| IVOD_ID |
165558 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/165558 |
| 日期 |
2025-11-19 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
聯席會議-11-4-20,15,19,23,26-1 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第4會期財政、內政、經濟、交通、社會福利及衛生環境委員會第1次聯席會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
4 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
1 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
聯席會議 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
20 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[1] |
15 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[2] |
19 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[3] |
23 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[4] |
26 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
財政委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[1] |
內政委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[2] |
經濟委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[3] |
交通委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[4] |
社會福利及衛生環境委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第4會期財政、內政、經濟、交通、社會福利及衛生環境委員會第1次聯席會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-11-19T09:35:09+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-11-19T09:42:59+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:07:50 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/9c5448532e3833d1bbfe8c187ff72e1a7119a7747a4c5c6cf2a9d4295e9d8f3a0630bd2d7ebc433a5ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
賴士葆 |
| 委員發言時間 |
09:35:09 - 09:42:59 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-11-19T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第4會期財政、內政、經濟、交通、社會福利及衛生環境委員會第1次聯席會議（事由：審查行政院函請審議「中央政府花蓮馬太鞍溪堰塞湖災後重建特別預算案」。
【預算提案截止時間：11月18日（二）下午3時】
【11月19日及20日二天一次會】） |
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我們謝謝主席 各位先進有請財政部長 主計長還有經濟部的賴常務次長還有衛福部的次長 |
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呂政府次長一起來我就不要 等一下不要浪費時間我也好好 幾位長官好這個你們昨天啊這哪一位回答我 處紀長是不是昨天中央政府找的地方是我們去開會嘛結果人家批評你們啦 |
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只有兩張的A4 然後什麼資料也沒有沒有基於計算的公式 沒有補助的金額 沒有分配的比例水平分配也統統沒有 什麼都沒有就說 突然你就換話 說喔 除了雙北市以外 更新市都支持 誇了鬼喔人家好幾個人打電話給我說 根本亂講一通啊你們在認知作戰喔 |
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來 你講報告委員 昨天重點在談市權的劃分那這裡面市權的劃分什麼資料都沒有啊給多少錢你沒有啊市權的劃分主要是包括不是啊 好啦我時間有限 你不要講重點好不好是是是 |
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我就問你有沒有計算公司計算公司是在台灣華裡面的所以我們昨天沒有在談第二個有沒有各縣市的分配比例比如說台北市要拿多少 有沒有 |
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我們是在談事權嘛不是在談分配的比率嘛所以事權我們是談一般性的補助還有計劃型的補助所以等於以114年度的一個一般性所以你昨天的開會就是談事權的架構和劃分這個花唬爛啦 這個東西啊欺世盜名啊 人家講得哇 好了不起啊那我就問你一個你們現在根據你們行政院版本有了嘛 對不對 有 |
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有齁 那到底要給地方政府統籌文備稅款多少錢要給多少錢來來來 財政部要給多少錢 現在 |
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跟委員報告 彩化法這個部分在明天會提報院會討論在院會通過後我們在記者會會做詳細的說明那剛剛您提到所謂水平分配的公式沒有揭露其實在我們10月21號的時候已經把水平分配的公式權重還有它的指標都已經說而這個指標也是歷經幾次會議以後縮小了 |
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中央跟地方是不是66比34我問你這個中央跟地方這個部分在明天的會議裡面會議做討論以後就會對外詳細說明跟委員報告中央統籌分配稅款的規模會比114年擴大那麼我們在這個垂直分配的部分全權會做合一的下放這個部分是可以跟委員做下放好 那我就問你具體的 |
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我們原來按照原來的是你們給地方4100多億按照你們新的版本是不是比這個還多跟委員報告在115年來算的話總體中將釋出的是一兆1683億除了中央統籌分配稅款有8874億還有一般性補助款跟計劃型補助款但是在我們的新的版本裡面會比這個 |
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我們這邊通過的這個我們預計我們的幅度不會比這個小我們的規模不會比一兆一千六百來的小沒有沒有沒有我沒有聽得懂一兆一千是全部的是不是是全部的就是統籌加一般加補助統籌加一般加計劃型補助款那就明年度比這個還多我們會比這個也就這個因為這個一兆一千多是根據去年底通過的財劃法那我就問你 |
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那那個統籌分配稅款是不是維持4100多還是比這個還多這個部分我們明天院會會做討論那院會會記者會會跟各位報告那這個部分呢其實我們會有考量到就是說中央統籌分配稅款裡面要除了錢的下放之外也就剛剛主席講說的事權也要做調整那事權做調整就屬於地方自治的事項你回答我嘛 你一直沒回答我說 |
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有沒有增加嘛 有沒有比4000多億增加嘛這個4100多億其實當時我們在規劃 |
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國民黨團這個版本其實是沒有經過這個相關的事權的調整而就直接這樣定了我們那個當時認為就是一個不合理的狀況所以也就是說你4100多億你還是承認啊我沒有說是維持4100多億就比這個還多我們會做合一的規劃這個還是不講就對了來第二個問題那個 |
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我那個資料啊那個嘉樂園啊 到底誰管的嘉樂園誰管的委員好 這個載具啊這是嘉樂園市面上買得到的什麼標示都沒有 沒有CMS 什麼都沒有在裡面有這個東西 |
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343.488 |
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369.512 |
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這個是假的 這也不是真的所以然後呢 裡面的電池是中國大陸的電池就現在市面上買得到的加熱煙他沒有CMS 什麼標示都沒有我去查了半天經濟部 到底是經濟部還是財政部還是衛福部前往衛福部說是經濟部 財政部說是他沒有在管然後衛福部說是經濟部 到底誰管經濟部長官不要講一下 |
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372.069 |
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375.813 |
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經濟部長官這個載具啊載具啊是不是你管的 |
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380.494 |
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402.385 |
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這個沒有在我們應實施商品檢驗的這個部分的話就不是我們但依照這個衛福部他針對開加熱菸的這個他有相關的一個規範標示的規範衛福部長官衛福部是你們管的嗎我們主要是負責有關標示的部分他外面沒有標示啊 |
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403.939 |
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427.559 |
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都沒有標示啊 這個在市面上都買得到啊這是你們管的 還是經濟部管的衛福部是負責標示的部分沒錯你們管標示 經濟部管載具你們要功能負責啊 到現在市面上就買到這個什麼標示都沒有結果一問大家踢啤酒經濟部踢給財政部 財政部踢給衛福部衛福部踢給經濟部 |
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431.448 |
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444.217 |
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我們是不是我做一個建議來答應好不好你對於加熱煙的相關的管理這個載具的管理 |
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445.475 |
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452.18 |
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一個禮拜內給我報告可以嗎你們三個單位共同負責一個單位給我可以吧因為這個載具是經濟部管的所以經濟部負責統籌就聯繫那個財政部還有那個衛福部一起來好不好 請經濟部主管謝謝謝委員請就一個禮拜之內提出書面的一個報告好 謝謝賴司法委員 |