| IVOD_ID |
165542 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/165542 |
| 日期 |
2025-11-18 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
院會-11-4-9 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第4會期第9次會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
4 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
9 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
院會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第4會期第9次會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-11-18T15:32:15+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-11-18T15:48:13+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:15:58 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/15ce70573aea8c15c7316fe59192bc8102704d746941b03703a347d547cf20ed2b4aab974ddd87285ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
陳超明 |
| 委員發言時間 |
15:32:15 - 15:48:13 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-11-18T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
第11屆第4會期第9次會議（事由：一、討論事項：本院民進黨黨團，針對第11屆第1會期第9次會議報告事項第33案委員丁學忠等19人擬具「公立學校教職員退休資遣撫卹條例第三十七條條文修正草案」院會所作之決定提出復議。是否有當？請公決案等16案。二、行政院院長、主計長、財政部部長、行政院公共工程委員會主任委員及相關部會首長列席報告「中央政府花蓮馬太鞍溪堰塞湖災後重建特別預算案」編製經過並備質詢（11月18日上午）。三、對行政院院長施政報告繼續質詢（11月18日下午）。四、11月14日上午9時至10時為國是論壇時間。） |
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接下來我們請陳超明委員質詢嚴寬衡委員請準備主席院長好首先有請卓院長跟我們速發部我們的林部長麻煩請卓院長速發部備詢 |
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謝謝陳委員好左院長林部長好首先這一張文章部長你看到應該感到很高興這篇文章你看我仔細的讀仔細的看你每一個內容AI可以說是 |
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AI的新十大建設可以說是我們行政院最重要的一個政策那你裡面談到非常重要的一個觀點你說要把AVI的數位化變成一種產品 |
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另外一種專案但是你在這篇文章為什麼很多軟體界的時候都說這篇文章要好好讀一定要跟院長跟部長簽譽我們做Plus就是模組化的產品說這樣子我們的軟體才能真正的賺錢另外如果你做那個 |
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專案的話 等於我們客製化的話只能在台灣這邊流通 競爭的要死好壞不曉得 又要常常的修改經濟部也把AI的軟體當為非常重要但是你這篇文章算很深入 總理長你也找對人但是要怎麼做 你下去研究 |
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因為AI的軟體跟一般的軟體不一樣它是要深度學習整個一套的連環作業在但是你這樣悄悄的把你惹怒你就覺得很懷疑但是很多人軟體業都不曉得你這個做的產品模子化的產品要如何做很多人不曉得 |
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所以希望你在這邊加強一下下文章是很好 很實用但是你推進的方式沒有一個明確的密碼希望在這一方面加強是 謝謝委員我們這一方面簡單喔 我只有15分鐘啊 |
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簡單的講我們要把它做成產品化不管是需求方或者供應方雙方都要改進需求方必須做出很明確的產品然後有明確的價格就是我們看是每個帳號多少錢或者是使用量多少錢然後他必須做產品的方式一定要告訴這些軟體業者讓他們了解還有一點特別注意 |
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你應該跟產業界的結合因為AI的軟體以後是用在機器人上面自我學習看過了以後會照著人類的行為在做這點加強因為以後的伺服器那些都變成一個非常競爭的市場 |
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軟體是永久的 台灣的軟體落後經濟部也在談這個 國會也在談這個 世衛部也在談這個那個一定要把它整合起來 不然我們經常錯過的事是 那我們政府作為採購方 我們必須調整可以的 因為我要問的問題太多了這一點我領導人請教好好的發揮 |
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詳細再寫一篇文章 再讓國人都了解未來怎麼做法 |
