| IVOD_ID |
165684 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/165684 |
| 日期 |
2025-11-20 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-4-15-11 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第4會期內政委員會第11次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
4 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
11 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
15 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
內政委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第4會期內政委員會第11次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-11-20T10:02:40+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-11-20T10:18:31+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:15:51 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/972124280c86b913f6d05f75622baf87c4841f031bc0ad0afa443352b7318b8977988f7de2833a605ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
麥玉珍 |
| 委員發言時間 |
10:02:40 - 10:18:31 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-11-20T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第4會期內政委員會第11次全體委員會議（事由：邀請海洋委員會主任委員率同所屬列席報告業務概況，並備質詢。） |
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主席好 有請我們的主委 管主委請到主委外委員好 |
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主委好我們海巡兄弟真的很辛苦除了要抓偷渡的抓走私的還有查毒品還要應對就是業界的捕魚 護魚對岸灰色地帶的挑釁的行為這些工作量幾乎是就是一直累積一直紮在一起請教我們的主委 |
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這幾年就是美國啊中國新加坡還有很多國家都用無人船還有運用海巡的任務上我們在台灣也在14年6月8月做過就是無人船的測試但是到現在我們看不到明確部署的方向還有海巡人員的工作範圍越來越廣但是 |
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又人力不足無人機載具的無人就是無人載具的應該最直接的解方之一請問我們的海委會有沒有把這個無人載具的納入中長城的計畫目前海巡署對無人載具的規劃是怎麼樣有沒有 |
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就是設定具體的時程因為我們今天沒有看到報告裡面也沒有說 |
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好 謝謝麥委員關心這確實是未來發展一個非常重要的面向我們一定要趕上這個新的時代所以我們有新的計畫那也非常謝謝大院的支持委員也都有同意讓我們的預算有通過那委員會看到說我們目前還沒有部署的原因 |
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是因為預算是編在明年開始明年我們就會有大幅度的部署包括無人機跟無人艇明年才要因為我們看到你們有測試所以我們都還沒有看到 |
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所以說好如果是明年明年的話我們就要無人機的話都在訓練了都在訓練 明年的話我們想要請教一下說無人船的打算是國造還是說委託民間團體來合作 |
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目前因为没有看到说进行的技术评估或者测试报告因为你说有测试我们没有看到所以测试的结果到底如何我们传承聚含力还有影像的输出还有就是眼端操作的稳定性有没有达到我们要的标准 |
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這些都有測試所以我們是不是有一些那個測試是民間辦民間辦所以就是委任民間嘛沒有跟我們無關他們自己要展示他們的商品給我們看這樣子所以商品是你們委任他們去做他們去那個 |
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国内的造船厂他自己也要研发他自己也要跟上世界的脚步所以他们自己就都有去研发了他们研发的东西不见得符合我们的需要他们要去改所以他们研发了以后到可以展现给大家看的时候他们自己办的测试跟我们无关 |
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所以我们刚才你说我们的那个已经在用明年的预算现在就是别人的没有委员这是两回事就是您看到的那个测试是国内的无人艇的测试那我们明年要买的时候我们会开国际标就是全世界还有包括国内他们都可以来标那我们在10月份的时候我们也看到你们是在6月8月的时候就有做测试啊 |
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不是我們做的測試不是你們做的測試民間所以船是民間買的你的預算是船是民間造的是造船廠造船廠做測試測試給我們看把他們做出來的成果測試給大家看我們有派人去看到處都有派人去看 |
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所以說到現在我們都沒有再用這樣子的工具來去我們現在因為我剛才講的無人船沒有無人機有無人船這樣子的話那麼現在就是無人機有 |
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無人船我們現在沒有 還沒有剛才我問的是測試 測試的是無人船無人船測試也是國內的造船廠 也是他們在做不是我們所以我們也沒有說要去做這件事情我們當然也很希望各家都去測試給我們看 |
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包括國外的都來測試給我們看但是現在很多國家都要用無人船來去做我們帶巡海或者是海防的能力的轉型因為現在我們的敵情變化那麼快所以我們無人載具的不只是輔助委員有看到關鍵是 不要說我們 |
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我們不能就是就是輔助而已我們希望的是說更減少人力的風險這樣才是我們要的工具我們不只是去抗而已我們希望真的是落實因為現在現在沒有落實我們真的海巡送地很 |
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很辛苦又很危險無人機的部分都在訓練飛手我們那個艦隊副署長在我們也要弄很厲害的無人機 |
