| IVOD_ID |
165688 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/165688 |
| 日期 |
2025-11-20 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-4-15-11 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第4會期內政委員會第11次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
4 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
11 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
15 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
內政委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第4會期內政委員會第11次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-11-20T10:51:13+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-11-20T11:00:38+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:09:25 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/972124280c86b913e204ab29446880afc4841f031bc0ad0afa443352b7318b89a3edfb217b8fd1275ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
許宇甄 |
| 委員發言時間 |
10:51:13 - 11:00:38 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-11-20T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第4會期內政委員會第11次全體委員會議(事由:邀請海洋委員會主任委員率同所屬列席報告業務概況,並備質詢。) |
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謝謝主席我們請管主委跟張署長將主委署長學員好管主委好剛剛您在報告我們有關海委會在過去一個一個這一年來的一個 |
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報告喔本席也非常肯定喔您所算你的各單位為這個我們不管是在海域的執法或者海費的治理跟各項的業務其實都非常的用心喔那當然我想你的報告中也有提出就說我們現在是依據賴總統的國家希望工程跟三安四法為施政的主軸那目標是要因應 |
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這個安全永續共榮的現代海洋的韌性治理那當然您在最後您也有提出來你們所面臨的四大挑戰尤其是願景跟資源的落差還有地緣政治的一個結構性的威脅所以在這邊本時要特別的請教您就是您的報告中有提到就是我們成功的應對了中國大陸的海峽雷霆2025A軍演 |
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動員了17艘的艦艇3艘的船跟86艘艇而且也拒止了中國大陸這個民用船舶進入我國境線制海域的這個做法但是這個數字的背後本席有深切的疑慮想要跟您探討一下 |
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就是在報告指出我們本年度驅離越界中國大陸的船舶高達773艘次扣留的17艘發還612萬沒入13艘請問一下主委我們目前扣留的17艘船現在如何處置都回去了 |
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都回去了我們扣留了以後呢然後我們就依法因為檢察官就罰他們是嗎是然後依法呢那該罰還的罰還如果有刑責的該判處的會判處那你現在沒入的13艘是什麼我們目前也沒有滯留也沒有扣人我們也沒有扣人譬如說最近的一艘我們罰220幾萬 |
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我们罚两百二十几万那就让他回去那如果说是依法我们要没入的我们就要拍卖请问主委我们的罚金612万元实际上有收到多少 |
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我们没有收到钱不会让他回去所以说就是这612万实际上都有收到了是吗那所以说基本上我们其实就是针对这样的越界的我们应该是该罚的就要罚嘛让他们就是来了解不可以越界我们也有好好的照顾他们我们也有严格的依法处理要不然的话说实在我们每次都要动用大量的人力物力去驱离 |
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那在台上這樣你追我趕變成一種消耗戰那其實呢現在的驅離扣留跟罰還的執法手段其實針對這個部分主委您知道嗎這對於越界船舶的嚇阻效果到底有多高我們某種程度來說就是說如果它越界的船來多來少我直接問就是說驅離之後他們再次重複越界的時間大概間隔多久 |
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重複樂界的部分我們比較 |
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她如果她如果去了又來去了又來的兩次的我們就帶了啦那這樣大概比例有多少就是全國13艘裡面今年13艘裡面有這種情形嗎我統計一下好不好我先請署長回答如果需要我請署長看看會後再給我資料因為我想知道最重要是如何嚇阻啦 |
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因為要不然的話我們一直在海上上演這個你追我跑這樣驅趕那事實上並沒有這樣的效果他們還是一直不斷的來多元報告還是有效像我們東沙就很有效那如果有效的我們當然就要嚴格執法但是如果只是這樣子在這邊大家你追我趕的話我覺得這個我們一定要有比較嚴格的手段那當然近期因為這個日本首相高士早苗的一個言論所以現在針對釣魚台的主權聲索再次被這個推上去 |
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台面上喔那現在11月16號中共的海警1307艦隊編隊進入釣魚台臨海內巡航那四艘船其中兩艘有配備機炮並聲稱是依法開展維權的巡航那請問一下主委釣魚台是誰的 |
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钓鱼台是属中华民国的主权我们在政策白皮书里面说得很清楚钓鱼台是属于中华民国那它的行政管辖权是隶属于哪个地方那执法的部分我们用暂定执法线因为即使是以联合国海洋法公约而言那请问一下因为现在中国跟日本三方跟我们台湾都在进行主权申索那也涉及当然最重要的就是 |
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漁民的作業安全我們護漁一定要做好現在有做這個護漁的動作嗎我們東北海域有一艘大艦長泰有一艘大艦那有進入到這個海域的護漁進入到釣魚台周邊12里或是有其他的群體的巡護嗎我們依站定執法線所以目前是有進到這個釣魚台周邊嗎去做護漁的動作嗎 |
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漁船借物周邊會啊這個依照依照我請我們分署長他在第一線好請分署長說明報告委員我們目前賦予的任務都是依照我們漁船約署所提供漁船作業的位置對那所以呢所以有進入到釣魚台周邊12里嗎 |
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漁船在哪裡我們就會去哪裡所以你們現在是針對我們的漁船在哪裡而並不見得是在釣魚台附近是嗎對 它會在我們台日漁業協定的作業範圍內作業所以說這個部分的話目前會不會讓外界會認為說我們其實好像國際認為說我們已經放棄了這個釣魚台的主權因為中國跟日本都在那邊聲稱他們有主權的這個 |
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不會那這樣可以保證我們漁民的安全嗎是可以所以這個部分可能我想我們最重視的就是我們海上漁民的這個作業安全跟他們的一個撈權那當然在這邊最後想要請教一下這個主委的就是我們的海巡弟兄上次我們在10月16號的這個會議當中你們有提到說針對海巡人員因為當然除了你們在報告裡有講要調整 |
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雷超的勤務加緊還有增加深夜圍牢勤務的這個補津貼之外呢也希望能夠在各機關的船舶海上職務加緊能夠修正調整是我們在努力對然後也希望能依此激勵同仁的士氣跟劉健的發展的一個意願那也希望說能夠在您的最後的結語希望說財政跟人力需持續的補足那請問一下主委您對於合理的 |
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这个舰船人才的津贴的修正建议的具体的调幅大概是多少跟委员报告就是说我们现在海上勤务加急已经36年没有调了对那所以你们具体的这个增加的幅度大概是多少舰队目前有一个数字我会后再给委员我怕说了以后那可能就是要我想要知道你们因为事实上上次您记不记得我在这个质询的时候有跟你提到 |
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其實海巡人員是不夠的那當時你們當時主委的回答是說啊這只有在七八月份不夠因為學生畢業之後還在分發還在收訓所以人手不足所以收訓受訓完的時候分發下來就不會不足可是今天以你的報告事實上海巡的人才是不足的 |
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所以你才知道說必須要財政跟人力的這個需求的補給所以說現在我想海巡人才是不是已經持續的流失了那尤其報告裡提到4艘4000噸級的這個巡防艦已經全數交船那這樣會不會有這個導致這個我們這國艦國造的新船會沒有人開呢 |
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各位委員報告我們會有一段期間人足夠但是還沒辦法讓大家充裕我們一定要夠你不夠不能出海所以我剛講就說人才若不夠該補的就要補 |
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像今年警專他只給我們培訓120個我們明年希望160個那像這個水警系警察大學的水警系過去給我們20個現在我們要求40個那我們本來就希望更多嘛但是他這個學校有學校在這邊也是幫我們的海巡弟兄請命啦 |
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因為其實基層的海軍弟兄真的非常辛苦那人力不足該補就要補好嗎是好謝謝 |