| IVOD_ID |
165609 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/165609 |
| 日期 |
2025-11-19 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-4-19-11 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第4會期經濟委員會第11次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
4 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
11 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
19 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
經濟委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第4會期經濟委員會第11次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-11-19T11:32:01+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-11-19T11:37:41+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:05:40 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/9c5448532e3833d157e2540e435ea10056e0913f8e9ddf6f45c75d439e1a44ecdf384419043f4e855ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
涂權吉 |
| 委員發言時間 |
11:32:01 - 11:37:41 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-11-19T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第4會期經濟委員會第11次全體委員會議（事由：邀請經濟部部長率台灣中油股份有限公司董事長及行政院公共工程委員會首長就「中油三接案第二期遭檢舉浮報工程款項爭議」進行報告，並備質詢。
【11月19日及20日二天一次會】） |
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好 謝謝主席那請我們中郵董事長請中郵方董事長董委好 |
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好 董事長那之前媒體接連在11月10號跟11月17號兩次有質疑我們第三天然氣接收站的工程弊端的問題11月10號是針對第二期 |
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我們外推工程的部分那認為從94億元暴增到253億元11月17號是針對我們一期的主體工程部分報導認為評選的時間花超過4個月對於漫長的時間讓廠商是不是有得知價格在做設計的空間那針對以上兩點我們中油是不是針對這一些部分 |
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認為程序是一切合法嗎是 鮑偉首先針對11月10號這個部分所謂報價從94%暴增到253億這樣的一個報導呢在公司來講已經做了內部的一個調查從來沒有出現過94億或者是講120億或者是150億這個數字在公司裡面第一手的 |
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這個資料就是238.4億那麼238.4億去做公開的閱覽以及做後續的一些處理從頭到尾就238.4億經過廠商詢價以後最後再把這個預算數調整到253億是最終的一個所以沒有經費暴漲的暴增的問題沒有 沒有 |
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那針對一期的主體工程那它是因為中間卡著環評才延宕嗎是 這邊所提到的就是說評選時間漫長141天這個應該指的是一期的時候在第三次公告那麼公告之後到最後的一個決標的時間過長所質疑的是這一點這點我做說明 |
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第三次公告之後 開了標以後公告之後因為環評的關係所以在我們公司對外所做的環評承諾陸陸續續有做一些調整因此在這個招標公告上就去做修正那麼一修正的話 那個等標其實就要拉長 |
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主要的原因在這所以其實已經做過調查所以照這樣來講媒體的報導其實是不實的對 報導是不實的那所以這調查已經出來那媒體報導不實那中郵針對這部分要不要跟媒體來提告主要是現在最重點的我想應該應該關心的就是說到底這個事實的真相是什麼 |
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那如果媒體確實他沒有經過詳細調查這報導不實對中油如果有影響的話我們當然要提告所以中油會提告嘛是是是那就計畫會提告目前還沒提告是不是目前就是重點是在於這個事實是什麼先要把它調查清楚 |
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好 所以如果媒體報導不實 中郵會提出告訴是的 是的好 那還有針對這一部分 所以我們了解我們目前三接的總工程經費是965億元嘛 對不對是的 是的 |
| transcript.whisperx[10].start |
233.024 |
| transcript.whisperx[10].end |
251.163 |
| transcript.whisperx[10].text |
那針對我們三接有所謂的地方工程經費1%的回饋也就是依照台灣中油公司木林的工作要點第二點第三項做規範那所以我們當初是說733億所以回饋是 |
| transcript.whisperx[11].start |
255.452 |
| transcript.whisperx[11].end |
280.992 |
| transcript.whisperx[11].text |
7億3千多萬那可是照這樣子來講現在是965億那是不是我們針對木林的補助這個經費是不是少編列了這個也會相對的增加會相對的增加什麼時候會提出增加會提出增加 它是跟你的直接工程費用對啊 那你現在已經確定是965億對對 當然要增加那這一次我們有編列嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[12].start |
282.222 |
| transcript.whisperx[12].end |
309.553 |
| transcript.whisperx[12].text |
有 原來的660億的時候呢在這個地方公益建設所編的是8.8億那麼經過的預算調整變成965億以後呢那麼在地方公益建設部分編列是11.3億那是今年度編列了嗎分年編列分年編列他要跟你的工程進度的所以現在總共是編列多少 木林的經費 |
| transcript.whisperx[13].start |
312.145 |
| transcript.whisperx[13].end |
336.437 |
| transcript.whisperx[13].text |
不是 到今年嘛是不是 累積編列是不是是不是問我會後再提供資料給我好 所以我剛聽董事長講總共會10億多是不是對 11.8所以我們目前是有就是會編列到10億多然後逐年編列所以是有10億多的經費木林的經費對不對是好 那會後再給我詳細的資料好的好的好 謝謝謝謝圖軒基委員 |