| IVOD_ID |
165554 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/165554 |
| 日期 |
2025-11-19 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
聯席會議-11-4-20,15,19,23,26-1 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第4會期財政、內政、經濟、交通、社會福利及衛生環境委員會第1次聯席會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
4 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
1 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
聯席會議 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
20 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[1] |
15 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[2] |
19 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[3] |
23 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[4] |
26 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
財政委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[1] |
內政委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[2] |
經濟委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[3] |
交通委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[4] |
社會福利及衛生環境委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第4會期財政、內政、經濟、交通、社會福利及衛生環境委員會第1次聯席會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-11-19T09:29:05+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-11-19T09:34:58+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:05:53 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/9c5448532e3833d1ec5fdafd2f47b1e57119a7747a4c5c6cf2a9d4295e9d8f3aeb97dbb4eb1fdcfb5ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
吳秉叡 |
| 委員發言時間 |
09:29:05 - 09:34:58 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-11-19T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第4會期財政、內政、經濟、交通、社會福利及衛生環境委員會第1次聯席會議（事由：審查行政院函請審議「中央政府花蓮馬太鞍溪堰塞湖災後重建特別預算案」。
【預算提案截止時間：11月18日（二）下午3時】
【11月19日及20日二天一次會】） |
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主席請陳主席長請主席長委員好主委長早這一次的這個特別條例啊馬太安溪的這個驗射壺這個特別條例有沒有包括鳳凰颱風之後又產生另外一個新的驗射壺有啦齁那有沒有包括 |
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遺留之後對明麗村所造成的那個光復鄉明麗村所造成這個損害有沒有包括這個部分有有齁好那我再繼續往下問有沒有包括鳳凰颱風蘇澳淹水還有宜蘭的災情沒有那一樣是明麗颱風花蓮的就有對宜蘭蘇澳的就沒有這樣不會很怪嗎 |
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跟委員說明那這一次是針對馬太安災後的這個復建主要是在馬太安溪左右兩岸及花蓮溪水系至於此次鳳凰颱風對於宜蘭特別是蘇澳地區的這個治水的工作那行政院已經折成水利署 |
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我們經濟部也要求水利署在未來的四年一千億的預算裡面來加強這個地方的黃紅措施的改善工作這裡面包括蘇澳分紅工程 |
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對花蓮的救災我當然全力支持但是宜蘭這邊的速度也不能比較慢你把它放在後面的一千億這樣子宜蘭人會不會覺得說它的速度沒有特別條例會比較慢會不會有這種感覺不會 第一個蘇澳分洪從112年奉行這位合定之後113 114年 |
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經濟部水利署都分別編列預算在今年九月通過預算的徵收而水利署也同時在這個預算的徵收的過程去做基本設計我們會同步來並行這個工作四澳分紅的工程水利署除了透過這一項措施之外對於發包策略的部分也會加強還敢辦那除此之外市區裡面那個賴市長你是一個很有能力而且你從水利署長出身嘛所以我覺得你的講法我可以接受那你請回座我繼續請教處長 |
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上一次那個台南那一個颱風是不是有特別條例是那個多少錢600600通過了嗎通過600億那邊然後這一次這個270加30有可能300億對這樣就900了900那900這是特別條例嗎 |
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那特別要條例的這些預算雖然不受預算法限制但是有沒有受舉債總額的限制有沒有受這個一年不能夠超過你的預算規模15%的舉債上限這個限制都沒有期間有受流量限制啦 |
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209.483 |
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那這個上個禮拜本院又在藍白多數的表決之下印給你通過這個新的他們這個新的這個才化法的這個修正又要規定你計劃型補助跟這個跟那個跟一般性補助都不可以比以前少所以卓院長有講說這樣又要增加2600多億 |
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2646億2646億那在之前因為上一個版本他已經從你這邊財化法已經拿走4000多億4165億那這樣就兩個加起來是多少5455億總共是多少 |
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總共增加4165億這個部分一般性補助和計劃性補助要維持5455億這個部分我們必須要增加2646億這個部分我們是沒有辦法負擔 |
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這樣子加起來有沒有超過那個預算法規定不可以超過你的那個預算的15%的上限超過一千多億那另一個法律叫你要違法那這樣要怎麼處理啊 |
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但是有一個方法你可以作帳啊你就虛胖啊你就把你的總預算灌水啊把那個舉借幾千億全部都加進來那這樣灌水虛胖之後後面債務給後面的人背啊你這樣就不會違反預算法舉債失誤發上線這種事情我們不能做 |
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310.971 |
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有啊 很多地方政府都在做這樣的事情啊不然左也違法 右也違法 那你要怎麼辦是 所以這個部分我們必須要整個要循救濟的程序來救濟啦怎麼樣救濟的程序是 這個部分我們大概應該是第一個是要視線嘛 複製啦複製我們也會複製複製不會過啦複製只要我們多麻煩的多表決一次而已哪一次複製複製的時候連討論都不跟你討論欸 |
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319.255 |
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是 那我們也會要求四限啦四限到法官會議現在被停擺了 四什麼限 |
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351.079 |
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所以你要有做一個心理準備今年的總預算不會省啊就算延到1月31號也不會省啊我們還是希望委員能夠支持啊因為預算裡面我當然支持啊問題是我是少數我在立法院我是少數黨啊我是跟你講說你要心理準備根本就不會省啊省了也沒用 省了也違法嘛你們也沒有辦法執行嘛是不是這樣心理要準備好是OK好 謝謝 |
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352.81 |
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353.091 |
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好 謝謝奧比努委員 |