| IVOD_ID |
165439 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/165439 |
| 日期 |
2025-11-13 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-4-20-8 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第4會期財政委員會第8次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
4 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
8 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
20 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
財政委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第4會期財政委員會第8次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-11-13T12:27:32+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-11-13T12:39:26+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:11:54 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/fffa2c65c610facee199febc8defd45efa47f864c5dfb45a0834c22697b3aa2a6a72962f41d473255ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
羅明才 |
| 委員發言時間 |
12:27:32 - 12:39:26 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-11-13T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第4會期財政委員會第8次全體委員會議（事由：一、邀請財政部莊部長翠雲、行政院主計總處陳主計長淑姿、中央銀行副總裁、國家發展委員會葉主任委員俊顯、經濟部次長、勞動部次長、衛生福利部次長就「經濟成長讓全民共享：政府如何縮短所得差距暨改善相對貧窮化之對策」進行專題報告，並備質詢。
二、審查本院民進黨黨團擬具「財政收支劃分法第十六條之一未分配款運用暫行條例草案」案。） |
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財政部莊部長總署陳主席長央行原副總裁國家發展委員會也一起來一下經濟部何次長勞動部李次長衛福部呂次長好 那請莊部長陳主席長原副總裁何次長 李次長 呂次長 |
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今天這個議題非常非常的重要經濟成長讓全民共享政府如何縮短所得差距及改善相對貧窮化之對策我們每個人在這邊其實責任重大第一個問題就是普發現金大家都領到了沒 |
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開始領了那今年的稅收繼續超增明年的經濟成長率主席長多少今年是比較好一點今年多少現在目前我們初估是4.5左右但是我們還要再修正大概差不多將近6 去年6 |
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六到七啊趨近六啦趨近六所以今年的表現非常的亮麗可以看到啦今年雖說還是繼續超增的那就會衍生很多問題接著我問第二個問題那你明年的經濟成長率你預計是多少 |
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預計是2.81因為今年基金高了你是2.81嘛事實上你低估了有很多的研究數據報告大概可以成長6繼續持續的成長有賴各部會大家要多認真一點為什麼因為現在AI的時代已經來臨了經濟部 |
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你們第一線你們最清楚現在整個全世界川普總統都在推AI他現在全世界已經到處到處募集了幾兆美元準備要到美國投資 |
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目前他陸陸續續 陸陸續續大概大概一兩兆美元左右你錢幣不知道在哪裡他已經獲得了全世界包括日本很多國家18兆的美元其實繼續在成長那我請問一個最簡單的問題他收了20兆的美元以後他投資美國對台灣有沒有影響 |
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當然會有影響影響什麼 哪個產業當然我們的自動訊半導體產業我們的台積電半導體相關AI周邊大概45間這個以後都是台灣變成是AI的重症所以你剛剛講說2%多你看著辦好了明年你編是這樣編可是明年經濟成長率可能要6%以上 |
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所以這些經濟的成長成果你要給全民 繞回來這個議題部長 經濟持續在成長可是台灣的貧富懸殊越來越大富者越富 貧者越貧集中就是在好在半導體以及AI相關還有這些生物科技方面 |
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可能ICT的產業可能會比較好這些會集聚的好其他的傳產的部分是產的一大糊塗包括央行一直打房的房地產現在越來越差所以其中這些好的部分我們要怎麼樣來看待未來就是要持續 |
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把好的經濟成果照顧需要照顧的剛剛講的孤苦的老人莫忘世上苦人多很多很多的小老百姓一樣需要這一萬塊所以部長 總部長 |
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今年如果稅收持續反正就是稅收超增你講稅季剩餘也可以如果今年的稅收持續超增今年要不要普發現金我還沒講完 |
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我在這裡預告明年如果造成的情況明年台灣的經濟成長率還是會持續成長經濟會還是會大爆發可是產業各方面持續嚴重失衡 |
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中層低層還是需要你的這一萬塊本席主張只要稅收繼續超徵那持續普發現金要變成常態化部長能不能做得到 |