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對我知道但是我們現在無人船的要沒有就是具體的你說測試但是我們沒有看到說你們測試是別人就是這些廠商在測試給你們看但是你們也要真正的落實我們要買我們是買家他們要秀給我們看 |
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對啊 但是秀那麼久了嘛 我的意思是說秀那麼久了 我們這邊有沒有什麼就是說 知道這樣子的我們要的一個具體的一個數據啦不是只有去看 看看就沒有啊 看看就沒有啊 當時要賣 當時要用對不對 我們要的是這樣子的一個所以你們車的過程沒有任何的一個 |
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考量或者是說數據啊什麼都沒有民間有民間有民間的數據啦所以你們就是看一看 簡單的去就好了我們都收集回來研究還有第二個就是說我們現在就是寒流來一波又一波我們是陪海岸啊東北角還有就是龜山島 |
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還有澎渣嶼的這些地方我們有受到很多的懲罰所以因為現在寒流越來越多就是有八九度隨著就是風雨還有就是海象的惡劣但是我們海巡送堤就是無論是多冷多風還是多危險他們都要出海對不對所以但是我們很多懲罰是說 |
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他們的防寒外套還有防寒褲還有雨衣還有手套就只是一套而已而且就是好幾年的就是很舊的裝備有的破了落水的還有保暖不夠很多兄弟他們自己還要去買一些羽毛衣所以我們想要 |
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我們主委這邊這樣子說得過去嗎?對他們公平嗎?不會喔 委員我們那個遇寒喔 那都泡泡很高的我理導有那種很保暖的大衣給他們我給書長 還是給書長給委員報告好不好 |
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好 因為我們有收到陳情委員好 跟委員報告那我們現在分兩個段就是第一次那個同仁報到的時候我們就會發給他一套海巡外套那其實他是很厚的那另外針對外離島的部分我們會再加發一件海巡的大衣他是長的比較保暖的部分那另外這些東西還包括防環帽還有包括手套 包括這些 |
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防寒衣裡面的那件防寒衣都是有的那所以基本上它是夠的那在第二次像剛剛委員講說就很久沒有發我們第二次發的時候就變成選項的項目就是說我們有多少經費那你去點選我今年是要買換我的外套換了那我就選我要這一年要撥補的是外套那我的如果是裡面的置物壞掉我就選它但是我們一定的價格因為它是變預算的關係 |
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讓他自己去點選所以在基本上在防寒的部分我們對通常照顧是非常多的那像明年開始我們就編了包括外地阿波我們就編了7600件的那個大衣給他們所以每一個人都會有一件很好的防寒大衣好 我們希望就是一次性你們有沒有做一次性的全國盤點全國的盤點 |
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因为现在这群孩子在外面就是在海边还有风吹什么的冒着就是生命危险来守护我们的国家所以我们希望说他们要有保暖我们要做得到所以希望就是说我们组委这边 |
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針對就是我們外島有哪一單位最缺的或者你掌握清楚嗎所以我們希望你要做這個盤點我們就說有但是還有人跟我們陳情就表示你們就沒有盤點沒有給足跟委員報告就是鬼人現在照片看的是我們的大衣而是那個外套海巡的防航外套我們另外還有一件是防航大衣所以不一樣的 |
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外離島一定是有防寒大衣的我們知道因為他跟我們澄清跟我們說的很清楚所以我們希望的就是說防寒衣物到底有配就是分配有多少委員關心的外離島麻煩委員回答他關心的外離島的重磅防寒大衣100% |
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每個人都有所以我們希望說這個要給我們全國的盤點如果是說我們有但是說有想誰要你就給沒有要就沒給這樣子的話是真的是不公平我們希望的是說你們要全國 |
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全国要去盘点那个是第二次了对我们是知道但是我们看到里面的一项里面没有写到说就是防寒衣你们是有有筹备装备要去采购但是没有没有明确了所以我们希望的是说全国就是要盘点还有所有的外套防寒裤啊衣服啊手套这一些 |
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庫存狀況或者是說立即採購優先補足就是我們的 |
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北海岸東北角就是外島的就是缺口還有就是跨部會看到怎麼協調就是因為剛才都有講到預算所以我們必要就是說採購的部分要讓我們大家穿的暖不是名牌他們要穿的暖全盤要去服裝費一個人6700被刪到剩下3000 |
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對啦 這個我來想辦法啦 好不好所以這兩個 兩件事情因為時間 不好意思一個人六千 七改成一個人三千這個不夠啦 這個不行啦 拜託委員支持啦這不是不夠不行的問題 現在你就扯到是這個預算我們要說你全國盤點 |
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天國盤點的問題還有我們看到那個預算裡面沒有但是預含絕對百分之百我們一定都給還有第一次我們絕對百分之百強制給那現在不夠的部分我就時間有關係主委因為呢不管是說你有沒有說編列預算如果沒有編預算可能就是要跟行政院怎麼樣去增加預算因為是有人跟我們反應跟我們陳情我們才要 |
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要求所以我就時間有關係就是兩個重點第一個就是今天就是兩個問題一個就是科技升級就是我們的就是無人船就是要載具要清楚我們明年嘛明年不能只是看要有一個數據要有哪一個廠商對我們最好的哪一個我們採購這個要有嗎不是我們都有去看明年就是第一 |
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还有第二个就是人员的照顾无人载具要导入是海防就是转型的关键现在所以我们这装备要补足还有就是第一线的送递要能撑到就是基本的保障 |
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這兩項的話你可以說要怎麼樣去幫忙去保證比較落實所以我們希望就是在一個月內可以提出就是你有去看無人床他們的測試什麼的因為我們要的是 |
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要購買要花錢花在刀口上對不對要完整給我們因為我們是海防不只是防線是跟的重要的是信任還有希望我們的海巡送地他們就是有科技可以用現在都科技了還有溫度的衣服讓他們可以防暖這事情要有安全最好就是科技安全人員安全對不對 |
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这样子的话我们真正的才是说我们的海巡我们国防的任性这样子才达到就是我们要的花钱花在刀口上这样子对我们国家是更好我们要的是这样子就是让我们宋帝安心照顾好让他们出海 |
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還沒刮到 大家晚上要去做工作 還沒刮還要洗我們在裡面可以穿暖 就有暖氣 他們出去不一樣所以他們的反應是這樣所以希望我們主委 就是全國盤點的需求 好嗎謝謝 |