| IVOD_ID |
165611 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/165611 |
| 日期 |
2025-11-19 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-4-19-11 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第4會期經濟委員會第11次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
4 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
11 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
19 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
經濟委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第4會期經濟委員會第11次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-11-19T11:37:44+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-11-19T11:43:25+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:05:41 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/9c5448532e3833d10a27105e6dde1ac856e0913f8e9ddf6f45c75d439e1a44ecc47a71c4ccfca2305ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
王鴻薇 |
| 委員發言時間 |
11:37:44 - 11:43:25 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-11-19T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第4會期經濟委員會第11次全體委員會議（事由：邀請經濟部部長率台灣中油股份有限公司董事長及行政院公共工程委員會首長就「中油三接案第二期遭檢舉浮報工程款項爭議」進行報告，並備質詢。
【11月19日及20日二天一次會】） |
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好 谢谢主席我请一下我们的龚部长请龚部长 |
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好部長好今天我們經濟委員會安排的是針對中油的這個三接的二期工程有沒有弊案來做這個專案報告不過我想我今天可能還要請教一下就是我覺得這個事件我想國內外都非常的震驚就是我們的台積電 |
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再次的發生這個包含技術機密跟營業機密可能被竊的事情剛才我在司法法治委員會詢問法務部部長那因為根據媒體報導我不曉得這個部長了解的情況是怎樣就是說台積電還就是正在了解還沒有就是要告發但是法務部高檢署高檢署已經 |
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主動要調查這個案子 已經主動分案因為按照什麼違反一頁秘密法還有國安法去主動偵辦那我非常肯定 我非常肯定因為我們的護國神山而且這是二奈米以下的這些技術有可能被竊 滋事體大好 那我另外請教一下部長因為這位羅維仁副總 |
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那他後來在9月份也容認我們的公研院的院士嘛對不對 公研院院士那當然這個案子還在調查之中那這個院士好像也是台積電去推薦的 對不對 |
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台積電推薦好那我想請問如果現在這個羅為仁院士他可能涉及這個偷竊這個台積電的相關的機密那請問一下這個時候我們要不要考慮暫停或者撤銷他的公研院士身份會不會這個 |
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我們再來跟供應院討論一下導致委員提到我們就來考慮因為現在他的案件現在算是初步在調查當中也許到某一個一段程度你現在所了解的這麼大的案子你所了解現在台積電的進度是怎麼樣他們還沒有進行告發嗎 |
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因為現在主要是 您剛才提到嘛 高檢署它現在因為它是按照這個國安法來辦因為國安法是可以公訴嘛 主動來調查嘛那就經濟部來講完全會配合嘛所以還在這個階段好 那至於公研院院士 你們也會跟公研院來討論對 如果案件比較明朗的情況之下更為明朗的時候 必須要做處理 |
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是不是那另外就是台積電這個事件他不是第一次不是第一次因為之前日商的東京威力科創也涉及也涉及有這個竊取台積電的機密那這個是台積電主動去告發提出去告發高檢署高檢署那麼他制裁分署也在辦 |
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那我想請問一下台積電的機密一而再的被竊取我想這個當然是有關於是公司的內部問題 |
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但是這個部分我們的政府作為主管機關有沒有一些可以著力點譬如說現在也是傳出來說因為他退休之後立刻去到美國英特爾任職那這裡面台積電就沒有給他簽什麼競業條款那這裡有沒有公司治理的漏洞有沒有 |
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報告委員是不是有簽這個競業條款齁這個我們還要查證當中那一個說法是他是有簽的可能那有簽他又 他可以再立刻轉去另外一家半導體公司任職理論上是不可以的應該不可以對 理論上是不可以 |
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所以我們也會鼓勵台積電如果他有簽競業條款而他可以就是去英特爾任職然後還有涉及竊取機密我們是不是應該鼓勵台積電一定要告啊這個怎麼能不告呢因為高檢署已經主動調查了我想台積電現在應該是配合這個高檢署的調查那我們經濟部也會配合 |
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我覺得這件事情真的是姿勢體大真的姿勢體大因為這是在短短的時間內這短短 這個被冬季威力涉嫌竊取也是在今年夏天的事情怎麼還不到半年立刻又爆發另外一件 |
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所以我想也請經濟部能夠密切注意然後協助台積電好不好像我今天是真的非常肯定法部立刻採取行動我覺得這是很正確的不要說我還要等什麼台積電也沒有告發等等之類的好不好好謝謝謝謝王副委員請公務員 |