| IVOD_ID |
165545 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/165545 |
| 日期 |
2025-11-18 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
院會-11-4-9 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第4會期第9次會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
4 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
9 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
院會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第4會期第9次會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-11-18T09:58:01+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-11-18T10:29:04+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:31:03 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/15ce70573aea8c15ddbef669eadb9d2902704d746941b0373da5479e855bb6ad6e51ee5f22fc1dfe5ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
傅崐萁 |
| 委員發言時間 |
09:58:01 - 10:29:04 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-11-18T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
第11屆第4會期第9次會議（事由：一、討論事項：本院民進黨黨團，針對第11屆第1會期第9次會議報告事項第33案委員丁學忠等19人擬具「公立學校教職員退休資遣撫卹條例第三十七條條文修正草案」院會所作之決定提出復議。是否有當？請公決案等16案。二、行政院院長、主計長、財政部部長、行政院公共工程委員會主任委員及相關部會首長列席報告「中央政府花蓮馬太鞍溪堰塞湖災後重建特別預算案」編製經過並備質詢（11月18日上午）。三、對行政院院長施政報告繼續質詢（11月18日下午）。四、11月14日上午9時至10時為國是論壇時間。） |
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好 院長早好 早麻煩請卓榮泰卓院長麻煩再請卓院長備詢林委員長 副委員長院長早這一次馬太安溪夜色湖的不幸事件我們非常的遺憾 |
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首先要感謝全國有這麼多的愛心的人士來給災區各種協助跟幫忙不只是捐錢捐物資也把自己的時間能夠空出來來到花蓮前前後後近百萬人來到花蓮產資超人也好醫護人員也好 |
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還是我們怪手超人 卡車超人有這麼多全國人的愛心能夠來支援災區我們深表感謝但這一次的傷痛我們必須很清楚地講誠如林益君委員剛剛說的過去在就教於卓院長的時候農業部的時候你們都說沒有這麼嚴重 |
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短短幾個月發生這麼慘重的事情我們在這裡不只要深刻的檢討而且要花這麼多人民的血汗錢來做災後重建政府的疏失卻有這麼嚴重的一個後果我們不希望這樣的悲劇再發生我們先看一段影片 |
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泥水大道沖走一整個貨櫃這是昨晚8點多名利部落民眾拍下的驚險畫面鳳凰颱風雨勢驚人花蓮馬太安溪再度一流滾滾洪流夾帶大量砂石沿著大排灌進萬榮鄉名利村太誇張了 太誇張了 |
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雲林部落居民致函太誇張因為不定時的一波波泥水從10號晚間就開始昨天早上也出現沖走汽車民宅也遭這個破口從7月份到昨天一流我多少次的通報會刊那時候紀連城也特別交代結果還是沒有動作水利署長到場會刊村長多次的通報無效 |
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經濟部依然是老大心態對於人民不斷的陳情從去年的康瑞颱風就表示馬太恩西的兩個開口題要補起來到這一次名利村的村長一再的表達有破口要補講了多次都沒有補所以 |
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整個政府失靈整個怠惰造成這麼嚴重的一個問題我想院長我們如果在事前本席今天講的話請院長一定要聽進去不要常常用政黨的立場想事情我們先用人民的立場想事情 |
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如果我們可以之前就妥善的處理驗收今天不會有這麼慘重的損失過去五年經濟部如果有把馬太安西輸菌中央管河川如果有輸菌今天河床不會這麼高 |
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你認同嗎過去十年已經有247萬方有疏軍本席再請教院長院長你認同嗎過去不是五年過去更長的時間對馬太安溪的疏軍中央管河川政府都一直在做這一次剛剛委員所說的破口破堤不是那名利村那個是堤防的末端是從來沒有堤防的地方 |
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事前也加強了沙包的工程過去五年中央管河川馬太安溪水利署有輸進嗎剛剛部長已經說明了有還是沒有就這麼簡單嗎有247萬方公里過去十年過去十年請資料提供出來好 可以本席從來沒有看過這樣的一個資料而且在9月23日之前發生之前247萬方 |