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我們的陳部長 陳委員長 你們兩個都寫得很嚴重我現在說 請院長跟部長延續對苗栗的善意讓苗栗大步發展向前我今天做了很多 譬如西湖西河提講過或是苗栗造橋交流道那我第一 第一次開始整理到第三次完成你們來動工典禮 |
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但是啊 我今天要老實講 卓院長跟陳部長 我看你們的眼頭今天都跟我說的事情都說好 搞不好我現在都沒有結果我覺得很無力啊我當時十一屆的立委到現在兩年多 |
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我本來抱著期望很高但是你們到現在都沒有做到最好來來來 我一條一條跟你說我不是跟你說 我是知道的人我都說知道的第一條 苗栗高鐵站值得再增搬 電解地方鄉親 |
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跟遊客 我們現在一點鐘一班 兩點鐘兩班但是我們的遊客的那個旅客的數量在2024年已經達到120萬了我只能拜託 不然我怕我帶到後面說你這個旅費不夠我們連安的環境 我懸 額外懸 卑賤的請求 |
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兩個小時增加到三班不可以像大陸企鋪的歐盟半點前鋪一班這樣不合理啦我們要你現在進步保庭院長能不能支持這個 |
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高鐵它就是一個高速運輸的一個功能它要增班或是停靠都必須有專業的考量那這個部分我認為地方如果有需求交通部一定會責成高鐵公司能夠去考量到地方的需求但是它整個的運量速度跟它的整個服務的品質還是要考量在內對啦 放到保留一點點一般來談就夠了所以我現在說這樣 |
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兩點鐘 三班 幾班 這樣你們有沒有困難好 我拜託 給我建築我跟高鐵說 說沒問題但是你交通部不怎麼贊成啊您的建議 應該就是看這個需求量那我也會找高鐵公司來討論一下就是以這個需求量來看因為他們也是要考量到速度那您再建議的就是兩個小時的版本來跟他們建議好不好 一定嘛 |
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不然我等一下給你額外但是前幾天啊我說政社院裡交流到新增南北之路閘道我這樣不配你你看那個表我從一百零七年開始到現在一百一四年典禮時間你講去一定會幫助我完成那上個月我要接到你們公務 |
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是啊 交通部又跟我打回票 你這人沒高意識你知道 你雞腿 你知道 苗栗就非常重要這一條連絡道路以前設計錯誤 你給我答應好都沒了 |
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請部長來說明一下我有到現場看過那個地方我也熟悉因為它是跟台中市交界的地方那現在不是退回現在是希望說地方再補一些比較具體的文件例如說因為那個地方比較特殊啦地點在台中市地點在台中市但是那個預算苗栗有答應要出這個要更具體一點我第一期我終期完成現在在動工 |
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現在第二次 我想說這個有一個糾體可能經費這麼多 安生這個你省了以後我才推這個那先讓我兩個一起推但是你那個交流道一定要完成交流道的部分我們請提防再把他這個把那個文件補齊就好你下去 到彥嶺 比我還受歡迎還是你跟安東 還是跟安東 我不知道你跟我們答應都沒有跟我們做 我跟你說 要跟你批評 |
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要不要完成這個 這個很重要我們把該補齊的文件補齊就可以了那是你們本命期你們拿票最大的地方我只是全力而為 不分黨派因為這個對院理政非常重要一定 保證今天給我答應不然我今天不下執行 |
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這個執行台喔謝謝委員 因為你把歐陸稅還提供在市府會上這件事他有答應嗎你只要那些工人打回票的時候 我就這樣頭紅瓶白的好不好不是文件啦 不是打回票一定會完成的齁 今年給我核定啦我們馬上補了 而且我也開完會了他們會全力去補再來 |
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台72線銜接台61線西濱公路打通我們在苗栗的交通路網我問他一定報告你是看我們苗栗的人還是沒有什麼我們台灣所謂的72線就是東西巷都總有12條東西巷快速道路只有苗栗關沒有跟西濱台61線跟那個 |
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國道3號連接這條起來我們就比較有聯絡網但是在溝通彼此有那個我已經親自又指示了大家全力支持這個方案由苗栗縣政府 縣議會 政工所全部都來支持你們還要反對所以我們在反對這個應該是地方民眾的意見對路線的選擇還在協調當中交通部應該有在努力這個事情 |
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我們苗流是很可憐我們在這困難 但是我們都盡量在做啦這條還要我加一條啊你們已經合訂了 可惜就是我現在說什麼路線不一樣你們就不來做 再討論啦 政府長說明一下 |
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跟委員報告 這個您也有參與協調啦地方對於路線的選擇還有一些意見那縣政府已經來拜會公路局了針對路線的部分大家有共識之後我們會再辦第二次的地方說明會你第二次做團會來召開絕對路線啦吼 無異議大家都會參討阿你這個不用請我交通一下請委員幫忙啦 請委員幫忙才能達成一致齁 這個來我們就給予我們 |
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交通是建設之母 蓋營發電啦 好不好陳部長 卓院長 兩個人都這樣沿途 你們也給我們拜託不要再求人廟了 你要做一些成績請委員幫忙 讓地方的意見一致那交通部跟地方政府合作就好處理再來台13線 銅鑼道3億託款這條工規 你們要做 我希望趕快啦 |
