| IVOD_ID |
165571 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/165571 |
| 日期 |
2025-11-19 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
聯席會議-11-4-26,36-1 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第4會期社會福利及衛生環境、司法及法制委員會第1次聯席會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
4 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
1 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
聯席會議 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
26 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[1] |
36 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
社會福利及衛生環境委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[1] |
司法及法制委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第4會期社會福利及衛生環境、司法及法制委員會第1次聯席會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-11-19T09:53:33+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-11-19T10:03:07+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:09:34 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/9c5448532e3833d1823d15605e00b6a80799e8a58cec5c3e9ed37f72173c5d09e5f61c5647d20dc05ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
陳菁徽 |
| 委員發言時間 |
09:53:33 - 10:03:07 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-11-19T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第4會期社會福利及衛生環境、司法及法制委員會第1次聯席會議（事由：審查
一、委員葉元之等18人擬具「家庭暴力防治法第六十條條文修正草案」案。
二、委員王育敏等16人擬具「家庭暴力防治法部分條文修正草案」案。
三、委員邱鎮軍等18人擬具「家庭暴力防治法部分條文修正草案」案。
四、委員蘇清泉等18人擬具「家庭暴力防治法第三十一條條文修正草案」案。
五、委員廖先翔等22人擬具「家庭暴力防治法部分條文修正草案」案。
六、委員郭昱晴等17人擬具「家庭暴力防治法部分條文修正草案」案。
七、委員羅廷瑋等16人擬具「家庭暴力防治法第三十一條條文修正草案」案。
八、委員廖偉翔等16人擬具「家庭暴力防治法第三十一條條文修正草案」案。
【第八案如經復議，則不予審查】） |
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好 謝謝主席 我想請部長我請石部長部長好賴總統在16號的時候宣布說未來我們衛福部要成立新的兒家屬但我看了一大堆新聞新聞名稱現在是非常紛亂有的前面是兒童有的前面是兒少然後有的是家庭照顧屬有的是家庭支持屬你可以在這邊跟大家講 |
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證明一下到底未來還會叫什麼名字跟委員報告因為我們現在正式的這要涉及到那個組織法的修編所以我們還沒有正式送出到行政院的組織法的那個草案還沒有那當然目標的族群就是兒童但是兒童在醫學的定義18歲以下是兒童但是醫學是這樣 |
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但是按照我们的儿少法他分儿童跟少年所以12岁做切割点所以名词上到底是要用我们一般的这个通念还是法律的概念这个到时候我们都会在所以你的意思是说你现在只知道他叫儿家属对对象是OK的对象很清楚就是儿童18岁到18岁医学上的定义到18岁那后面有吗几家庭 |
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有有有家庭因為這個家庭的支持在兒童發展的過程當中家庭的支持所以你後面會叫家庭還是家庭支持家庭支持所以是兒童級家庭支持屬兒童級家庭支持屬或兒少級家庭支持屬你這個編制還沒送出去還沒有所以你被賴總統突襲了嘛 |
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沒有這不會這個是總統要回應到這個我們的民間民團大家的這個這個倡議那以及這個整個在國家希望工程裡面希望對於這個兒童更好的這個再來我想問一下你的預算因為之前我們都 |
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耳熟能詳的啦你說要用4年編135億來做兒童健康的照顧那這個是兒童這個部分嘛你家庭的部分你是要在另外編列預算嗎這個我們目前規劃上是把這個跟兒童相關的 |
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從他的這個托育那些也都是啊所以是把它整合在跟兒童相關的所以包含這個從胎兒時期的這個從胎兒時期那你有包括我們未來的話不是從這個你一直講產檢對對對對對所以你要把然後到他的發展到托育就是出生之後的托育所以你的意思是說你會把部分其他屬的業務 |