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跟委員報告 沒有所謂的稅收超增是時增數超過預算數 那至於什麼原因我們大概已經講過很多次反正意思一樣 就是稅收超增所以我們會在預算數的編列的時候錢就多出來了那今年也稅收超增 明年我預計也會持續超增 |
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你要不要還稅於民啊照顧人民啊其實不是還稅於民的概念最重要的精神就是普發現金讓人民有感你不要客氣你之前都講說怎麼樣什麼自愛難行還有什麼違憲什麼講一大堆那個大家聽不進去了那請問今年發了沒 |
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現在正在執行正在發了喔那我告訴你發你就大方一點不要遮遮掩掩川普準備要發每個人兩千塊美金啊你知道為什麼 |
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因為社會基層苦哈哈的人一大堆啦主計長以前一個雞腿便當70塊現在一個雞腿便當多少錢130好130 漲那麼多那妳的那個薪資啊 漲了多少今天漲多少差不多百分之九吧 |
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給你調百分之十啊便當已經漲了百分之百了你漲百分之十 那個杯水車薪嘛所以 勞動部現在基本薪資 明年會不會再調漲啊我們已經確定 院長已經核定明年會調漲到兩萬九千五百塊月薪 兩萬多兩萬九千五 兩萬九千五 OK那漲幅是幾% |
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過去十年來累計基本工資月薪已經累計調高了47%你不要算十年啦去年跟今年比的話漲幾%將近4%去年跟今年咧去年跟今年漲10%4%去年跟今年比漲4%可是我們的便當錢已經漲90%啦那差了80%你要不要補給我們 |
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不知道委員講那個便當90%調漲是以哪一個來算舉例啦 舉例剛剛主席長不是講給你聽嗎我現在要跟你們70塊的基本便當也是好幾年前我要跟你們這些官員講的是說社會一直在改變 |
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所有的基層小老百姓壓力是很大不管房子漲 不管物價漲他沒有一個希望所以我們政府能做的就是所以說超徵你趕快來給這些需要的人再來講一些孤獨的老人孤老死的這誰負責 衛福部 |
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現在孤獨老人 台灣有多少包委員 我們現在目前的估計應該全台灣大概有70萬70萬 明年會不會更多按照我們現在目前高齡人口5%的成長當然是會增加好 你講得很好 那我請教你再過5年的台灣是什麼樣的光景 |
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包圍我們現在 孤老的部分有多少包圍因為我們現在目前的那個現在是19.64嘛對 按照現在那個國發會的那個統計呢我們現在會到24然後現在接下來到2050預計會到大概4343是多少人口要讓我一半嗎 |
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所以現在台灣面對的問題因為大家都常常講政治我比較不喜歡講那個我們拉回來講現實面遇到這些問題台灣怎麼辦所以央行你要把市場做大把餅做大比如說 |
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本席所提的保險法146條之事你就把它對海外的那個比例條件一半就會回來13兆嘛13兆留在台灣投資不是很好嗎央行對外匯的這些錢回來的態度是怎麼樣另外一個很重要新加坡沒有移政稅泰國沒有移政稅杜拜沒有移政稅莊部長 |
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本席準備提一個國家的十年競爭方案其中有一項就是移政稅要調降到10%你贊不贊成央行的態度是怎麼樣 請說明 |
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疑政稅其實就有世代公平的部分那當然委員說您要提一個十年的方案那我們來拜讀可以啦我來提希望你也準備一下方案不要說沒對策什麼的趕快提出來這個都是扶國立民的讓台灣脫胎換骨讓台灣站得住你看連揮打現在都在落戶在台灣我們要對台灣有信心 |
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要好好把市場做大 把餅做大來 央行現在一些錢 匯錢匯進來你們都擋來擋去你們真的是自由化嗎 |
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那個委員我覺得您的問題好像不是很明確因為我們的外匯已經自由化我們還是有一些管理那些管理我們也會隨著時空環境做調整所以我不覺得說我們有真的在擋人家擋人家一定是不符合我們的規定好 你不擋我們就說一聲謝謝了那你現在外匯存底是六千多億美元嘛好 六千多億那這些 |
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676.338 |
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外匯存底啊你有百分之幾要拿來做主權基金我們沒有要就是說這個案子是國發會在主導沒有 行政院行政院那邊已經跟你講了啊你大概拿多少比例要出來做主權基金我講這個這個我們沒有討論到央行的外匯存底到底是怎麼去比率是怎樣我們 我至少我不知道所以副總裁還不知道你回去問總裁啊 |
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677.755 |
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691.641 |
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我想我們在這邊已經講過我們要用有償支付的方式大概是外匯存底的百分之多少要拿來當作主權基金抱歉 因為目前我們也沒有討論到這個議題你回去問總裁有來跟我講一下訊息好不好再回應我們委員謝謝羅委員接下來我們請邱志維委員 |
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713.992 |
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714.681 |
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谢谢大家 |