iVOD / 165561

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IVOD_ID 165561
IVOD_URL https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/165561
日期 2025-11-19
會議資料.會議代碼 委員會-11-4-19-11
會議資料.會議代碼:str 第11屆第4會期經濟委員會第11次全體委員會議
會議資料.屆 11
會議資料.會期 4
會議資料.會次 11
會議資料.種類 委員會
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會議資料.標題 第11屆第4會期經濟委員會第11次全體委員會議
影片種類 Clip
開始時間 2025-11-19T09:42:57+08:00
結束時間 2025-11-19T09:52:45+08:00
影片長度 00:09:48
支援功能[0] ai-transcript
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委員名稱 鄭天財Sra Kacaw
委員發言時間 09:42:57 - 09:52:45
會議時間 2025-11-19T09:00:00+08:00
會議名稱 立法院第11屆第4會期經濟委員會第11次全體委員會議(事由:邀請經濟部部長率台灣中油股份有限公司董事長及行政院公共工程委員會首長就「中油三接案第二期遭檢舉浮報工程款項爭議」進行報告,並備質詢。 【11月19日及20日二天一次會】)
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transcript.whisperx[0].text 接下來我們請鄭天才委員請做訊談稍微主席有請部長還有中油公司董事長好我們請兩位謝謝行政院公共工程委員會副主委
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transcript.whisperx[1].text 好 大家好好 辛苦了我們看這個今天中油公司的報告這個五項主體工程標案這個投資金額660億元108年9月16號奉行政院核定
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transcript.whisperx[4].text 好 這個整個新增三項的主體工程投資金額調整為965億元111年3月21日奉行政院核定當然你們是報上期核定核定增加305億元然後納入112年度預算書送立法院審議好 我們看這個接下來
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transcript.whisperx[5].text 你們特別強調委託國內知名的海事專業廠商台灣世襲工程顧問公司這個公司過去是中華顧問公司我所了解的常常會碰到他們的都是鐵路公路橋樑所以不要特別如果你Google我也Google海事
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transcript.whisperx[6].text 公司没有他们呢所以这个部分呢不要把它捧得那么高也请这个董事长请这个提供台湾世袭公司在这个案之前他们做过哪些海事的好不好我们给我参考说不定他真的是很有名至少我所知道的好
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transcript.whisperx[7].text 常常會碰到他們的都是在鐵路、橋樑、公路各方面包括以前中華公務公司的時候我有的是30年公務員也是常常碰到他們的好這是一個部分然後這個剛有提到了這個現在說請教公共工程委員會
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transcript.whisperx[8].text 當然要看他的標案他委託這個台灣世襲然後台灣世襲一起專業評估然後這個向國內的三家廠商懸架這是在公文工程的作業裡面是有這樣的程序是吧報告委員這個大概就是一般工程慣例大概都是這樣的一個程序在走
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transcript.whisperx[10].text 这个我要谈的就是说这个111年3月9号董事会中油公司董事会审议通过刚才有提到这个预算是112年度的预算董事长是不是
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transcript.whisperx[11].text 這個所需要增加的預算305億我們是把它編在103年到108年去分配113年到118年去分別納入進去預算編列是112年度增加的305億對啊112年度預算編列對 把它在112年的預算書裡面有去呈現你一直講113那又差了兩年了
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transcript.whisperx[12].text 一百一十二年度的预算都还没有审查就招标了就招标了111年7月29号结标所以这个预算又差得更远了所以这个部分这个都是一个表示中油的预算国营事业的预算那个是涉及到整体了
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transcript.whisperx[14].text 在111年跟112年我們核定的這個預算數呢針對這三項新增工程是不會去通知到這個預算不要再強辯了反正這個都是要檢討的啦
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transcript.whisperx[15].text 我也沒有說你一定有責任反正就是要檢討今天就是檢討112年度的預算按照立法院按照法律的規定是8月112年度的預算是在111年8月31號以前送到立法院行政院通常都是在8月中旬左右
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transcript.whisperx[17].text 結果很遺憾的在今年的11月10號望榮鄉明麗村跟鳳林鎮的長橋里又受到重大的災害這個就是一流點這個部長我其實我不知道你的想法我自己就很自責
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transcript.whisperx[19].text 這個鳳林三星也到了鳳林鎮這個高堤房那邊也去了我就想說大家都會有那個舒服啦我也認為我有舒服我沒有我本來也想去往望龍鄉那個就這個一流點的地方我想說那麼大的潰壩的時候9月20號那麼大的潰壩的時候都沒有怎麼樣這裡應該OK大概大家都這樣想
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transcript.whisperx[20].text 所以这个部分大家都要真的是要去要去非常非常的谨慎的前面的去检视好不好因为这里面时间的关系其实很重要的因为上面的源头
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transcript.whisperx[21].text 霸体还没有解决所以你现在是最重要的最重要的就是水利署经济部因为河床的疏浚堤防的修筑修固加高加固对就非常非常的重要然后以现在的那个霸体洗水量如果在台风的时候或者是地震的时候是不是就可以阻挡就不要一天到晚
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transcript.whisperx[22].text 一天到晚要撤离啊撤离啊小米也是很烦啊但是又为了安全啊所以你们现在是重中之重好不好好谢谢