| IVOD_ID |
165631 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/165631 |
| 日期 |
2025-11-19 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
聯席會議-11-4-20,15,19,23,26-1 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第4會期財政、內政、經濟、交通、社會福利及衛生環境委員會第1次聯席會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
4 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
1 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
聯席會議 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
20 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[1] |
15 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[2] |
19 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[3] |
23 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[4] |
26 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
財政委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[1] |
內政委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[2] |
經濟委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[3] |
交通委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[4] |
社會福利及衛生環境委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第4會期財政、內政、經濟、交通、社會福利及衛生環境委員會第1次聯席會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-11-19T12:42:18+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-11-19T12:48:43+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:06:25 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/9c5448532e3833d1eef5a956fc5b578b7119a7747a4c5c6c90886039ce1be0fd51e308782cc5e3445ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
盧縣一 |
| 委員發言時間 |
12:42:18 - 12:48:43 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-11-19T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第4會期財政、內政、經濟、交通、社會福利及衛生環境委員會第1次聯席會議（事由：審查行政院函請審議「中央政府花蓮馬太鞍溪堰塞湖災後重建特別預算案」。
【預算提案截止時間：11月18日（二）下午3時】
【11月19日及20日二天一次會】） |
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陳經德主委跟園民會曾志勇主委好 我們再請陳主委還有園民會曾主委委員好主委好 |
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今天早上上午九點我們法談案自救會青年他們到本院表達強烈的訴求在那邊抗議因為光復鄉公有十四個村有七個村受災總戶數是五千零一十一戶有一千八百三十七家戶受災 |
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那目前申請的中居屋有41戶不過他們最在乎的就是說居住權益跟家園復建的經費是10.02億元佔總預算的比例約3.7%所以請問我們兩位主委面對災民的慘重損失中央政府要如何評估說服受災戶說已經預算不到4%的經費你要如何家園重建公務員報告 |
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這個是我們內政部編的這個預算是我想說預算的比例偏低有沒有辦法說在按照部落的需求跟在地當地族人的需求能夠調高跟委員報告這個 |
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特別預算是根據特別條例然後這個政黨協商出來的總數那現在省了就是所以目前看來是沒有辦法說馬上做調整嘛這個就是送來大院來申請那我要說的是就是說我們有一定的預算是要蓋中繼宅 |
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所以有需求的大概60幾戶所以如果說60幾戶的中繼宅那個預算是夠的那其他就是關於這個水利設施或者是農地的補償或農地的重劃那這些都有足夠的預算 |
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針對家園重建的話我們不能說這樣看起來是足夠的還是按照的需求比如說族人的需求當地居民的需求你估算以後才可以說是多少錢光復鄉不只是阿美族啦還有客家人還有平地人 |
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我們那個錢 每戶35萬針對保全戶跟受災戶35萬是提供給大家做一種家園的清理 復原當然有一些是財損是補助 衛助性質並不是補償或者負責要重建或者就是個人的房屋的重建我想這個非常不同的意義 |
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那我們還是呼籲說我們內政部園民會能夠用最簡化的程序最快的速度將補助送到災民的手中全部都發下去了一站式服務在那邊就陸續都發放下去前幾天我們去了名利我相信主委也去了你看一下那當地的場況名利的部分也比照關戶鄉來做未租金希望說他那個300億裡面有包括在名利村有再包括在裡面可以嗎就是比照 |
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大概我們看到就是大概受災會有31戶包含沒有門牌跟沒有門牌的這個有實際居住跟受災事實就可以可是他們就是說有一個訴求說你不能因為他沒有門牌就不補償或者是說做一些理賠不是理賠就是沒有門牌但有實際居住叫村長簽名就可以 |
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最主要是他們現在的需求是這樣那麼有發現說村長跟鄉長在事發的之前大概有跟我們當地的就是我們救災的比如說是工程第九河川分署或者是水保或者是說我們林保署有反映說我們當地的那個潰堤的可能性不過在 |
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240.447 |
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事情發生之前他們頂多只用了一些沙包那造成這次11月10號這麼嚴重的一個災害那我說這個責任歸屬要歸給誰啊 |
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263.302 |
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我跟委員說明了馬灘溪的北側就是鳳林跟萬榮是比較高的地方然後那邊的堤防當年省政府做的就是高規格的堤防比較好南邊關戶的比較差但是因為那個地方地勢本來就比較高所以那一段是沒有做堤防而不是破口 |
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292.622 |
| transcript.whisperx[13].text |
所以主要是因為它是有已經有當地的鄉長跟村長有跟我們防災的這些我們長官去的有反應不過它畢竟沒有做補強的措施所以它有緊急的去做必要的設施但是因為整個河川已經很高了所以水下來會溢過去那剛好那個地方是沒有做堤防的地方所以就溢到那個名利村的一些道路上面然後進入社區 |
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316.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[14].text |
那我看到這次的報告書裡面沒有針對我們這300億沒有針對我們原基法的一些機制來做一些構想比如說你應該要保障我們原基法的部落諮商同意這個部分這個法律的層面我覺得沒有顧及到所以以後在要重建的時候你針對比如說水 |
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331.516 |
| transcript.whisperx[15].text |
水利設施啊農業這些淹涉戶的整治啊土地的取得啊這個部分法律的一個準備面我覺得園民會應該要強力的來把我們園區法來顧及到可以嗎可以 報告委員可以 |
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363.719 |
| transcript.whisperx[16].text |
可以好 最后的就是说关于名利这个部分我们有一些请求就是希望能够一些跨部会治理平台的运作有些KPI就是说我们社区地方的一个部落市警能够百分之百纳入决策流程48小时内能够完成补证跨部会的风险资讯不得互相矛盾然后中央的误判必须提出检讨报告 |
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| transcript.whisperx[17].text |
部落的知識必須納入的工程設計的一個比例然後部落風險的地圖完成可以嗎可以因為我們的重建協調匯報本來就包含各部會跨部會有包含好不能再讓名利社這件事情再次上演好不好好謝謝好 |