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好不好 你都有去喔你都覺得要做喔都覺得苗栗的建設很可憐 經費比較少有爭議的那一段我們先不做後面沒有爭議 相信同意的那一段我們來做總統跟你提拔車交通部長很難得好好在苗栗發揮你們有機會啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[30].start |
690.586 |
| transcript.whisperx[30].end |
695.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[30].text |
海線鐵路三軌化我跟妳講妳現在看地圖現在三軌化有兩個地方三個地方沒有 潭雲到大山 |
| transcript.whisperx[31].start |
711.483 |
| transcript.whisperx[31].end |
730.712 |
| transcript.whisperx[31].text |
還有巴西屯到新埔還有通宵到彥嶺這個經費差不多六十幾億七十億左右我講十年我那時候聽你們那些南部、中部說你們的捷運系統都幾百億在那裡這六七十億你們都不敢把這一條線打通雙規劃的話聽到嗎是你看你們這樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[32].start |
740.071 |
| transcript.whisperx[32].end |
758.743 |
| transcript.whisperx[32].text |
很不重視苗栗縣你這幾十年我講話鼓召院長你要有魄力把這個完成起來我給你敬禮謝謝啊委員你剛剛所說的部長都點頭了他點頭他塞字啊我一上任他都點頭到現在我都沒有看到成績啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[33].start |
759.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[33].end |
777.729 |
| transcript.whisperx[33].text |
我們非常重視 因為未來苗栗 桃竹苗大溪谷建設起來是一個台灣的引擎 進步的引擎所以我們先把這個交通基礎要建設好大溪谷計畫你要全力支持我還有問幾個問題 到現在還有一兩個問題還沒有解決 我希望一定 |
| transcript.whisperx[34].start |
778.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[34].end |
803.672 |
| transcript.whisperx[34].text |
我親自邀請你來吃客家菜我給你報告實際的情形讓你來替我們解決我看你們不斷在講推三指四的沒有在氣氛 沒有在沾燈好不好這一點我一定要拜託再來合體公共 這個鄉鎮很小是我把它完成了一個藍燭白日的 |
| transcript.whisperx[35].start |
805.375 |
| transcript.whisperx[35].end |
820.657 |
| transcript.whisperx[35].text |
這個鄉鎮七千人但是五年前才有超商在這一邊但是這個地方很漂亮你把這個河堤供過第四期還有這個西湖區被日蘭吃的砸到這一邊 |
| transcript.whisperx[36].start |
822.086 |
| transcript.whisperx[36].end |
845.308 |
| transcript.whisperx[36].text |
可能施工會比較困難但是我想這樣的技術能克服這個票數雖然少但是他們很熱忱我覺得要幫忙這個西湖鄉鎮把這個完成起來就是非對他們地方服務地方的繁榮發展很重要你來走一走你就知道很好的地方但是 |
| transcript.whisperx[37].start |
846.229 |
| transcript.whisperx[37].end |
873.542 |
| transcript.whisperx[37].text |
什麼公路經過 高速鐵路 高鐵經過高速公路經過 他們那邊都沒有交流道只有休息站幫給債務 這個地方繁榮發展沒有啊所以你們看的商票往大都市的地方走要寫存償名票少 但是人很熱忱地方很尊心的時候 我們就要把它扣 |
| transcript.whisperx[38].start |
875.851 |
| transcript.whisperx[38].end |
904.242 |
| transcript.whisperx[38].text |
好 你要來看嘛 可能說的你不太知道 你不去啦這個我都已經立案了 我已經開了三次會跟你們一起協調了 會刊了三次我這在地 我都親身去腳踏實地 去勘察 去做決定希望你們能夠支持一下因為時間要到了 我這樣說一下再來 通宵生命產業 通宵職工同路科學 |
| transcript.whisperx[39].start |
905.081 |
| transcript.whisperx[39].end |
917.502 |
| transcript.whisperx[39].text |
昨天台電中油大概有去了解了這個狀況到時候你趕快協助幫忙因為這個地方人口一直在流失這個很重要再來Royalbike怎麼樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[40].start |
919.485 |
| transcript.whisperx[40].end |
942.997 |
| transcript.whisperx[40].text |
臺中的跟表列的聯合界的地方你說要全力支持報告委員現在在台鐵的董事會那邊的程序正在進行已經在了好 謝謝你這串聯起來是禮物最多的地方總院長 交通部還有今天所有官員你們去做一趟你們才曉得臺灣人怎樣利用這個本來你們不要的東西把這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[41].start |
953.766 |
| transcript.whisperx[41].end |
955.475 |
| transcript.whisperx[41].text |
好 謝謝謝謝陳昌明委員的指示 |