| IVOD_ID |
165599 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/165599 |
| 日期 |
2025-11-19 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-4-35-15 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第4會期外交及國防委員會第15次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
4 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
15 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
35 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
外交及國防委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第4會期外交及國防委員會第15次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-11-19T11:05:45+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-11-19T11:13:57+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:08:12 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/9c5448532e3833d1c638a14def6abe2a63294d83d43b212b45c75d439e1a44ec9eaef7e7dd1b13af5ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
賴士葆 |
| 委員發言時間 |
11:05:45 - 11:13:57 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-11-19T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第4會期外交及國防委員會第15次全體委員會議（事由：邀請國防部部長顧立雄報告「國軍心理衛生制度實施後之影響探討、心理求助樣態原因分析及策進作為」，並備質詢。） |
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主席 以及各位先進的有請顧部長請部長是 部長你好 |
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我請教一下是怎麼樣這個大陸有共諜、國務院在昨天晚上這個裁定這個羈押什麼之類的這個到底是怎麼樣一回事啊怎麼軍中包括退役的包括現役的通通會淪陷到底是怎麼一回事跟委員報告我想 |
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我這邊能夠說的大概就是說我們在今年的時候有執行一個內部清查發掘那就通報那我們就由縣子部跟調查局來共同調查那確實是由我們兩位縣議的人涉案那現在已經 |
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起訴那這個那細節的部分因為已經進入司法程序我就不在於評論這樣子這個是什麼時候發生的您說什麼時候對對什麼時候你開始啟動調查我們在1月如果你要講這個就1月的時候執行內部清查就發覺了是發現什麼問題所以要清查 |
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對就是說他有一些收集一些相關的一些不當的資訊應該是這樣子然後有一些財務的狀況那我想細節我想細節當然這個已經交給已經記錄釋放了大家可以講說就是說有清查發現他有收集不當的資料然後有財務的相關問題那我們就認為是有問題的所以財務上的一個金儲是不是這個意思 |
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就是有相關的金流跟不正常的這些金流跟這些收集相關的資料我想我就講到這邊我們主動請老華姐因為我們亂了半天啦這個我們不斷的所謂的抗中爆台亂了半天 講起來還是很多啊 |
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這個 整個情況的共諜還在國防部裡面都有先例的軍人都有 就不知道怎麼去弄好 第二個問題我想請教一下這個關於日本首相這個是個 首相講的話說台灣有事日本自衛隊講什麼什麼我請教是不是用白話文講 就是台灣有事 日本會出兵 是不是可以這樣講 |
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我想高市首相是從日本的在面臨這個當中國以武力來這個使用武力來侵犯台灣的時候對於日本所產生的一個這樣的一個狀態的一個危險他做一個他們的基於首相他們在議會質詢的時候做一個說明 |
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那我就問你啊所以是可能涉及到他的說明據我們了解是說當中國以武力來進行的時候會涉及到這個這叫做什麼存亡存立存立危機的狀態 |
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沒有啦 我問你的是白話文講可不可以解讀說日本首相要告訴早苗說如果台灣被侵略日本要出兵可不可以這樣解讀我想就是簡單就這樣我想應該是這樣講就是說日本的認知到台海的安全局勢是攸關日本的安全 |
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那所以一旦台海發生任何的衝突他整個周邊國家的安全會受到非常大的威脅所以這個日本他要強調就是說他對於他們的這個 |
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應該講說純利為己的一個狀態已經可能可以構成了所以日本會根據這樣子的一個具體的事態來做相對應的因應你還是沒有回答問題就是他要不要出兵啦這件事情啦他發動他的部隊來幫幫台灣就有這個問題 |
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我想我沒有辦法幫忙日本的首相再回答進一步他只是在說明當這一個台海發生衝突而且是武力的一個衝突的狀況形象之下對日本產生的威脅到什麼程度好 那現在應該是要拿一個純利為己的一個狀態所以你還是不敢回答那你可以看他講這個話之後美國跟日本有軍事同盟美國沒有講話 |
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你不覺得有點奇怪嗎對不對 日本首相講這個話 高市長講這個話他的意思用百花紋講就是如果台灣被打了 危險到日本的安全 他們會出兵百花紋就這個意思那可是川普都沒講話耶 這很弔詭的每日有安全的同盟可是為什麼美國都不講話 |
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還有最後一個問題結果老公海警船巡邏要釣魚台 |
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這個我們的海軍有沒有角色扮演這第二點是我們的啊當然你會講說這是海巡署前面可是一般來講人家說海巡署在比如說靠近12海浬可是軍艦可以在24海浬比較遠一點的地方來這個來保護我們的海巡署這個你怎麼看我想兩點第一點剛剛委員問到美方沒有 |
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發言的這件事情我可能要說明一下其實美方的這個不管是國防部長或者是印太司令他們都一再的去說明整個印太區域的和平穩定是屬於美國的一個核心力這樣子的一個從他們要看到這一個整個區域的和平穩定那而且他們要協同各個這個 |
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區域的這些民主國家來共同達成一個集體嚇阻這樣子的一個政策我沒有看到改變也就是說他要求大家加強自我的防衛力量不是只有針對我們也包括對於可是日本都講了台灣有說他要出兵但是美國都沒有說他要出兵那拜登的政府拜登說有川普到現在為止沒有說他要出兵幫忙防衛台灣沒有 |
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對 但是我想委員的意思委員的問題應該就是說美國的態度他在這一件事情上面我是認為他還是以實力來尋求和平這樣的態度那是你解讀了好 你回答我剛才的問題就是要調一台的事情我們會有一個應變區的一個規劃那麼進入我們應變區的我們都會因應什麼意思 什麼叫應變區 |
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就是只要進入應變區的那如果是屬於中國的海警船我們就用海巡讓我們軍艦支援那如果是屬於軍艦進來我們的應變區我們就以軍艦來對應那現在我們的海巡署船沒有看到我想就要看有沒有進入我們的應變區如果有進入我們的應變區我們海巡就會對應那是多大 在幾海里 |
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我們的運變區的話是我想可能如果委員需要了解我們再私下再跟委員做一個說明 |