| IVOD_ID |
165429 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/165429 |
| 日期 |
2025-11-13 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-4-23-6 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第4會期交通委員會第6次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
4 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
6 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
23 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
交通委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第4會期交通委員會第6次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-11-13T11:30:31+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-11-13T11:39:06+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:08:35 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/fffa2c65c610face91c98c0daac4462463fe2012470c75420834c22697b3aa2aa7eba39b12b3691e5ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
謝龍介 |
| 委員發言時間 |
11:30:31 - 11:39:06 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-11-13T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第4會期交通委員會第6次全體委員會議（事由：邀請行政院公共工程委員會主任委員陳金德列席報告業務概況，並備質詢。） |
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非常好 剛才廖委員在說 主委辛苦了國防的採訪我們都支持 放寬發電為了台灣可以有減水艇 大家都支持但不能說我們大家都支持 就把這個 |
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不發 到包裝 核心 到探戶都包在裡面 臨摹不裝都可以運用 這不可能如果沒有問題 老總統在當選他就不會說前進國造要發展了就是有發生一些問題我們是說要怎麼去理性 面對你專業是希望你怎麼用專業退一套 |
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要發動法律 也要付出代價嘛 對嗎希望台灣臨晚要改變 |
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需要力量跟太陽能的發電但是不可以因為需要力量跟太陽能的發電這樣就能溫泉過太高級了是不是這樣這是大家真理性來看待這問題主委我請教你我們說的那天委員會是不是有一個叫做拆槓新手的心理委員會這個有啦這個委員會的功能是什麼 |
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包括申訴跟禮約爭議調解管理很大申訴跟禮約爭議調解管理很大 因為我對工程結構有了解過去我整理了什麼因為這個條件出來的結論比較像機關如果不同意對方就可以去申請仲裁 |
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一般全台灣所有的政策 還有的官司 政府差不多3%就是1%說最好選擇的政策 政策差不多超過十八九年以前機關付出的代價會更大所以在你們這個裡面 其實是很重要啦他的改水跟過程的結論啦 會影響阿伯輸贏 大概在這裡 |
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判定了啦 如果來行的在這看到這個結論處理去調查的時候就差不多知道勝負多少了我請問你喔 這個委員會裡面有一個姓孔的委員主委你不瞭解我知道 你如果 你講孔嘛我們有一個孔帆起律師啦是是是 |
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他是一個律師啦 但是當然律師接什麼案件不管了 他也要接政府的 也有去接一方的兩邊他都有委託 這是律師的權益 但是他也是你的委員就對了但是在這個委員會裡面 他就變成是法律上受權的公務員他就是這個委員啦 |
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所以本會就變成可以來關心因為我記得有我們會立委有跟主委請教過就是說他覺得有食人的問題但是你以前的回答就是說沒問題嘛主委你以前有說過 |
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報告委員孔律師我從來不認識他我知道啦不是啦不是你的問題我是跟委員說明他以前接的甲方的案件公務局啦高工局替政府機關訴訟的最多所以他做很多因為就是說聘人沒問題嘛沒有問題你會說你沒問題嘛經濟我了解就是說 |
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你們這個委員會大概就是每個禮拜五開會嘛那是大會那是大會嘛 啊大會之前呢如果有這個問題 分給這個有心會嘛就是看是申訴還是有心會大概就是一個專業的 一個法律的啊原則上就大概這樣嘛 |
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大家都是委員,他還在想委託,如果來搞這個無心肺大我們兩個像我們兩個現在這樣在這裡有在活動,臨港肺大,只有我們兩個你認為這樣會受到影響嗎?會受到這個台肺國際的影響嗎? |
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我想這個是律師職業過程裡面經常會面臨的問題譬如說律師也很多在各個機關的這個書院委員會等等都會有案件個案要利益迴避的問題所以原則上只要是從事這個行業的大概不應該說我跟他認識或怎麼樣不用去解說背景啦 就是說工作要避嫌嘛 |
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群組派遣就說 譬如說他在你們裡面你現在把他引來 我也覺得很奇怪如果這樣就表示他接案來做委員就裁判檢選手了嘛這就是說 我的意思是說不是針對個人 就是針對同案我們尽量群組派遣嘛因為公共鋼鐵委員會是一個洞見觀察大家都覺得是信任人 所以就對你們來嘛 |
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所以他現在 依我的理解就是說他只要他有擔任過他代理案件的機構和廠商他都會迴避 他會全案件都迴避你今年啦 今年的價位他已經是做委員了他有收到一間應責公司的委託要向公共工廠申請調解之後呢 公共工廠會做出建議之後我們做出來之後 我們待會做完 |
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結果呢這個人不同意誰不同意這個親情的他就說他不同意你現在聽我說不同意的理由是當然就是他寫的 |
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他說你們工廠會的調解建議是片面採納他這董事員的意見並不足由你申請人的部分 若不可能 若不符合申請人對公共工廠委員會的期待所以這就是他思考 我覺得他是你們的委員他現在對他的董事員 對你們提出抨擊主委 我覺得這樣 你會受傷 |
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報告委員 這個申訴調解像我們代表會也有調解委員會那這個禮業爭議的調解有的案件蠻大的那這個調解很專業我們不可能讓所有的律師都不參與調解委員會就是他該避 該迴避的迴避他要自我 |
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之後他寫出來的結論是來評價你的委員會做出來就是他受理案件的立場來寫他的這個這樣就會變成角色矛盾啦我的意思是說在公共工程委員會裡面應該盡量撇免這種角色矛盾啦 |
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你這個角色矛盾就會讓一般外界所有的人 我要來給你選擇的人變成說 你們就求完兼裁判 還可以做裁判現在做求完 再來說裁判都不對主委你有沒有給他處理 有沒有調整 我認為希望這個個案以外 其他大家因為我相信會做到律師 會做到委員 本身都有主律的紀律的功能 |
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主委你看 有需要 我今天這樣跟你講 你可以接受嗎我想要保持這個 要公正一定是絕對的價值那個案裡面 我們來解釋有沒有適當的部分 |