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還是地方政府請求來紓進的還是縣政府請求來紓進的因為中央不紓進花蓮縣政府請求核專局准予紓進報告委員這一次的洪水是超過了百萬四倍以上本席只是問你有沒有紓進不用講這麼多針對本席問題回答就好 |
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不要顧左右講其他不要浪費全民的時間本席問的問題都很簡單院長你又被蒙在鼓裡過去幾年的輸進經濟部都沒有做而是地方政府來請求核酸局讓地方政府來輸進你回去好好看看看好資料過去幾年真的中央政府都沒有輸進嗎馬太西 |
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過去三年四年五年你回去看一下本席還會再見到你這個會期不要急不要在這裡事實只有一個該怎麼講就講清楚比較好7月26號發現驗收如果有早一點 |
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做好所有的相對應應措施今天不會有這麼慘痛的傷害那立法院也在最短的時間通過了三百億的災後重建條例但是我們對現在編列的方式我們有非常多的意見非常多的意見我們簡單來講我們這次看到補助給人民的 |
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補助給人民的在這300億裡面受災戶的補助總共雲林匯國土署產發署 中汽署 公路局總共12.85億另外還有一個 |
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農業的受災補助5.73億立法院給了行政院300億總共加起來直接補助人民18.58億我們再看看丹納斯颱風丹納斯颱風600億直接救助人民153.63億佔25% |
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馬太安西不幸事件補助18.58%18.58億才佔6%丹納斯是天災政府補助四分之一馬太安西不幸事件是人禍只補助6%其他都是公部門在做過去沒有做好的事情現在在補救 |
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我們給你這麼多的預算你現在送到立法院270億另外30億還要做談訊應用本席現在就嚴正的跟院長表達不管是在台灣的雲嘉南還是在台灣的花東都是中華民國國民我們補助的方式不能差距這麼大同不同意 |
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委員應該知道原因啊第一點馬太安溪這邊還有14億的善款委員剛剛都感謝過 你都把它忘記了第二點丹納斯颱風雲嘉南地區受災的民眾高達6萬戶左右馬太安溪這邊受災的民眾大概是3000戶左右好 那本席請教一下雲嘉南這次的丹納斯在條例審查的時候我們都支持 |
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包括嘉義台南的立委說到光一甲的溫室要八九百萬政府才補助一個五十萬沒有辦法不付成本要他建造成本的八成補助我們都支持我們都支持現在 |
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雲嘉南沒有在丹納斯颱風當中有汽車的損壞那是強風這次花蓮一個小小的一個區域光復我們有增加一千多台我們有增加一千多台車那都是他們的生財器具所以增加了汽機車的補助生財器具你們補助10% 8% 6% |
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為什麼雲嘉南的鄉親需要的時候80%我們支持因為那邊主要是農損那邊主要是生財積聚的損壞兩邊的情況不一樣但是都是災害造成的應該用一定同樣的標準來看待災民不管是十幾億的善款也好 |
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我們給了您三百億對人民的救助就算十幾億加上去對不起十幾億加上去那是多少不到十個百分點 |
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而這邊是25%丹納斯颱風所以本期對於你們所提出的內容這個我剛剛說明過了雲嘉南有6萬戶受災丹納斯3000戶受災內容現在不是人數的多寡但是你在講的是金額的多寡現在是要用同理心你只要金錢的多寡就牽扯到人數要用同理心來看待災難無損我們要支持對所有因為水災家裡淹了一兩米高 |
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所有插電的東西全部壞掉所有汽車全部壞掉 |
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所以菸社會的補助每一戶達到35萬每一戶達到35萬這也是過去沒有的例子我們願意多補助也應該多補助本期現在講的是生財器具應該要一視同仁生財器具應該是要一視同仁農業部對農損的賠償也是一致的經濟部對商家企業也是一致的 |
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總院長在立法院我們會再行調整本席先讓你了解要用同理心來看所有的災民不管是台灣哪一次的傷口哪一次的傷害對人民的協助應該是以自信的再過來這一次所提出的行政院的這個版本本席有認真的拜讀過現在希望院長要記得一個事情 |
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因為這個重建的過程可能超過四年五年甚至可能六年漫天的封殺當中有這麼多的居民在那裡萬人加上所有工作人員裡面應該要編列這五年六年當中每一年要給這些居民做固定的健康檢查 |
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每一天居住在這種漫天的工地封殺當中人民的健康應該要守護院長同不同意屬於地方知識事項的部分請地方政府來執行該中央處理的部分中央會處理這是地方災情中央已經立法院國會已經通過了重建的條例人民在這個範圍裡面人民在這個範圍裡面 |
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沒有關係 院長若不認同 立法院會來處理再請教 9月23號 晏色湖第一次災難11月11號 第二次災難11月11號 當天發現晏色湖 當天通報當天疏散 |
