驅逐才發生那類似這個狀況您的了解是為什麼會發生 |
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各位委員報告有關於這個報導還有有關於軍艦的監控確實不屬於海巡的業務範圍那這不是推卸責任而是包括我們的雷達我們的監測的體系我們有在我們業務範圍監測的相關相對應的設備裝設備是相對應的裝設備因此在中線是現在大家對於海巡的期待不是這樣啦因為之前海巡 |
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還好海軍沒辦法監控軍艦因為那時候大家海軍編了很多預算嘛有增加很多船艦啊什麼的 |
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當時執政黨也是民進黨就說海軍現在要轉向第二海軍這種類似這種聲音應該都聽過了所以我們覺得說當然海巡如果是以國家安全的狀況的話軍方海巡只要是海上的大家都應該要協力如果說軍方漏掉的話那他因為把商船的訊號打開了 |
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基本上如果海巡能夠補這個洞大家加強聯繫對我們台灣的安全一定是比較有幫助的我們有情報的交流跟交換但這一案就剛講那個就Lost掉了第二個就是因為美國國會啊薛瑞福啊這個消息你應該有看到嘛昨天參議院昨天美國國會有一個叫美中經濟暨安全檢討委員會的副主席叫薛瑞福他也做過 |
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就是前美國國防部的印太司令部的助理部長他講他當然是主題是在講說如果共軍要包圍台灣要封鎖的話很快就會完成我們會反應不急那其中就有提到為什麼呢因為他們現在像海軍海警海上民兵 |
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實際上都對我們實施大量的灰色戰略然後所以這方面海警海上民兵的轉換是很快的那很快就會讓我們預警時間很慢那我不知道說這個有關於向對岸海警 |
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或者是民兵这一块那海巡有因应的策略吗我们在管辖的海域里面我们全面监控只要是进入我们进限制水域的海警跟公务船我们绝对是强制的区域我知道我知道你现在讲的是一个原则嘛你讲的是原则说每一个个案我们都处理没有放过任何一个个案我是觉得因为这也是美国的算是国会的报告 |
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應該不會是隨便亂講的那他特別指出來就是有把海警跟民兵特別列出來所以我們對民兵船也有掌握問題是如果以我們現在掌握當然我們願意相信海巡的狀況但我只是覺得提醒就是說如果現在連美國都講得那麼詳細的話那你有沒有針對這方面可能會有些狀況 |
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提出一些因應的策略不是說只是說他有監控我們都有監控來了我們就會驅趕我覺得這講得太空了這些狀況我們最重要的我們會做很多的桌推很多的兵推還有跟鄰近國家我們會做很多的聯演甚至於鄰近國家他們的聯演我們也都去觀摩 |
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所以台海不是台灣自己的事情大家知道只要是巴士海峽的封鎖或公國海峽等等這些封鎖它影響的是全世界它影響的是90%的日本人 主委非常有信心有信心是好事 謝謝 |