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對 會調整 會把現在本來在社家署社會及家庭署裡面有關於兒童服務役托育的部分我們會把它移到這個兒家署 托育 對另外也會把生產 不是生產就是這個兒童的發展 |
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早期疗愈那一块早疗的部分也会移进来那你的胚胎是什么意思因为我看到胚胎我会联想到孕产所以孕产的那一块要不要移动再进来我们会再讨论这个就是它从胚胎开始的所以那个我们会一并去 |
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去討論到底有沒有要移進來因為會涉及到我們好多個現行的單位的他的業務的移動那你為什麼要從胚胎開始講你為什麼不從出生開始講胚胎就是生命的開始我們現在 |
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希望保護的就是應該照顧的是從胚胎的時候就開始有一些政策因為這一個單位會包含到這個兒童的這個健康政策的研習所以我才問你有沒有包括孕產婦啊因為胚胎在孕產婦的身體裡面啊 |
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他可能还包含一些筛检的有一些筛检的政策你是说在产检的时候的筛检对对对产检有一些筛检你要把它移到儿家族这里来他是不一定我们是有一个叫做政策就是儿童的健康政策的规划单位那但是执行的时候会看到他的业务的整合性你的筛检是不是出生以后的筛检你应该不是只产检政策规划啦就是整个健康政策的规划要在这里面 |
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好 雖然聽的不是很理解但是等到你全部都公佈之後還有第二個問題就是說以往比如說我自己去考察一個機構一個學校或是一個托嬰 一個托育它有可能附屬在學校下面有可能附屬在某一個機關下面那長久大家就會覺得很奇怪你這個家 這個屬叫兒家屬 兒童照顧 |
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可是一般家長有時候都會覺得奇怪為什麼托育0到2歲是衛福部管2到6歲就變教育部負責那比如說發生了一個暴力事件或者是不當對待我們還要去區分它發生的場域在哪裡那再去找主責的機構其實這個就是長久以來的問題我不知道把兒家屬合併然後升級成一個三級的機構是不是可以解決以前很多跨部會的問題 |
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我想儿童的照顾本来或者是儿童的健康他的权益他涉及到跨部会他不会是只有通通在卫福部里头所以他确实是会涉及到跨部会所以你的意思是说但是我们把他的这个卫福部的窗口 |
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先統一在兒家署裡面然後再透過這個兒家署做跨部會之間的協調那你的編制大概會有多少人還要再細算現在目前在做業務調整之後就會細算你覺得至少你需要多少人 |
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這個在數的規模上有一定的組跟人數的這個規模一定會有那外界有一個誤解現在世界各國尤其是面臨少子化國安危機的國家他們都紛紛成立類似你這樣子名稱的單位不管是哪一個級別但是大部分級別都比我們高所以很多人誤會了覺得你這個是跟少子女化有相關的但是你是其實就是照顧兒童 |
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但你看我們現在的出生率是越來越慘今年可能11萬嘛那你的服務案量是會越來越少那難道你不會覺得擔心嗎你現在開了一個新的編制可是你未來服務的人是越來越少而你沒有一起加入成立做這個少子女化的相關政策 |
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在少子女化這個政策的這個應對方案的部分另外在行政院層級他也有這個相對應的計畫的行動計畫在推動那個就是很多跨部會的那我們這個在衛福部裡面主要是主責在兒童已經出生之後 |
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好 我知道沒關係 因為主席站起來了我是在幫你講話因為我也希望你以後業務是越來越繁榮嘛誰會希望你的業務量是越來越萎縮所以在這邊是想具體建議你如果遇到院長或者是總統 |
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你要不要建立他成立因為他現在總統府有三個委員會要不要成立第四個委員會是少子女化的對策委員會或者是一個國發會拉出來二級機關少子女化以及人口對策委員會你覺得你贊不贊成因為聽起來你就是一個兒童的窗口窗口但假使要解決一個專責單位啦就是兒童照護的專責單位 |
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那你請問你他整合了我們目前善待的業務因為主席站起來了我只是希望部長可不可以呼應你會不會希望院長或總統也可以希望有更高級別的跨部會整合不然你的業務量怎麼辦對我想這個少子女化這個問題現在在行政院層級就已經有在相對應的計畫有一個少子女的對策現在有啊但是沒有用啊它越來越低耶 |
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還有很多可以做得更好的地方也不斷的在精進所以你的意思是說只需要精進這個原本的計畫就可以擴展你服務的按量了目前已經有一些機制繼續去強化它你覺得會有效 |
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這個不斷的在調整那個對策上不斷的在調整所以你覺得靠現在的計畫就夠了沒有 未來還會有一個計畫會提出來現在正在所以你的意思是說你不認為需要成立更高級別了以目前我們所成立的這個是兒童的這個照護那還有個專責的單位來成立那我們是積極的朝這個方向來設立的 |
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就是一個這個兒童及家庭支持署我們是確定是朝這個方向來設好謝謝你好謝謝謝謝陳金輝委員發言接下來請 |