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請問一下院長,光復的鄉親還要過多久這樣的生活?顏色湖什麼時候可以解決?是,顏色湖目前我們監測到它的溢流都是很正常第二個,它目前是五萬立方,所以對於下游沒有造成立即的危險 |
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所以現在我們行政院的內閣就是用這樣的腦袋在看事所以你們一直很科學啊科學到業人社會整個崩下來啊不是一流嗎當天就潰壩啊本席再請教一次過去不管是921還是88風災 |
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兩次的驗射壺921南投草嶺的驗射壺八八風災高雄旗山的驗射壺當時的政府都把問題解決了請問一下左院長民進黨政府對於馬太興驗射壺這樣的問題什麼時候能夠解決給人民一個時間不然只要有風有雨8000多人要撤離 |
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我們不斷的重複這樣的劇情嗎對人民公平嗎政府失能還是失靈 |
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這次馬太安溪驗射壺的量體有多大大體有多長委員你是清楚的跟過去不可同日而語甚至在九月我還邀請委員到中央災害應變中心你當場也看過當時我們跟大家說的十月驗射壺就有可能自然的溢流出來所以任何當時的作為包括委員所說的就把它炸掉那個都不可行其他的方式時間上也來不及在十月份之前都不能處理好 |
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可不可行過去都運用過也都有成功固然卓院長認為不可詐不可詐的原因是什麼不只我認為從來沒有說過我相信你也不是專家所以不只我認為但是你有沒有請世界各國的專家來來處理葉勝武後續的問題有沒有 |
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國內的專家已經告訴我們國內的專家就告訴你不行嘛 你要相信啊沒有辦法嘛 我們相信的結果相信國父變成這個樣子 就是相信政府的結果你不要輕視國內的專家對啊 這就是民進黨的層次啊左內閣的水平就是這樣 拜席你請教你第三次 會不會有第三次 |
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後面有第三次 已經兩次了馬太安西的南岸我們加強了光復鄉的這個提案你不敢回答本達的問題 |
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大自然的力量你敢回說還會有地震嗎我誰都不敢講但是我們人為可以做的加強提案 加強各種疏散撤離各種演練都是必要的所以現在就是左內閣的政府之下人民要永遠的有風有雨八千億萬人就要撤離這就是不要亂戴帽子現在的左內閣不要亂戴帽子 |
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還有1億多立方公尺的土石在那裡不是你們講的5萬立方多少 50萬立方還有1億立方的石在那裡委員大概沒聽過我們會在上面開設便道去到霸頂吧委員大概不知道有這個狀況吧我們會想辦法開設便道去到霸頂有狀況的時候就會有住民的方式 |
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其實有個東西你們可以去了解一下就是您剛才說國內很多的專家都針對這個部分有一些看法但是全世界很多各種不同地形搞不好現在艷澀湖它所形成的這個地形已經非過往的一種經驗所以或許我們可以國內外的專家都來做一些資訊現在跟九月跟十月截然不同因為它已經往下升所以多問應該也沒有太 |
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多問應該可以有機會解決問題所以不管是國內或國外只要能夠解決問題它就是一種方式然後第二個部分就是也因為這個驗色糊的問題沒辦法解決所以經常有感覺很老民的這樣一個 |
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疏通人民的一個狀況那院長 你知道我們一移動一個人移動已經很累了然後幾千人常常在移動我想這也不是一個長久之計我想是不是您在這個專家的部分我相信國內的專家很專業或許是原民的一些過往都在這個空間 |
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生活的人也是你們可以諮詢的一個對象因為我相信很多的齊老他們過去可能有碰過不同的狀況所以你們在徵詢所謂專家的同時在地的專業的人員或者是齊老你們也可以徵詢看看更何況現在全世界都有許多不同的災害或許國外也有一些跟我們地形很相近的狀況產生所以 |
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諮詢一下國外的專家我們重點就是能夠把就是一句話所以日本的專家也送來水位監測儀他們認為加強監測是現在應該馬上要做的工作要不要召開國際的會議把國際的專家都請來來共同商討 |
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日本的專家已經送來水位監測儀他認為現在加強監測是現在最必須要做的所以當然這個部分是有全世界現在只有日本這個國家沒有其他國家專家是嗎我說一你要說二我說二你要說三這種質詢毫無道理啊這個不用再問了他的態度你很清楚草菅人命本席在這裡 |
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要讓你看一下什麼叫同理心你讓瓜夫鄉的鄉民有風就要撤 有雨就要撤家到底在哪裡家到底在哪裡一個心中沒有人民的院長你看一看你的總統怎麼講的我們看一下賴總統怎麼感謝教師節的連續三天假期 |
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這個就是賴總統在講臺灣人民的愛心我們可以再三感謝產值超人我們請財政部部長麻煩請財政部長備詢農業部請回 |
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請問一下部長三天來了十幾萬人在教師節連假賴總統講的您有聽到嗎有聽到再過來不只923之後有教師節連假還有中秋節連假還有國慶連假一個教師節連假來了十幾萬人請問一下一個中餐 |
