| IVOD_ID |
165476 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/165476 |
| 日期 |
2025-11-14 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
院會-11-4-9 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第4會期第9次會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
4 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
9 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
院會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第4會期第9次會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-11-14T17:11:26+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-11-14T17:14:41+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:03:15 |
| 支援功能[0] |
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| video_url |
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| 委員名稱 |
鍾佳濱 |
| 委員發言時間 |
17:11:26 - 17:14:41 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-11-14T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
第11屆第4會期第9次會議(事由:一、對行政院院長施政報告繼續質詢。二、11月14日上午9時至10時為國是論壇時間。三、11月18日下午2時15分至2時30分為處理臨時提案時間。) |
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主席在場路言先進我們今天在討論的是對風景區是不是要進行環境影響評估如果是的話那麼就在環境影響評估法裡面來修訂那目前有沒有呢有的就在環境影響評估法第五條風景區裡面的開發行為就要進行環評那為什麼要在發展觀光條例裡面去訂定呢 |
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大家知不知道發展觀光條例是為了什麼而存在它是為了發展觀光而存在但是發展觀光這些進入的油氣的人潮會不會相對的對這些觀光資源造成了破壞以至於它不能永續經營這當然要予以規範 |
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所以發展觀光條例當中它就對於觀光資源的保育跟永續它去做了一些規定主要是針對油氣的行為譬如說旅客的數量住宿的容量這些就像你要去墾丁國家公園我們的觀光資源是梅花路太多人去會造成這梅花路被打擾所以規範的是什麼 |
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規範的是油氣的行為而非土地的開發行為所以我們要很清楚的去理解發展觀光條例的對象客體是屬於油氣行為本身必須加以管理但是不是像光電板這種所謂的開發行為固定的設施不是發展觀光條例所要作用的對象 |
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所以剛剛又說過了民眾黨的修法呢剛剛說是選台氣的修法看到了現在電視台在播什麼新聞他就去找出跟他相關的法令看到了水庫光電水庫位於風景區所以風景區的光電要進行環評如果要這樣子其實環境影響評估法裡面就寫啊 |
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就風景需要進行環評的規定啊那為什麼不在環評法去規定要來發展觀光條例去規定呢所以我們在這裡一而再再而三的說這樣的條文的內容方向我們支持放入環境獎評估法跟它底下的認定標準但不要搞錯方向放到了發展觀光條例來再度強調一次發展觀光條例基於保護觀光資源永續發展 |
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他强调的是对于油气的行为进行总量的管制过夜的人数进入到风景区里面的人数的总量管制那么你不去管这些你去管风景区里面的水库还是什么地方有没有光电板很好 |
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回到環境影響評估法來列管所以我們再度的要來很遺憾的這樣的條文內容本質上是可以放在環評法的但是當你放在發展觀光條例裡面就會讓交通部覺得到底你這樣的法的作用目的跟我們限制管理油氣人數有什麼關聯請三思不要搞錯修法的對象 |
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好 谢谢 |