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一百塊錢一個便當請問中餐要多少錢我想這個算數問題我們用一百塊乘以十幾萬人就可以得到是多少是多少部長財政部部長請教當然是超過千萬是一千多萬那中餐一千多萬一個便當晚餐要不要吃 |
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大人有三餐中餐晚餐這三天就兩千多萬對不對還有教師節連假中秋節連假跟國慶連假 總共三個大連假所以本席只是跟卓院長確認一下這麼多愛心人士來到花陵我們當然餐食的供應是最基本的 |
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餐食供應應該是這麼大的災害是由中央來處理還是地方來處理很多熱心的藝主團都紛紛進到花蓮本席是請教您是應該中央來處理還是地方來處理這麼大的災難地方是地主對於救災的工作中央會全力來協助你說是地方要來處理我們也同意地方來處理 |
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三天便當前就兩千多萬總共三個連假另外還有二十多天 總共三十多天總共花連縣政府花了四千零二十三萬我們感謝這麼多的議組團幫忙所以地方政府只花了四千零二十三萬其他都是議組團來幫忙 |
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還有整個災區的周圍全部都是內政部的保警跟國軍的憲兵在維持交通您知不知道國軍在維持災區的交通跟內政部在維護保警因為地方還有各鄉鎮治安所以中央支援的保警 |
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來整個災區控管交通因為裡面塞爆有沒有一組團的東西要進來進不來有沒有這個我們中央協調所都有把它納入應該注意的事項所以中央協調所有注意這個是該進來都會進來對不對好謝謝所以應該都沒有被擋在外面都進來 |
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但是事實上是有被擋在外面這個原因當時也是非常...詢問之後有放進來了對不對那不是我們有能力去阻擋的不是有沒有能力去阻擋因為國軍的憲兵在那裡跟內政部的保錦在那裡謝謝 我想... |
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立法院會對這一次的災後重建條例不合理的部分我們會做出一些調整跟回應因應災民的需求我們會做好相關的準備接下來我要請教一下因為我不太清楚昨天卓院長說要對 |
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這個立法院全面迎戰我不曉得您是要跟國人迎戰還是要跟誰迎戰本席不了解但是我們看一下一個對照表114年跟115年我們兩年預算的編列明年統籌分配款 |
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1589.105 |
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明年統籌費配款明年多了4167億給地方政府地方政府一般性補助款被你苛扣了1300億計畫型補助從今年的2954億明年減編了2600多億只剩308億所以明年實際上財務法修正以後 |
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行政院撥給地方多出來的4100億從一般性補助扣了1300億計畫性補助扣了2646億是給地方220億這個卓院長一直說我們毀線亂政220億我們禮拜五的修法也不過是把你苛扣地方的 |
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一般性補助款1300億還給地方政府因為這是關係到全民的包括老人照護包括教育包括地方的基礎建設這都是最基本照顧地方人民的事項 |
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包括營養午餐 社福 療 醫療 老人照護 教育等等所以本席在這裡明正的正告總統派院長區區的221個地方在這裡不斷的造謠 造謠造謠 當現在已經成了卓院長了 |
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已經是最常講的所有不實的謠言本席跟立法院通過的禮拜五通過的一般性補助款還給地方只是很卑微總共給地方多220億太少是不是 |
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雖然你的數字我認為有誤啦就照委員所說的如果委員認為給地方多220億太少那你為什麼不會覺得中央給你少掉4000多億會太多呢賴清德怎麼講的來聽一下聲音聲音 |
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聲音要解決不公平跟不公義唯有修改才化法否則話即便樵覆也然也無米之炊台北看天下不顧地方的生死啊若不是來說引後一個扶植日本總統都不應該把關閉到在那次發電的這個法律方放在那一邊都不必去管啊一天只說一些有的沒的我認為這是不應該的為國內的發電大家來倒下手要求他們趕快在那邊提案也好 要求也好這個才化法 公債法趕快通過 |
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所以我要請教一下卓院長你要全面開戰是跟人民開戰還是跟賴清德市長開戰還是賴清德主席開戰還是賴清德總統開戰卓院長立法院通過的都是民進黨大聲疾呼賴清德大聲疾呼十幾年 二十年現在立法院的修法就是修財務法我能不能講一句話就好 |
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2012年所有地方政府的稅計剩餘是負的500多億去年 今年是正的800多億地方政府已經好轉了你拿2012年賴市長的話來今天講請問卓院長去年超收多少錢前年超收多少錢四年超收一兆8700億你不會執政 |
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就請你下來請你不要跟賴清德總統宣戰不要跟全民宣戰請你要把民進黨對人民的承諾要好好的執行我才必須備戰賴清德宣戰謝謝謝謝時間已到謝謝謝謝傅坤祺委員林建基委員質詢謝謝謝謝左院長相關部會首長備詢深呼吸 喝口水 |